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Maybe, just maybe, what i can imagine is what so many pop groups are doing with box-sets of several of their albums or super deluxe editions: One big box-set: 60 years of Bond, 25 (official) Movies / 25 Soundtracks on 25 CDs plus up to 5 Bonus disks (or put all available unreleased music after the shorter albums). Limited to 7007 Editions, for let's say 250 to 300 bucks. Could be done by a niche label or Sony itself. I don't want to wait any longer. I bought the Albums, the EMI Manhattan CDs in 1988, the Remastered and Expanded CDs in 2003 and i don't want to wait till i'm 75 for the rest. Life's too short! I hear you. The way to go wouldn't be that long: Dr. No From Russia With Love Goldfinger Thunderball On Her Majesty's Secret Service (was reportedly already in preparation) The Man With The Golden Gun The Spy Who Loved Me Moonraker (was reportedly already in preparation) For Your Eyes Only Octopussy A View To A Kill I think "You Only Live Twice," "Diamonds Are Forever," "Live And Let Die," and "The Living Daylights" should be fine as they are now.
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A lot of these titles deserve new expansions, and I'd buy them, but The Spy Who Loved Me is a special case as the one that never got an original soundtrack release. I wish it would get the treatment FSM gave King Kong: Deluxe Edition. Go back to the 2-inch master reels and make a 2-disc set with the complete score followed by the LP program. KK: DE is a dream release, perfect in every way, and it's a contemporary of TSWLM. It just seems so doable, and they aren't doing it.
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Maybe, just maybe, what i can imagine is what so many pop groups are doing with box-sets of several of their albums or super deluxe editions: One big box-set: 60 years of Bond, 25 (official) Movies / 25 Soundtracks on 25 CDs plus up to 5 Bonus disks (or put all available unreleased music after the shorter albums). Limited to 7007 Editions, for let's say 250 to 300 bucks. Could be done by a niche label or Sony itself. I don't want to wait any longer. I bought the Albums, the EMI Manhattan CDs in 1988, the Remastered and Expanded CDs in 2003 and i don't want to wait till i'm 75 for the rest. Life's too short! I hear you. The way to go wouldn't be that long: Dr. No From Russia With Love Goldfinger Thunderball On Her Majesty's Secret Service (was reportedly already in preparation) The Man With The Golden Gun The Spy Who Loved Me Moonraker (was reportedly already in preparation) For Your Eyes Only Octopussy A View To A Kill I think "You Only Live Twice," "Diamonds Are Forever," "Live And Let Die," and "The Living Daylights" should be fine as they are now. I fully agreed with fellow member Christian & Laurent-Watteau that life is too short & we need to see expanded release this year & Sefan’s idea is very good way to go about it. La La Land Records have already done a fantastic job of releasing 2 x expanded score versions The World is Not Enough in 2018 & Die Another Day in 2017 in chronological film order. Let’s hope La La Land Records can continue releasing more James Bond expanded soundtracks now ‘NO TIME TO DIE ’ has been released & let’s hope this happens this year for the 60th anniversary. Top of my list is Moonraker & LIcence to Kill (this has at least 40 minutes not released), although would really like the following John Barry albums expanded MWTGG, Octopussy & AVTAK & Thunderball (still has about 20 - 25 minutes unreleased music) & non Barry scores TND & TSWLM & Goldeneye (about 25 minutes unreleased music) I am a great believer that anything is possible, even though I know the 1st Three films Dr No , From Russia With Love & Goldfinger the master tapes are said to be lost but they can always lift them by other means now days. You never know what might happen now we are in the 60th Anniversary in 2022 for me this is too good an opportunity to miss for the James Bond scores as this is the one category the music that has not been tapped apart from the fantastic expansions Lukas Kendall did in 2003 on 4 of the older scores. I think it would be great for expanded score box sets for the Bond actors who played Bond , a Sean Connery Box set , a combined George Lazenby & Timothy Dalton Box set, a Roger Moore Box set, a Pierce Brosnan Box set (offer without DAD & TWINE ) & finally a Daniel Craig Box set or other options like a full expanded Bond score Boxset , let’s hope & pray La La Land Records will be able to do this . I would still be happy for more Single double CD Expanded Bond scores as I know the James Bond music community are really hoping this will happen but need more than one Bond score released per year. Lets hope La La Land Records are looking at all these possible options for the 60th anniversary & they can get through any red tape that currently exists , as it too bigger opportunity to miss, considering the last big lot of expanded Bond scores was in 2003 almost 20 years ago. What do other Bond Music fans think on this thread of the missing James Bond Music cues & expanding them on new Double CD releases ?
