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 Posted:   Sep 6, 2018 - 6:26 AM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

Have never heard of Dusty, but he IS listed as composer on (ahem) IMDB

That's right, it is listed. "https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0250354/reference". It was a TV pilot.

You'd think one of the labels could verify the existence of recording sessions. Unless he never actually did it, and it only used a Goldsmith temp track. Or maybe he had signed to do it, but when the pilot didn't sell they decided not to finish it. Another mystery for a Soundtrack Detective. There's a good pilot idea!

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2018 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Have never heard of Dusty, but he IS listed as composer on (ahem) IMDB... should be a simple matter of someone actually WATCHING this movie, and if Goldsmith has a credit, then..... there ya go! big grin

IMDb credits are a total mess; there are plenty of inaccuracies still there regarding Jerry.

You'd think one of the labels could verify the existence of recording sessions. Unless he never actually did it, and it only used a Goldsmith temp track. Or maybe he had signed to do it, but when the pilot didn't sell they decided not to finish it. Another mystery for a Soundtrack Detective. There's a good pilot idea!

Goldsmith music being repurposed seems most likely to me, honestly, though I would love to be proven wrong if someone can uncover the film and confirm. But, y'know, Jerry Goldsmith has an IMDb "composer" credit for 1992's The Bogie Man for example (so does Elmer Bernstein)...so ya gotta take these things with a grain of salt unless there is some actual confirmation.

Someone supplied the following plot synopsis for "Dusty" on IMDb: "The exploits of Dusty, a Los Angeles cabbie who longs to be a private detective. The pilot episode establishes how Dusty becomes the apprentice of world renown private investigator investigator Tim Halloran. Halloran uses Dusty's cab to follow a suspect and Dusty latches onto him, aids him, and soon becomes his assistant. In their first case together, Dusty and Halloran become involved with a kidnapped girl and missing drugs sought by mobsters."

I'll bet you Chinatown and/or The Detective or something were tracked into this. Unless someone can find evidence of a close relationship between Jerry and director Don Medford, that might explain Jerry doing the big favor of scoring a friend's obscure TV pilot in the mid-80s at the height of his powers?

Scrolling through the latter's credits, I see one instance where they might have collaborated -- a lost (at least I wasn't able to find it!) 1957 episode of Climax! called "The Trial of Captain Wirtz". The director also prominently used Goldsmith music on the Twilight Zone episode "Deaths-Head Revisited", but that was just repeatedly tracking in a Goldsmith "wild" library cue (Mysterious Storm)...hmm...

On the other hand *one* of the executive producers of Dusty was Lee Rich, who executive produced The Waltons in the 70s. Also The Man, Pursuit, and Do Not Fold, Spindle, or Mutilate. So maybe that's the connection?

In any case, it was extremely unusual for Jerry to work in TV during the 80s -- 2/4 parts of Masada and the one Joe Dante episode "Boo!" of Amazing Stories is all we have confirmed, I think. (Well...and some Olympic 7-Eleven ads I found out about on Facebook recently!) Before that his last TV work was in the mid-70s.

So I hope if someone knows more they will chime in. smile

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Sep 17, 2018 - 1:28 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

This is how IMDb composer credits work:

If the person is credited for the score, you enter the person. If that person did not original score or none of the score the person did (that was original) is used, you enter into the attribute box: (uncredited)

"The Bogie Man" credits:

Music by
ELMER BERNSTEIN, JERRY GOLDSMITH
WOLFGANG AMADEUS MOZART


It's just somebody how had no idea if the thing was tracked, didn't include the proper attribute, which I am now going in and adding.




EDIT:

Yavar, why don't you put together a short list of titles you are trying to obtain, and I'll pass it on to a guy who collects pilots and unreleased stuff and how know what contacts he has.

