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Here's my gripe. We know a lot of this music still exists and we know our specialty labels would love to release whatever they are given the right to. What is the hold up with the people who own the rights to these scores? At some point can't they see the expanded releases of almost everything else selling and not understand that they can make money? What's bugging me more is that it's highly possible the hold up to these releases are nothing more than the companies that own them being too busy with other matters to even have time to look into the scores. We have been clamoring and hoping for more Bond releases, forever. We have shown time and again that we will in fact buy whatever newly expanded Bond score they put out whether it is our favorite score or not just to support more Bond releases. What more do the rights holders of these scores need to see before we can get them to budge?
Everyone who follows my posts here knows the unreleased Bond tracks I want. Archives and Tank Chase by Altman from GoldenEye. And Free Fall from Moonraker. Just give me those two cues and I'll shut my mouth. I of course want so much more but those are the two I want the most.
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Let's face it: there are a lot of problems for expanded or even complete Bond scores.
1. a lot of tapes are lost or destroyed or at least shortly before being detroyed. Lukas, who gave us the excellent "Goldfinger", "Thunderball" etc. expansions - thank you very much again, Lukas - told me last year, that he was searching for the 9 or 10 minutes of the missing "Goldfinger" cues, but he had no success. Now the complete tapes are lost!? What about the other scores? How much is lost, how much is there? Maybe most of the 2003 expansions are the best we can get.
2. licence issues: Does anybody know, who has the rights for releasing the scores? The last label was EMI, bought by Universal and eventually smashed. Who has the rights? Universal alone, EON alone or amazon alone or all three together?
In my opinion there are so many uncertainties, that now I'm as pessimistic as Stephen: maybe a Best of-CD is everything. But like Stephen, I hope I'm wrong.
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1. a lot of tapes are lost or destroyed or at least shortly before being detroyed.
It's NOT true. All of them are safe.
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1. a lot of tapes are lost or destroyed or at least shortly before being detroyed.
It's NOT true. All of them are safe.
This is correct. The tapes are neither lost or destroyed. This has been confirmed for years.
The written scores are a different story.
One of the labels has already indicated that they are trying to work on these. MGM was just sold to Amazon and this means they have new corporate overlords. These things take time.
We do not know exactly, actually. We can assume that much more exists than has been released and that all the existing material at hand should have been backed up when the movies have been restored. As time passes, however, the probabilitiy that things get lost again increases. Many things that have been reported to exist until the late 1990s have since disappeared or become unplayable. It's a sad situation - and not just with the Bond scores.
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Jan 6, 2022 - 2:26 PM
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Although the films themselves are a part of a somewhat coherent series, the original music tapes are stored in different locations in different countries, under many conditions, on multiple formats, with varying degrees of archival work done to them, and in varying states of decay. Ideally they would be digitally backed up to preserve them in their current state, but some of the formats are not cheap to work with so this may not have been done.
Usually once tapes are located, they are catalogued in some way and don't get lost, but they may decay or get stuck on outdated formats which are difficult to access with modern equipment.
We do not know exactly, actually. We can assume that much more exists than has been released and that all the existing material at hand should have been backed up when the movies have been restored. As time passes, however, the probabilitiy that things get lost again increases. Many things that have been reported to exist until the late 1990s have since disappeared or become unplayable. It's a sad situation - and not just with the Bond scores.
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Jan 6, 2022 - 3:52 PM
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Jameson281
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Although the films themselves are a part of a somewhat coherent series, the original music tapes are stored in different locations in different countries, under many conditions, on multiple formats, with varying degrees of archival work done to them, and in varying states of decay. Ideally they would be digitally backed up to preserve them in their current state, but some of the formats are not cheap to work with so this may not have been done.
Usually once tapes are located, they are catalogued in some way and don't get lost, but they may decay or get stuck on outdated formats which are difficult to access with modern equipment.
Everything is in an inventory system, everything is barcoded and tracked. Less likelihood of things getting lost now than in the olden days when you were relying on paper inventories. As soon as the MOONRAKER tapes were located, backups were created.
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