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1. a lot of tapes are lost or destroyed or at least shortly before being detroyed.
It's NOT true. All of them are safe.
This is correct. The tapes are neither lost or destroyed. This has been confirmed for years.
The written scores are a different story.
One of the labels has already indicated that they are trying to work on these. MGM was just sold to Amazon and this means they have new corporate overlords. These things take time.
Oh? Are you saying there may yet be a glimmer of hope?
I really believe all the Bond music Score fans need to stay positive & believe this is in good hands
EON have been very good to work with , MV at La La Land Records confirmed this , its just getting through the red tape & hopefully we will see more Expanded James Bond scores & hopefully this year.
To me rereleasing the 2003 James Bond scores - in new packaging for 60th James Bond Anniversary that are now out of print on CD would be a waste & certainly the James Bond music fan community would not buy (I certainly would not buy repackaged CD’S for 60th Anniversary) but Expanded James Bond Scores with new unreleased music there is a market.
So let’s hope that the right message is heard by the right people to influence the right decision as the this is too good an opportunity to miss the 60th anniversary of James Bond & also this is the biggest part of the Bond universe the James Bond film scores that have not had the Gold star treatment it deserves especially the master of James Bond music scores John Barry
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1. a lot of tapes are lost or destroyed or at least shortly before being detroyed.
It's NOT true. All of them are safe.
This is correct. The tapes are neither lost or destroyed. This has been confirmed for years.
The written scores are a different story.
One of the labels has already indicated that they are trying to work on these. MGM was just sold to Amazon and this means they have new corporate overlords. These things take time.
Oh? Are you saying there may yet be a glimmer of hope?
I really believe all the Bond music Score fans need to stay positive & believe this is in good hands
EON have been very good to work with , MV at La La Land Records confirmed this , its just getting through the red tape & hopefully we will see more Expanded James Bond scores & hopefully this year.
To me rereleasing the 2003 James Bond scores - in new packaging for 60th James Bond Anniversary that are now out of print on CD would be a waste & certainly the James Bond music fan community would not buy (I certainly would not buy repackaged CD’S for 60th Anniversary) but Expanded James Bond Scores with new unreleased music there is a market.
So let’s hope that the right message is heard by the right people to influence the right decision as the this is too good an opportunity to miss the 60th anniversary of James Bond & also this is the biggest part of the Bond universe the James Bond film scores that have not had the Gold star treatment it deserves especially the master of James Bond music scores John Barry
Here's hoping if they rerelease any expanded editions there will be bonus tracks.
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The Daniel Craig CASINO ROYALE 2006 film score that was issued on CD / ITunes has missing music , in our James Bond Music community has anyone a full
List of the music queues from the film still to be released & the names & times of each track & showing the total amount of unreleased music ?
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The Daniel Craig CASINO ROYALE 2006 film score that was issued on CD / ITunes has missing music , in our James Bond Music community has anyone a full
List of the music queues from the film still to be released & the names & times of each track & showing the total amount of unreleased music ?
https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/75012/Casino+Royale
This shows an iTunes digital download of 38 tracks and 1hr27min of music (as opposed to the CD release of 25 tracks and 1hr17min of music).
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The Daniel Craig CASINO ROYALE 2006 film score that was issued on CD / ITunes has missing music , in our James Bond Music community has anyone a full
List of the music queues from the film still to be released & the names & times of each track & showing the total amount of unreleased music ?
https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/75012/Casino+Royale
This shows an iTunes digital download of 38 tracks and 1hr27min of music (as opposed to the CD release of 25 tracks and 1hr17min of music).
Thanks for this info but is this the full CASINO ROYALE film score or are there still missing cues
that need to be added to make this score complete ?
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The Daniel Craig CASINO ROYALE 2006 film score that was issued on CD / ITunes has missing music , in our James Bond Music community has anyone a full
List of the music queues from the film still to be released & the names & times of each track & showing the total amount of unreleased music ?
https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/75012/Casino+Royale
This shows an iTunes digital download of 38 tracks and 1hr27min of music (as opposed to the CD release of 25 tracks and 1hr17min of music).
Thanks for this info but is this the full CASINO ROYALE film score or are there still missing cues
that need to be added to make this score complete ?
If I remember correctly the itunes release was complete or pretty close to it just not in chronological order. I thought I remember someone saying what little was missing on the itunes release could be purchased elsewhere so you would have the complete score. Do not quote me on this as I could be remembering wrong. It has been a while.
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The Daniel Craig CASINO ROYALE 2006 film score that was issued on CD / ITunes has missing music , in our James Bond Music community has anyone a full
List of the music queues from the film still to be released & the names & times of each track & showing the total amount of unreleased music ?
https://www.soundtrackcollector.com/title/75012/Casino+Royale
This shows an iTunes digital download of 38 tracks and 1hr27min of music (as opposed to the CD release of 25 tracks and 1hr17min of music).
Thanks for this info but is this the full CASINO ROYALE film score or are there still missing cues
that need to be added to make this score complete ?
If I remember correctly the itunes release was complete or pretty close to it just not in chronological order. I thought I remember someone saying what little was missing on the itunes release could be purchased elsewhere so you would have the complete score. Do not quote me on this as I could be remembering wrong. It has been a while.
Would love to see the full music for CASINO ROYALE released on CD especially as the extra 10 minutes was put only on Itunes & missing from the CD
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The QUANTUM OF SOLACE film score that was issued on CD / ITunes has missing music , in our James Bond Music community has anyone a full List of the music queues from the film still to be released & the names & times of each track & showing the total amount of unreleased music ?
