Dear Thor, you are provoking me with your last comment, so I can't handle it.
Just how hiring someone who comes from "post-rock, and dark, ambient minimalism" could be even remotelly considered "a stroke of genius" in film scoring??!! And why, in the name of Asgard, should this aproach be a priori better than something "more traditionally-minded"??!! We've already seen (heard) it in recent DC films and obviously it doesn't work well for these characters.
Please explain this to someone who has the diametrically opposite view as yours here (the DARK KNIGHT scores are great, absolutely hate MAN OF STEEL, think BvS is even worst, and severely liked Elfman's JUSTICE LEAGUE).
Just how hiring someone who comes from "post-rock, and dark, ambient minimalism" could be even remotelly considered "a stroke of genius" in film scoring??!!
Because in terms of Hollywood superhero films, it has not been done before. It's usually either been trite orchestral conventions or trite RC conventions. Lots of crash-boom-bang brass and percussion. Now, I have no expections about the film JOKER, as I think 'revealing' the mystery of the character is the wrong way to go. I don't need a Joker back story. But it may at the very least allow for a different type of superhero film score; one from a more 'artsy', contemporary classical perspective than what we're used to.
I'm just excited that we're getting this kind of composer for big Hollywood productions. I don't care if it's superhero films or something else. Composers like Jóhannsson certainly paved the way in that regard.
Saw the film today. VERY good; I can understand where all the buzz is coming from. Arguably Phoenix' best performance to date, and that is saying something. De Niro's role is a kind of a reversed take on his KING OF COMEDY role.
Gudnadottir's score is very gripping. There are some interesting rhytmical things too, not just broad, dark cello textures. Not sure how well it will hold up on album, but I'm willing to give it a shot. Also brilliant use of existing songs.
This is a film and score for those of us who don't normally give a rat's ass about superhero stuff.
Oh, it's very musical. Not 'traditionally symphonic a la John Debney in the 90s'-type musical, but it would have been terribly out of place if it were. Rater, it's perfect music depicting the inner turmoil of Joker, the sharp cello chords trying desperately to break out into the open. The music has an anarchic quality to it.
That being said, I'm fairly confident a great many of the reactionary members here on FSM will dislike it vehemently. To them I flip my middle finger in advance!
Oh, it's very musical. Not 'traditionally symphonic a la John Debney in the 90s'-type musical, but it would have been terribly out of place if it were. Rater, it's perfect music depicting the inner turmoil of Joker, the sharp cello chords trying desperately to break out into the open. The music has an anarchic quality to it.
That being said, I'm fairly confident a great many of the reactionary members here on FSM will dislike it vehemently. To them I flip my middle finger in advance!
The Haga Disparagement
I'm pleasantly surprised B + R is a fan of TDK trilogy! I would Never pretend to know what Tor will like. He's as unpredictable as ' Rebel Jim' Phelps.
She had a long career before SICARIO 2, both in collaboration with Jóhann and alone. Both film and non-film. Check out some of her non-film work at https://www.hildurness.com/#music-player-section
My prediction for the.number of folks who click on: " zero..point...zero"
I was informed today that Hans Zimmer had in fact actively campaigned for there to be a female film composer on the original Wonder Woman, but it was shot down by executives.
Ah. I see. But (as you know), hiring "a female composer" is different from hiring "a specific female composer."
The show I'm working on now has no female directors, and there's been some flack about that (happily, not my department on this show, so I'm unscathed!). But the studio would have happily hired several specific female directors, who were for various reasons unavailable (two demanded too much money). So it's not like the studio put up a woman-haters sign, they simply didn't like the available choices.
Sorry,but YOU MUST HIRE FEMALE.DIRECTORS. I repeat " YOU MUST HIRE.FEMALE DIRECTORS. The Diversity Mafia has made you an " offer' you can not refuse. Me Too. Timesup.
Why would they be? And can you imagine if they were!
I was informed today that Hans Zimmer had in fact actively campaigned for there to be a female film composer on the original Wonder Woman, but it was shot down by executives. It's interesting that he took the Wonder Woman 2 job offer and then DC turns around and hires a female composer for the Joker movie. Kind of a nice surprise ending to the past couple days...
Have to say this one is a disappointment. I was hoping for something a little more avant grade. Instead it’s fairly restrained, nondescript and very brief at just over 30 mins long.
A much more accessible score than Chernobyl but be prepared for one of THE most depressing listens you will ever experience. Nothing earth-shattering musically BUT it did leave me on edge. VERY effective. Score apparently does lots of heavy lifting in the film.
