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Oct 31, 2023 - 3:16 PM
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Ado
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if the 4 of you guys bought a few million tickets each, well, 10 million each, Solo would have been a box office success.
I would not count on that Solo sequel series thing, Disney+ has scrapped a LOT of stuff lately.
it is half of an okay film, the first half, much of which you can hardly see, is the better part, then last runs off the rails, not really sure what is about or the point of the story. It looses all the air, just poof by the end. It shows the signs of a total studio mess that it indeed was. Nice score though
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I had the immense pleasure of watching Solo at a midnight showing at an Alamo Drafthouse movie theater opening weekend while on vacation. It was one of my most memorable theater experiences of the past several years. And that was very special to me.
If other people didn't go see it in theaters, that's not my problem. I've seen the stuff that often brings in big Box Office numbers week after week. It's not and never will be a measure of quality to me.
A great movie lives on in my memory, my heart and my Blu-ray collection. Everything else is all just noise.
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Oct 31, 2023 - 4:08 PM
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Ado
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you see a lot of movies John?
I mean, "great movie" is, well, generous, hyperbolic, in the extreme.
It is a true stretch to call Solo a 'good movie"
But, okay dude.
Box office is truly not a measure, but it does OFTEN align with the quality of the film, not always.
Terrible films make a lot of money, like this past weekend, great films are failures.
Solo was made TWICE, literally. The giant budget times 2, so it was doomed to fail.
It is the singular distinction of being the only Star Wars film ever to not end if profit, that is something.
Star Wars can basically make barely passable films and make a fortune, usually, not that time.
It lacked the magic, Alden was miscast, and the story, I do not think even Ron Howard knew what that film is about.
People do not go to Alamo to watch movies, they go to eat, and sorta watch the movie, between slurps and chews.
I cannot stand the place. last film I saw at Alamo was Force Awakens, never again, lady sawing away at pancakes next to me.
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Many in my life would say that I've seen too many films. And "great" is according to my personal enjoyment. I really don't care what anybody else's criteria is.
Anyway, I'm done. I'm certainly not going to waste my time defending my taste in cinema (no more than I would waste time telling somebody else what they should like or dislike).
Can't wait for my CDs to arrive!
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it is half of an okay film, the first half, much of which you can hardly see, is the better part, then last runs off the rails, not really sure what is about or the point of the story. It looses all the air, just poof by the end. It shows the signs of a total studio mess that it indeed was. Nice score though
I agree that the film gets a bit disjointed, but on the other hand, the story is more of a biopic than a traditional story with a beginning, middle and end. Many biopics tend to feel a bit disjointed when it focuses on various aspects of a person's life. Also, unlike a traditional biopic, which tends to build up to the event that made the person famous in the first place, the big events in Solo boil down to explaining relatively minor things that never really needed explanation or gave meaning to minor bits of dialogue sprinkled throughout the original trilogy. Also the B story doesn't have much significance to those who have only seen the movies. So, I can see why the film would not be a satisfying experience for many, and skippable for many other fans. It is also missing the key ingredient that makes Han Solo work: Harrison Ford.
All that being said, as a huge Star Wars fan, I also enjoyed the film. Is it my favorite? Nope. Was it my favorite film of 2018? Not even close. But it is an entertaining enough film that has some fun moments and gave us a fantastic score. Ordering the set from Intrada is me triple dipping on this score, and I am happy to do it.
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Nov 1, 2023 - 4:46 AM
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Ado
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Yeah, Michael, there are sections that do work, but I get to the end of Solo, and the feeling is, 'what was the point of that movie", which is made worse with the badly written, more serious turn at the end, which does not fit well with the rest of the film, and really, basically, serves no purpose at all. It is mostly a technically well assembled film, aside from the terrible Bradford Young cave-like camera work, but it is a hollow shell, lots of set pieces and boom-booms without much point to any of it. They had a lot of problems with the script at the outset, I think that the myth of Han Solo does not really fit well into movie, he is really such in incidental character, which has been carried into fame with really the nuances of performance by Ford. Nice score though.
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Nov 1, 2023 - 5:02 AM
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you see a lot of movies John?
I mean, "great movie" is, well, generous, hyperbolic, in the extreme.
It is a true stretch to call Solo a 'good movie"
But, okay dude.
Box office is truly not a measure, but it does OFTEN align with the quality of the film, not always.
Terrible films make a lot of money, like this past weekend, great films are failures.
Solo was made TWICE, literally. The giant budget times 2, so it was doomed to fail.
It is the singular distinction of being the only Star Wars film ever to not end if profit, that is something.
Star Wars can basically make barely passable films and make a fortune, usually, not that time.
It lacked the magic, Alden was miscast, and the story, I do not think even Ron Howard knew what that film is about.
People do not go to Alamo to watch movies, they go to eat, and sorta watch the movie, between slurps and chews.
I cannot stand the place. last film I saw at Alamo was Force Awakens, never again, lady sawing away at pancakes next to me.