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2018 - 9:52 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Thanks; I'd appreciate that. Here are the programs we're still searching for to cover on The Goldsmith Odyssey (the majority of these are technically "unconfirmed" until we see Jerry's credit onscreen and/or hear the music):
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=126818&forumID=2&archive=0

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2018 - 9:58 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

U.S. Marshals- complete!

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2018 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

It's at least 99% certain that Intrada is putting out the premiere commercial release of The Reincarnation of Peter Proud in their last batch of the year on December 3rd...
http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=132342&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=873

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2018 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

I don't know if it's been mentioned in this gargantuan thread but the one I'd still love to see done is The Chairman. It's a gargantuan score with some of the most epic scene-setting moments and most frenetic action of Goldsmith's career, there's a ton of fantastic suspense scoring in the last 30 minutes, and there has NEVER been an official release of the score apart from the original LP. And of course it's all supposed to be lost but Varese came up with one great additional cue in mono for their Goldsmith box set. I keep hearing there's nothing else left but I'd happily accept a version with the remainder of the score in mono (as the added cue on the box set sounded great)--we all thought Dracula was lost forever too so my big tall wish would be for elements for The Chairman to finally turn up...

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2018 - 10:32 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I'm right there with you, Jeff, with The Chairman being one of my most wanted Goldsmith expansions. Ideally if the whole score does survive in mono it could be accompanied by the album program again in stereo -- maybe someone can squeeze a little better sound out of that program with new tech, even if the original album tapes still can't be located.

We do know Luc van de Ven and James Fitzpatrick wanted to do a new recording of this score, but for some reason weren't allowed to access the complete written scores at Fox. James wrote:
"It certainly will not be THE CHAIRMAN as Fox Films would not give permission for us to access the Goldsmith sketches that they hold in their archive. Both Luc and myself would love to record it."

Presumably those are necessary for a full reconstruction because some cues were dialed out or unused in the film, and can't be reconstructed by ear as QBVII and The Salamander were.

Yavar

P.S. So Jeff, did Intrada engage you to write the notes for either of their two upcoming Goldsmith releases alluded to by Roger? smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 29, 2018 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Could be...

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2018 - 5:56 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Here's what I had written about
The Reincarnation of Peter Proud -- I feel sure that either Varese or Intrada will put this one out some day. The question is will they have the best sources. There is a boot but here's what Doug Fake had to say about it back in 2005: "While poor cassette dubs and CDRs abound, true master elements for the majority of this score remain missing. Though a license can probably be negotiated for the album rights, the recording sessions were done here. So AFM fees also still apply, if the actual session masters can be located. There were separate orchestral sessions, piano sessions and electronic sessions. Where everything ended up is a mystery. We've found a small part of them but that's it so far. We'll keep our eyes peeled..."

Well, apparently Intrada did finally find good enough sources for the complete score (albeit the second chronological half strangely in mono rather than stereo...I wonder why it wasn't similarly preserved). Amazing news and I must say the sound clips (of the first half in particular) sound really good!
http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.11723/.f

This is the first Goldsmith premiere in over four years (since Varese's The List of Adrian Messenger), although The Lonely Guy came close since only five minutes of score was released on the LP. What a way to end the year! And the cherry on top is that Jeff Bond did indeed write the notes. smile

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2018 - 6:14 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

Here's what I had written about
The Reincarnation of Peter Proud -- I feel sure that either Varese or Intrada will put this one out some day. The question is will they have the best sources. There is a boot but here's what Doug Fake had to say about it back in 2005: "While poor cassette dubs and CDRs abound, true master elements for the majority of this score remain missing. Though a license can probably be negotiated for the album rights, the recording sessions were done here. So AFM fees also still apply, if the actual session masters can be located. There were separate orchestral sessions, piano sessions and electronic sessions. Where everything ended up is a mystery. We've found a small part of them but that's it so far. We'll keep our eyes peeled..."

