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 Posted:   Oct 10, 2017 - 6:01 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)


But that's exactly what I meant… the new sets allow us to have everything of these scores for which there were a lot of variations, but most importantly gives us the context for it all.


Yes! I agree. I was really thankful that the liner notes actually talk about each bonus track and how they are different from their disc 1 counterpart. Fewer and fewer specialty label liner notes are doing so these days!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2017 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   JohnnyRoastbeef   (Member)


That clarifies my question about the different takes! (Great spreadsheet BTW Jason, very comprehensive!) I have one question about The Departure. Is the disc 1 version the same as the LP version, or are all 3 versions of The Departure at the very least subtly different from one another? I know you probably have it spelled out in your spreadsheet, but my mind is kind of reeling from the complexity of it!

Thanks in advance to the folks in the know!


11M4/12M1R The Departure has two points with notable differences:

1) The "Ouch" scene {approx 3:11-3:28}, which Williams originally wrote one way using the main theme (which is how he performs the cue in concert), but was replaced in the film with the "Steven's Fix" insert (the really extra-syrupy string passage).

2) The "I'll be right here" scene {approx 4:38-4:40}, for which he recorded a horn overlay (basically two extra blasts) that Steven decided not to use in the film after all, keeping the cue as it was originally recorded there.

So all the various released versions over the years have had various combinations of using or not using those two later-made recordings:

the actual film: YES Steven's Fix Insert, NO horn overlay
OST LP: YES Steven's Fix Insert, YES horn overlay
1996 CD: NO Steven's Fix Insert, NO horn overlay
2002 CD: NO Steven's Fix Insert, NO horn overlay
LLL CD 1 track 22: YES Steven's Fix Insert, NO horn overlay
LLL CD 2 track 19: NO Steven's Fix Insert, YES horn overlay


TL;DR: The disc 1 version is actually what is heard in the film, so uses the Steven's Fix Insert but not the horn overlay; the OST LP version always had the Steven's Fix Insert as well as the horn overlay; the Disc 2 bonus track Alternate version is everything that is opposite of the film version, so has the original passage as JW recorded it instead of the Steven's Fix insert, and includes the horn overlay commissioned for the film that went unused there.


Wow, okay, I see. Thank's so much for the analysis Jason. It's nice to have someone as dedicated to comprehensiveness as I am (when it comes to Williams) who is able to put together nice resources like this spreadsheet that really lays everything out so well.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2017 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

You're welcome and thanks for the kind words!

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2017 - 2:21 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

I always thought "Steven's Fix" (aka "the really extra-syrupy string passage") was one of the highlights of the original album.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2017 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Oh I prefer it over the original passage for sure, and its finally perfectly edited into the original cue on the LLL CD 1 now, as opposed to the somewhat clunky analog edit from the original LP and film.

 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2017 - 5:43 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Oh I prefer it over the original passage for sure, and its finally perfectly edited into the original cue on the LLL CD 1 now, as opposed to the somewhat clunky analog edit from the original LP and film.

Having recently revisited a lot of Williams' original album arrangements, and in particular having just reconstructed the Superman double LP with Blue Box sources, I have to say I am a bit surprised at how jarring some of the cuts are on many of his album edits.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 10:09 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Yea, the technology just didn't exist for smooth edits back in the day

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 10:44 AM   
 By:   Saul Pincus   (Member)

Yea, the technology just didn't exist for smooth edits back in the day

That's kind of a generalization. If you mean physical tape or mag film cutting, then there were restrictions – but also tricks, like using alcohol to erase mag oxide, resulting in accurate, repeatable short fades. The best mixers could manage magic even in realtime simply by flying faders.

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 11:07 AM   
 By:   Shaun Rutherford   (Member)

Oh I prefer it over the original passage for sure, and its finally perfectly edited into the original cue on the LLL CD 1 now, as opposed to the somewhat clunky analog edit from the original LP and film.

Having recently revisited a lot of Williams' original album arrangements, and in particular having just reconstructed the Superman double LP with Blue Box sources, I have to say I am a bit surprised at how jarring some of the cuts are on many of his album edits.


Is THIS what you were doing while other people were taking over the Custom Covers thread??

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)


Is ET PHONE HOME (ost lp) the scene in the forest when he tries to send the signal and/or gets sick?
What is the 2002 equivalent/


No. The scene in the forest where ET sends the signal home is 7M2/8M1 E.T.'s Machine, which was not on the original OST at all and was titled "Sending the Signal" on the 1996, 2002, and LLL CDs.

"ET Phone Home" on the OST LP is 10M2 E.T. Phones Home, which was titled "E.T. Is Alive!" on the 1996 CD and "E.T. Is Alive" on the 2002 and LLL CDs. That's the cue for him coming back to life after "dying" just before the finale.


Thank you very much!
bruce

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

No problem!

 
 Posted:   Oct 12, 2017 - 6:37 PM   
 By:   Josh "Swashbuckler" Gizelt   (Member)

Having recently revisited a lot of Williams' original album arrangements, and in particular having just reconstructed the Superman double LP with Blue Box sources, I have to say I am a bit surprised at how jarring some of the cuts are on many of his album edits.

Is THIS what you were doing while other people were taking over the Custom Covers thread??


Um… maybe…

 
 Posted:   Nov 8, 2017 - 8:16 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

I interviewed Mike Matessino about this release for those of you who may have missed it:

http://www.jwfan.com/?p=9994


Also, The Second Disc has a cool new article about the creation of the cover art, and it includes some alternate covers in the article as well

https://theseconddisc.com/2017/11/extra-terrific-inside-the-art-of-la-la-lands-e-t-soundtrack-reissue/


Posters of the artwork will be available tomorrow morning at mondotees.com:


HEADS-UP (like Elliott's): Mondo has some remaining posters that are expected to be posted for sale on their website beginning tomorrow (Thursday) at 10:30 a.m. US Central Time. mondotees.com


https://mondotees.com/

The poster version looks like this:

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 3:00 AM   
 By:   sinus   (Member)

Thanks for the story (and all you do, those spreadsheets are really helpful.) smile

Still, what happened to the bike? The front wheel seems detached from the handlebar.

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 11:08 AM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Looks like they sold out quick

https://mondotees.com/products/e-t-jim-titus-poster?variant=46260997134

 
 Posted:   Nov 9, 2017 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   Henry Jones   (Member)

Looks like they sold out quick

https://mondotees.com/products/e-t-jim-titus-poster?variant=46260997134


I watch all the day except one hour, and it sold out of course... frown Only 365 copies, really? Oh, boy...

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2017 - 1:24 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

Hey ya'll,

There was some lingering question about what was recorded analog and what was recorded digital for ET, so Mike M was kind enough to ask Bruce about it and I've added a new bit to the article about it, including 3 new pictures. Check it out!

http://www.jwfan.com/?p=9994

 
 Posted:   Nov 10, 2017 - 2:00 PM   
 By:   acathla   (Member)

Excited about listening to this!
I have it, but still haven't listened. Decided I want to see the movie first.
It's probably at least 25 years since I saw it last time and I didn't care about score back then.
Dont remember any of it! Nor do I know any of the (probably) famous cues.
But I've heard it's supposed to be good! smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 15, 2017 - 4:13 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

One of the best releases I've ever seen.

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2018 - 11:51 AM   
 By:   JTWfan77   (Member)

Just noticed that the next pressing batch is now in stock at LLL, in case anyone is interested.

 
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