To quote The Dude "That's just like, your opinion, man". It was a troubled movie no doubt , and not perfect, but for me highly entertaining. You don't like it and that's fine, but with respect, you ain't the law.
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Nov 1, 2023 - 5:22 AM
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Ado
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you see a lot of movies John?
I mean, "great movie" is, well, generous, hyperbolic, in the extreme.
It is a true stretch to call Solo a 'good movie"
But, okay dude.
Box office is truly not a measure, but it does OFTEN align with the quality of the film, not always.
Terrible films make a lot of money, like this past weekend, great films are failures.
Solo was made TWICE, literally. The giant budget times 2, so it was doomed to fail.
It is the singular distinction of being the only Star Wars film ever to not end if profit, that is something.
Star Wars can basically make barely passable films and make a fortune, usually, not that time.
It lacked the magic, Alden was miscast, and the story, I do not think even Ron Howard knew what that film is about.
People do not go to Alamo to watch movies, they go to eat, and sorta watch the movie, between slurps and chews.
I cannot stand the place. last film I saw at Alamo was Force Awakens, never again, lady sawing away at pancakes next to me.
To quote The Dude "That's just like, your opinion, man". It was a troubled movie no doubt , and not perfect, but for me highly entertaining. You don't like it and that's fine, but with respect, you ain't the law.
Well, it is not a "great" film. This is like the story of the destruction of the word 'awesome'. The word now means nothing at all, and the word "great' is pretty much in the same place. The overuse of the term 'great', or 'masterpiece' for really average films diminished the meaning of the word, and also is a disservice to films that truly are 'great'. Films like Lawrence of Arabia, Godfather, and 2001 are established as 'great'. It does not mean you have to watch them or even like them, but they are established as benchmarks of artistic film making achievement. Solo, is not.
I really never understand that inability for people to say that the love a film that is also, objectively, not really that good. I can freely admit that I really like, and own, some films that are not really that good. That is a more honest and useful lingual approach. Solo, at best, is an average film. Of course, you can make that one of your favorite movies that you really love and own it. Nice film score though.
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Nov 1, 2023 - 5:54 AM
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I really never understand that inability for people to say that the love a film that is also, objectively, not really that good. I can freely admit that I really like, and own, some films that are not really that good. That is a more honest and useful lingual approach. Solo, at best, is an average film. Of course, you can make that one of your favorite movies that you really love and own it. Nice film score though.
I agree with you on that 100%. I own a bunch of movies I love, and I'm well aware they're not very good.
I hated the score in this movie. It kept pulling me out of it. And was (quite like Giacchino's score for Rogue One) overdoing it, trying too hard to be epic and high tension when what was on screen was not calling for this.
But I absolutely love it on its own. It's the perfect SW picture inducing, imagination triggering music. Just not with that film in mind. At least for me.
Just ordered it.
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Nov 1, 2023 - 6:23 AM
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Solium
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you see a lot of movies John?
I mean, "great movie" is, well, generous, hyperbolic, in the extreme.
It is a true stretch to call Solo a 'good movie"
But, okay dude.
Box office is truly not a measure, but it does OFTEN align with the quality of the film, not always.
Terrible films make a lot of money, like this past weekend, great films are failures.
Solo was made TWICE, literally. The giant budget times 2, so it was doomed to fail.
It is the singular distinction of being the only Star Wars film ever to not end if profit, that is something.
Star Wars can basically make barely passable films and make a fortune, usually, not that time.
It lacked the magic, Alden was miscast, and the story, I do not think even Ron Howard knew what that film is about.
People do not go to Alamo to watch movies, they go to eat, and sorta watch the movie, between slurps and chews.
I cannot stand the place. last film I saw at Alamo was Force Awakens, never again, lady sawing away at pancakes next to me.
To quote The Dude "That's just like, your opinion, man". It was a troubled movie no doubt , and not perfect, but for me highly entertaining. You don't like it and that's fine, but with respect, you ain't the law.
Well, it is not a "great" film. This is like the story of the destruction of the word 'awesome'. The word now means nothing at all, and the word "great' is pretty much in the same place. The overuse of the term 'great', or 'masterpiece' for really average films diminished the meaning of the word, and also is a disservice to films that truly are 'great'. Films like Lawrence of Arabia, Godfather, and 2001 are established as 'great'. It does not mean you have to watch them or even like them, but they are established as benchmarks of artistic film making achievement. Solo, is not.
I really never understand that inability for people to say that the love a film that is also, objectively, not really that good. I can freely admit that I really like, and own, some films that are not really that good. That is a more honest and useful lingual approach. Solo, at best, is an average film. Of course, you can make that one of your favorite movies that you really love and own it. Nice film score though.
Yeah, anyone is free to like it, even love it. But its (IMHO) awfully underwhelming, lacks any spark, dank, dark and ugly looking. Love the score even though I understand some saying it was "over the top". It was probably done on purpose in an attempt to liven up the film.
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