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Herbert Stothart, another musical hack, scored 1934's VIVA VILLA!; Maurice Jarre wrote the so-called music for VILLA RIDES! (1968).
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Sep 22, 2002 - 2:59 PM
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JohnnyK
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LoA expects a lot more "intellectual repose" from viewers, mental participation rather than a passive thrill ride, light show, car chase, explosion-laden Hollywood themepark studio amusement ride. It is an investment that pays back time and again, like Citizen Kane, or 2001. But, ya gotta be willing to make that commitment. Otherwise, watch Armageddon or some other mind-scrambling Bruckheimer opus.
The Jarre score is as hypnotic as the desert imagery, as the enigma of Lawrence himself. The score works. It is in my collection, and I would not want to be without it.
Brownlow's Lean biography fills in any gaps one might have about LoA's subtexts, which, upon repeated viewing, gradually become clear by themselves. Lawrence was not an easy man to know, and the film asks us to be patient with the discovery as well.
I was so overwhelmed by the experience of LoA, I went out and bought the Penguin edition of Lawrence's autobiography, Seven Pillars of Wisdom. And a recent biography. After reading these, the film is even better.
Star Wars demands nothing of the viewer, except to be entertained, and well.
Lawrence demands much of the viewer, and that is why getting into the picture may be difficult for some. Jarre's excellent score is a perfect complement to the picture.
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Everyone tries to be an "intelectual" by praising the film while being bored to tears by it (As they "try" to like it) after a while! It just sounds so "intellegent " and hip to say you admire the film.. I'm BORED by it.. I'm honest enough to admit it! Are any of you?? And I hate Jarre and the score. My "opinion".. Don't worry, it won't make you any less of a "genius " to say that the movie is "tedious"...
Your accusation that those who like the film are liars who are truly bored with it but just want to look like "geniuses" is really unfair. I admit, when I was 15 and tried watching it on TV I was bored and turned it off after about a half hour. However, when I saw the restored cut on the big screen when it was re-released some years ago I was blown away - not bored for an instant - and went back to see it four more times before it left theaters. I didn't spend that time and money to prove anything to anyone.
When I posed the question asked by this topic I said I knew that these things are subjective. I have made no judgements on those who don't like the film or find it boring. I was hoping the get some interesting viewpoints, perhaps pointing out something negative about the score and film I didn't consider.
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Sorry,
Now on to all the others who agree with your viewpoint!
Hey, you like the film, more power to you.. But, what did you choose as the topic of this thread??
I wanted to hear what it is people don't like about the film and/or score. Not what people don't like about the poeple who like the movie.
I have no problem with the fact you think it's boring. That is a direct answer to my question. My last post was only responding to the fact that you assume those who DO like it are some how full of it and trying to show how smart they are.
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I hope you find your answers! Seriously..I'm not here to argue with you about it..
I'm not either and I hope you don't take my tone as overly intese about this. Here's a nice little "olive branch": I was just now looking at your other post and one thing I know we agree on is Albert Finney's performance in the Gathering Storm.
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I don't know about people trying to sound intellegent; but I did sit through it, in '62, and I was BORED TO TEARS. And yes, my ass hurt! I also, sat through it, again, when they re-released the restored film; and I hated it all over again. And yes, my ass hurt, even more! (It's a much older ass).
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John, I'm sorry about your poor ass, and I do appreciate your opinion.
Anzaldiman - If you do give the film another chance I do suggest you try to see it on a big screen, it's not the same on a TV - even letterboxed.
It's a gamble, though, you may become, like myself, one who loves the film, OR you might end up like poor John with just a sore ass.
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Todes,
I will see it again, and I'm sorry if I offended..I hope we can discuss this more!
I'm not offended in the least. I just wanted to call you on that one point. And from your other post it's all cleared up now.
For what it's worth, if you do see the film again, some things I found fascinating were 1) the first rate acting, 2) The complexity of the Lawrence character - his ambition, his respect for the Arab culture and yet his exploitation of it, 3) The incredible cinematography - the taking of Acaba in one big wide shot with all those extras! and 4) the score - but if you already don't like the score that's putting some serious odds in favor of you not becoming a "new covert" fan - I'm only saying that as fair warning so if you see it again because of me and still don't like it, I don't want you to send me the doctors bill for "sore-ass-itis'! 
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