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 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 7:32 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)


Are the "Bonus" hidden tracks from the first releases still on these discs? I ask mostly as Someone has asked if they can have my orginal Giacchino discs if the music is all on the box set.


Personally I'd prefer it without the bonus, at least on disc 1....

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   James Goldstein   (Member)

Yeah, I'm with you guys; I'm really tired of having to stretch my money over all these releases, for which I really want in my collection, but have difficulty because the prices are often elevated due to a second disc. We go from asking everyone why every piece of chronological music needs to be present, to let's not only give them every piece of music, but also the other album we already have--and just to raise the price on a prolific composer and/or product. I understand the labels need a profit--I really do. And I hope the jerks out there don't break out the whips in mere defense of their friends. I'm just being honest from a customer point of view. Not only are we hit with 3 (expensive) releases in one day, but also FSM and Kritzerland just released great stuff, too. I'm telling you guys--the market will crumble under this kind of weight.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Well it was sort of a given that we'd see this form of First Knight considering the past expansions we got of popular scores with the same Film Score (disc 1) and Album/Bonus Tracks (Disc 2) presentation and same $30 price. I'm just not sure I like First Knight enough to warrant the price.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 8:34 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

Yeah, I'm with you guys; I'm really tired of having to stretch my money over all these releases

Do you have to buy everything that is being released?

Just because something is being made available or that there's a risk of a release going out of print does not mean you need to buy it.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 8:35 AM   
 By:   James Goldstein   (Member)

Well it was sort of a given that we'd see this form of First Knight considering the past expansions we got of popular scores with the same Film Score (disc 1) and Album/Bonus Tracks (Disc 2) presentation and same $30 price. I'm just not sure I like First Knight enough to warrant the price.

To be honest, with buying the MOH set and the DC, I'm going to have to contemplate letting First Knight go, too--the price being the reason only. It's just too much for one collector to bear... intelligently anyway. I know some folks around here are always claiming to have to max out their credit cards for these things, but sorry, that's just stupid. I'm not rich, but have a family to support, and I'm not going to sit in debt for a CD. I mean, if it's not for releasing so much in a single day, I could maybe--maybe--justify the 30 dollars, but when I think how I'm paying ten extra bucks for a few alternates not even in the film, that's crazy. And it happens too much. Thing is, I can make the 1995 album in iTunes. Why do I need a third copy of the music?

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 8:37 AM   
 By:   Maleficio   (Member)

And it happens too much. Thing is, I can make the 1995 album in iTunes. Why do I need a third copy of the music?

Because you can't recreate the album from the complete score. That's why it's included.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 9:01 AM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)


 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 9:19 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Why do I need a third copy of the music?

Why do you need to bitch in every thread you post in? You have the right to an informed opinion (which you've yet to demonstrate by my memory) and have the privilege of stating it here.

Work on the first one before you start with the second.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   jfallon   (Member)

Crying poverty is getting so old around here. Just sayin.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Crying poverty is getting so old around here. Just sayin.

Amen to that, brother.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 9:40 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

I fully understand that some people do not have sufficiant disposable income right now to buy all the releases they would like. However the solution is simple, just stop buying stuff. There is no point in moan ing at the labels for releasing their product..

We all have a choice. Buy it or don't buy it just don't keep moaning about it.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 9:44 AM   
 By:   James Goldstein   (Member)

I fully understand that some people do not have sufficiant disposable income right now to buy all the releases they would like. However the solution is simple, just stop buying stuff. There is no point in moan ing at the labels for releasing their product..

We all have a choice. But it or don't buy it just don't keep moaning about it.


I think it's bad business to release so many on a single day for any given label. Why have people--with limited funds, which is almost everyone--face a situation where they are having to choose between your products. Ideally, you want to sell all three to the customer, so why not sell them in a more spaced out manner? If you ask me, it's why LLL has so many titles sitting around unsold. They group too many at one time.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 9:51 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

If you ask me

I think thats the problem right there. No one asked you. And LLL certainly wouldn't have asked you to actively smear campaign their annoucement thread with your weirdo internet conspiracy think-speak.

Some of us appreciate what they do and anyone else can cram it, hard and deep.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

Ideally, you want to sell all three to the customer, so why not sell them in a more spaced out manner? If you ask me, it's why LLL has so many titles sitting around unsold. They group too many at one time.

On the other hand, when these things are released one at a time, many around here start to ask how long they'll be around, because they want to group their orders together to save on shipping. So the opposite is sometimes true.

There is no one consumer. You're entitled to your opinion. Just don't imagine it to be the one true opinion.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   James Goldstein   (Member)

If you ask me

I think thats the problem right there. No one asked you. And LLL certainly wouldn't have asked you to actively smear campaign their annoucement thread with your weirdo internet conspiracy think-speak.

Some of us appreciate what they do and anyone else can cram it, hard and deep.


Forgive me for not kissing everyone's asses. I like LLL, and their releases. I just don't like particular aspects of the market lately. Quit trying to suggest that I'm attacking them. I'm not. I'm attacking a particular subject. It should be met with equally explained, construed responses, not hatred for me having brought it up, or to be told in a single sentence to stop whining about being broke. I'm not broke, I'm just careful with my spending.

Perhaps next time I bring up these things--things that even the labels, including Mr. Kimmel himself brings up--I'll be sure to first add everyone to Facebook, suck shit out of their asses for about a year, THEN I'll be prepared to pose my concerns without being attacked by the circle jerk.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 10:03 AM   
 By:   James Goldstein   (Member)

Ideally, you want to sell all three to the customer, so why not sell them in a more spaced out manner? If you ask me, it's why LLL has so many titles sitting around unsold. They group too many at one time.

On the other hand, when these things are released one at a time, many around here start to ask how long they'll be around, because they want to group their orders together to save on shipping. So the opposite is sometimes true.

There is no one consumer. You're entitled to your opinion. Just don't imagine it to be the one true opinion.


Thanks for at least replying more intelligently. That's all I want. A decent back and forth, handling important topics.

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 10:04 AM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

A little note about First Knight if you are familiar with the score (or not):

Jerry Goldsmith played "musical chairs" with track titles when the original album was produced, taking some of his cue titles and applying them to different music for the album. For contractual reasons, those titles had to be retained for the album presentation, but it was not possible to apply the same titles to the corresponding music on the disc 1 full score presentation because that would have created a situation where previously unreleased tracks had their titles taken away! So disc 1, the full score, has all of the original manuscript and cue sheet titles, even though some of those same titles on the original album are for different music. It's an odd "east is east and west is west" situation. Jeff Bond's notes explain the assembly of the original album and what cues the tracks on it are called on the full score.

Mike

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   orbital   (Member)

Ideally, you want to sell all three to the customer, so why not sell them in a more spaced out manner? If you ask me, it's why LLL has so many titles sitting around unsold.

Where is the practical difference (customer-wise) between "a more spaced out manner" and "sitting around unsold"?

 
 Posted:   Apr 12, 2011 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

A little note about First Knight if you are familiar with the score (or not):

Jerry Goldsmith played "musical chairs" with track titles when the original album was produced, taking some of his cue titles and applying them to different music for the album. For contractual reasons, those titles had to be retained for the album presentation, but it was not possible to apply the same titles to the corresponding music on the disc 1 full score presentation because that would have created a situation where previously unreleased tracks had their titles taken away! So disc 1, the full score, has all of the original manuscript and cue sheet titles, even though some of those same titles on the original album are for different music. It's an odd "east is east and west is west" situation. Jeff Bond's notes explain the assembly of the original album and what cues the tracks on it are called on the full score.

Mike




Thanks for the info Mike!

 
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