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SKYFALL & SPECTRE film scores by Thomas Newman that were issued on CD / ITunes have missing music , in our James Bond Music community has anyone a full List of the music queues from these 2 films still to be released & the names & times of each track & showing the total amount of unreleased music for each film ?
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James Bond - The Missing Music is a great discussion thread
A final summary is listed below of roughly what is currently missing from each EON James Bond film score that has been released on CD to date :-
DR NO - tecnhically none of the orchestral score is released, around 15-20 minutes
FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE - around 15 minutes
GOLDFINGER - around 15 minutes
THUNDERBALL -20-25 minutes, including some album only recordings and unfinished music
YOU ONLY LIVE TWICE - if you don't count re-edited cues, this one is mostly complete
ON HER MAJESTY’S SECRET SERVICE - around 10 minutes
DIAMONDS ARE FOREVER - 5 seconds
LIVE AND LET DIE - 5 seconds
THE MAN WITH THE GOLDEN GUN - around 25 minutes
THE SPY WHO LOVED ME - the whole score is missing, around 40 minutes
MOONRAKER - around 8-10 minutes
FOR YOUR EYES ONLY - around 10 minutes
OCTOPUSSY - around 25-30 minutes, but that doesn't include any circus music, that was library recording
A VIEW TO A KILL - around 16 minutes
THE LIVING DAYLIGHTS - around 8-10 minutes
LICENSE TO KILL - around 40 minutes
GOLDENEYE - about 20 mins, plus 5:52 for the John Altman tank chase cue
TOMORROW NEVER DIES - about 26 minutes
THE WORLD IS NOT ENOUGH - complete as per La La Land Records Release 2018
DIE ANOTHER DAY - complete as per La La Land Records Release 2017
CASINO ROYALE - around 10 minutes still to be released on CD
QUANTUM OF SOLACE- about 20 Minutes of music to still to be released on CD ?
SKYFALL - about 30 to 40 Minutes of music to still to be released on CD ?
SPECTRE - about 30 to 40 Minutes of music to still to be released on CD ?
NO TIME TO DIE - about 69 minutes
As you can see from above there is so much more music that us James Bond music fans are missing from a large number of the Bond films , so many great cues probably in total over 7 hours of unreleased music, that’s a huge amount of missing music, that deserves to be heard.
La La Land Records have already done a fantastic job of releasing 2 x expanded score versions The World is Not Enough in 2018 & Die Another Day in 2017 in chronological film order.
Let’s hope La La Land Records can continue releasing more James Bond expanded soundtracks now ‘NO TIME TO DIE ’ has been released & let’s hope this happens this year for 60th anniversary.
Top of my list is Moonraker & LIcence to Kill (this has at least 40 minutes not released), although would really like the following John Barry albums expanded MWTGG ( about 25 minutes unreleased music), Octopussy (about 25 - 30 minutes unreleased music), AVTAK (about 16 minutes unreleased music) & Thunderball (still has about 20 - 25 minutes unreleased music) & non Barry scores TND & TSWLM & Goldeneye (about 25 minutes unreleased music)
I am a great believer that anything is possible, even though I know the 1st Three films Dr No , From Russia With Love & Goldfinger the master tapes are said to be lost but they can always lift them by other means these days.
You never know what might happen now we are in the 60th Anniversary in 2022 for me this is too good an opportunity to miss for the James Bond scores as this is the one category the music that has not been tapped apart from the fantastic expansions Lukas Kendall did in 2003 on 4 of the older scores.
Lets hope La La Land Records are looking at all these possible options for the 60th anniversary & they can get through any red tape , as it too bigger opportunity to miss, considering the last big lot of expanded Bond scores was in 2003 almost 20 years ago.
What do other Bond Music fans think on this thread of the missing James Bond Music cues & expanding them on new Double CD releases ?
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Thanks for that giant list.
I remember using every single little thing from the recording sessions on the Diamonds Are Forever CD, with the sole exception of the longer version of the title song (which could not be cleared in time). I dimly remember the "five seconds" you are remembering, but it must have been tracked.
Lukas
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Thanks for that giant list.
I remember using every single little thing from the recording sessions on the Diamonds Are Forever CD, with the sole exception of the longer version of the title song (which could not be cleared in time). I dimly remember the "five seconds" you are remembering, but it must have been tracked.
Lukas
At the time, I think you wrote that DAF was missing nothing but a few random snare drum hits or drum rolls recorded for the circus scene in Las Vegas. So the CD really had all the music except for the title song version with an extra stanza in it.
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Thanks for that giant list.
I remember using every single little thing from the recording sessions on the Diamonds Are Forever CD, with the sole exception of the longer version of the title song (which could not be cleared in time). I dimly remember the "five seconds" you are remembering, but it must have been tracked.
Lukas
Lukas just wanted to personally thank you & I am sure I speak on behalf of the rest
Of the James Bond music score Community for all the hard work you did in 2003 on
expanding 4 of the James Bond scores in very limited time, resources & money & I know you would have loved to have done more scores with time & budget.
We have since 2003 seen 2 more James Bond films Expanded by La La Land Records DAD (2017) & TWINE (2018) , the James Bond Music community is really
hoping & praying that in the James Bond 60th Anniversary year that we can get more
James Bond film score expansions and any red tape can be cut through to make
this happen as none of us are getting any younger & this exceptional music needs to
be heard by the fans, as said before it’s the one area that has yet to be looked at in any real depth.
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For God’s sake, please release expanded 007’s this year. It’s 60th Anniversary of this legendary franchise.
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