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If we're talking box sets . . . I can think of a really nice set that would be called something like: James Bond, the John Barry Scores.
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There's bound to be a string of Bond score releases come fall. With the 60th Anniversary, the Music of Bond documentary, the postponement of the planned LLL-releases and the new Royal Philharmonic CD etc. It all points to that! Let’s really hope the 60th Anniversary is celebrated on the Music front as it is too good an opportunity to miss.
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There's bound to be a string of Bond score releases come fall. With the 60th Anniversary, the Music of Bond documentary, the postponement of the planned LLL-releases and the new Royal Philharmonic CD etc. It all points to that! Don't hold your breath. Right now, I think the likelihood of new score expansions is very low. Cheers
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Sadly, It’s true. We’ll get nothing, only „Bond 25” rerecording album from Decca. „Everything is on hold”, as MV wrote in other topic
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Actual facts about how far LLL got with trying to get things like Moonraker and a complete OHMSS out are sparse. So, unfortunately, a lot of what goes round the internet has filled the gaps with assumptions, speculation and seemingly plausible but uninformed "math", and before long there's an urban myth version of the truth going round. If we go right back to what we actually know for a fact, it's literally only that MV said LLL had the intent to release these scores as anniversary editions in 2019. How far they got before it was a non-starter, and the real reasons for it being a non-starter, are known to nobody but those on the inside, who probably regret having ever mentioned it. Even if someone did give a go, three years is a long time in corporate hierarchies, and don't forget the MGM/Amazon thing. Three year old agreements don't tend to survive that kind of thing. It's often a case of having to start again. If I was a betting man, my bet would be that if there is any 60th anniversary soundtrack activity at all, besides compilation albums, it will be vanilla reissues of what's already been done. I hope I'm wrong, obviously. Cheers
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Much as I'd like a complete (and better-sounding) Moonraker or a complete TMWTGG, if the only way to get them is in a massive box set of other scores, a substantial majority of which are already available, then to hell with it. I'll manage without. (We have managed all these years already, these things would be nice but they're not essentials.) Individual scores: fine, we can pick and choose and decide for ourselves whether the extra material is worth the upgrade. Plus it would be prohibitively expensive even before the shipping and customs charges. (Sorry to bring it down to mere money, but some of us have to eat, you know.) Individual scores: fine, we can pick and choose and decide for ourselves whether it's really worth upgrading Live And Let Die for a whole five extra seconds. But I've never understood the boxset mentality unless none of it's already available (eg the Friday The 13th box set from LLL). Sure, I recently replaced all my Bond DVDs with BluRays, so I did upgrade 23 films with pretty much identical content but better picture quality. But the visual difference between DVD and Blu (at least in the half dozen older movies I've rewatched so far) is way more noticeable than the aural difference between the remastered 2003 CDs and any future potential remasters. Many of the Bond CDs are perfectly fine the way they are: some do sound worse than others but it's hardly surprising that scores recorded half a century ago don't somehow sound like they were recorded last week. And do we want them to? The sound quality of older recordings is part of them, it's part of their DNA. (Plus, audio upgrades are necessarily for the better: hasn't it been suggested that the original Japanese CD of AVTAK sounds much better than the 2003 CD?) The trouble is that, outside in the real world, are there that many real people willing to shell out, either on specific scores or the whole box? I suspect there aren't enough to make the minor tinkering (on Live And Let Die or Diamonds Are Forever) worth the effort, or who aren't satisfied with the already hugely expanded versions, or who are somehow fans of all the wildly different scores to the extent that none of them are the price you have to pay for getting the favourites slightly bigger and better in a nice and ridiculously overpriced shiny box. As a Real Person, I'd like maybe half a dozen of them, none of them from the previous tranche of expansions, and the rest of them are either perfectly alright as they are, or terrible anyway so I'm not going to pay up again for more of them (Thunderball, I'm looking at you here, and I don't do that very often). Assuming, of course, that the tapes still exist, and someone knows where they are, and they can be licensed where necessary, and the sound quality's good enough.... However great the fantasy, reality has a habit of getting in its way. They'd be nice, but if it doesn't ultimately happen, then we're exactly where we are now - arguing about a few minutes here or a twangy guitar there. Much as I'd like a complete (and better-sounding) Moonraker or a complete TMWTGG, I can't lose sleep over them.