Well, apparently Intrada did finally find good enough sources for the complete score (albeit the second chronological half strangely in mono rather than stereo...I wonder why it wasn't similarly preserved). Amazing news and I must say the sound clips (of the first half in particular) sound really good!
http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.11723/.f

This is the first Goldsmith premiere in over four years (since Varese's The List of Adrian Messenger), although The Lonely Guy came close since only five minutes of score was released on the LP. What a way to end the year! And the cherry on top is that Jeff Bond did indeed write the notes. smile

Yavar


Certainly a win for all of us "bottle cap" collectors for sure! smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 3, 2018 - 8:48 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

ROPP

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2019 - 11:06 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Wow, from out of the blue a surprise Goldsmith premiere, never even released on an unmentionable before!



Way to go, LLL! Now I wonder how many episode scores Jerry contributed to this, as there is a weird inconsistency between IMDb (which only says Jerry scored episode 4, "Shades of Blue") and Jerry Goldsmith Online (which says Jerry wrote the theme and scored the pilot, which to me would make most sense). Since neither of those two episodes are available for purchase or online for viewing to my knowledge, I am really excited to find out the full extent of Jerry's involvement on this show. For any curious, here's Jerry's main title:



I'm also curious as to whether any improvements to Warning Shot were possible, since it's being reissued as the pairing here.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2019 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   WagnerAlmighty   (Member)

JG!!!

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2019 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   Score-Man-X   (Member)

Wow, from out of the blue a surprise Goldsmith premiere, never even released on an unmentionable before!

I'm also curious as to whether any improvements to Warning Shot were possible, since it's being reissued as the pairing here.

Yavar


ARCHER not seem to have much music for a single CD release.
Since the music was combined with the soundtrack of WARNING SHOT on a single CD, maybe not more music of ARCHER has survived the time.
Or is the ARCHER score on this CD the release of a then (1975) planned but unrealized soundtrack LP album?
I was too young then, so I do not know if the TV series was at the beginning so successful that a soundtrack LP release was considered, but finally canceled.
For me at least it looks like the classic combination of 2 LP albums ...

 
 Posted:   Feb 1, 2019 - 2:55 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I don't think there was any planned Archer album. Goldsmith only scored the pilot and the series only lasted for six episodes. This will be the premiere of the original (and only) recording. It sounds like it was paired with Warning Shot not only for length/licensing reasons, but also because LLL discovered a new better source for the Warning Shot film recording.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 8, 2019 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I had written:
"The Public Eye -- According to Mike Ross-Trevor, Goldsmith recorded a rejected score which had a dark Chinatown vibe. Similar to Babe, Varese released the score by Mark Isham utilized in the film, so they may control the rights to the rejected score as well, unless there's some loophole (ie. Perseverance was able to release the rejected scores to Chinatown and Edge of Darkness as long as they didn't include the film title on their package)."

AMAZING NEWS about Jerry's infamous rejected dark noir score! (from the webmaster of Jerry Goldsmith Online)


Good news on this. I checked with MRT and although he didn’t have any tapes himself a DAT was sent to JG at the time and has been found by Carol and the score is being worked on for release by a label who releases JG soundtracks quite a lot. But be warned how long it will take to do the paperwork on it is another matter so don’t hold your breath.


http://www.jerrygoldsmithonline.com/forum/viewthread.php?tid=5041

UNFRACKINGBELIEVABLE!

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2019 - 3:06 AM   
 By:   Brundlefly   (Member)

One quick question:
Why is Fierce Creatures not on the list? Is it already complete?

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2019 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I was told that the Varese album not only has everything in the film, but more besides which was recorded specifically for the album to bring it to a proper length. Of course I don’t know for sure that everything that was recorded is on the album...there may *possibly* be some unused alternates or something. But to the best of my knowledge, the complete score has been released.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 17, 2019 - 8:30 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Secret of NIMH complete! I love the OST and love Intrada's re-release with the one major unreleased cue they could find.

But oh man, after listening to their fantastic An American Tail release I want this, all the music without the album cross-fades more than anything. Maybe some day in the future they'll find the recording sessions- if they exist.

 
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