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My question is : will there still be a (large) audience in 25 years time who are interested in expanded 'Moonraker', 'TSWLM', etc.?
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Actual facts about how far LLL got with trying to get things like Moonraker and a complete OHMSS out are sparse. So, unfortunately, a lot of what goes round the internet has filled the gaps with assumptions, speculation and seemingly plausible but uninformed "math", and before long there's an urban myth version of the truth going round. If we go right back to what we actually know for a fact, it's literally only that MV said LLL had the intent to release these scores as anniversary editions in 2019. How far they got before it was a non-starter, and the real reasons for it being a non-starter, are known to nobody but those on the inside, who probably regret having ever mentioned it. Even if someone did give a go, three years is a long time in corporate hierarchies, and don't forget the MGM/Amazon thing. Three year old agreements don't tend to survive that kind of thing. It's often a case of having to start again. If I was a betting man, my bet would be that if there is any 60th anniversary soundtrack activity at all, besides compilation albums, it will be vanilla reissues of what's already been done. I hope I'm wrong, obviously. A few months ago a Barry fan announced to the world on JBAS Facebook that Moonraker CD expanded was to be released ....very soon. Reading the previous remarks on this James Bond -The Missing Music it appears to have been a load of tripe with a rumor started by an over enthusiastic individual. Nothing surprises me anymore. Cheers
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To be fair, Mike Gerhard did go public on the John Barry or James Bond Facebook group to say LLL had intent to release anniversary editions of Moonraker, OHMSS and Licence To Kill in 2019, but they couldn't bring it to fruition. (He probably wishes he hadn't, although I very much appreciate the candour.) It's just that fans took that inch and spun a mile of yarn—plus a whole lot of expectation—from it. Cheers
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To be fair, Mike Gerhard did go public on the John Barry or James Bond Facebook group to say LLL had intent to release anniversary editions of Moonraker, OHMSS and Licence To Kill in 2019, but they couldn't bring it to fruition. (He probably wishes he hadn't, although I very much appreciate the candour.) It's just that fans took that inch and spun a mile of yarn—plus a whole lot of expectation—from it. Cheers Actual facts about how far LLL got with trying to get things like Moonraker and a complete OHMSS out are sparse. So, unfortunately, a lot of what goes round the internet has filled the gaps with assumptions, speculation and seemingly plausible but uninformed "math", and before long there's an urban myth version of the truth going round. If we go right back to what we actually know for a fact, it's literally only that MV said LLL had the intent to release these scores as anniversary editions in 2019. How far they got before it was a non-starter, and the real reasons for it being a non-starter, are known to nobody but those on the inside, who probably regret having ever mentioned it. Even if someone did give a go, three years is a long time in corporate hierarchies, and don't forget the MGM/Amazon thing. Three year old agreements don't tend to survive that kind of thing. It's often a case of having to start again. If I was a betting man, my bet would be that if there is any 60th anniversary soundtrack activity at all, besides compilation albums, it will be vanilla reissues of what's already been done. I hope I'm wrong, obviously. Cheers Stephen great as always to have your opinions on the possible new James Bond film score expansions that we are all hoping will happen in the 60th Anniversary of James Bond by La La Land Records I really hope MV from La La Land Records is setting very low expectations for any James Bond Expanded film scores this year , so that we are then amazed when some expansions do appear we are then amazed, maybe I’m just dreaming. Let’s just hope that behind the scenes any red tape that needs to happen to get further James Bond film score expansions off the ground can happen, just hoping & praying this is the case as all James Bond Music fans are really hoping this will come to fruition as we are all not getting any younger, or will it be like the 40th James Bond anniversary in 2002 & we see expanded James Bond film scores a year after the anniversary (2003) ?
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If I was a betting man, my bet would be that if there is any 60th anniversary soundtrack activity at all, besides compilation albums, it will be vanilla reissues of what's already been done. On chrome cassette - no less...
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In order to put the COMPLETE score of "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" on C.D., they would have to split it on two discs and fill the second disc with bonus tracks (e.g. alternate versions) and maybe they have to do the same with the other scores on C.D. as well (hmm...I wonder if La La Land would consider doing this?)
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