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 Posted:   Aug 26, 2018 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

"As a group, the composers are the most literate people in Hollywood. They are the intelligent, well-informed artists. They should be making the films." (Leonard Rosenman)

That quote would carry more weight if it wasn't from a film composer. It's kind of like the prestigious John Williams award going to John Williams.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2018 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

Yeah but hey, it stands to reason that if you're sensitive to music of all things in film you may very well be sensitive to other aspects of film. We've often said that Herrmann and Goldsmith would probably have been fine film directors. Not true of all composers but certainly some. Leonard R has expressed quite a sentiment there.

A movie without music is a little bit like an aeroplane without fuel. However beautifully the job is done, we are still on the ground and in a world of reality. Your music has lifted us all up and sent us soaring. --Audrey H to Henry M on the back jacket of Breakfast At Tiffany's

 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2018 - 12:24 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

We've often said that Herrmann and Goldsmith would probably have been fine film directors.

We have? Based on what?

Herrmann is one of my very favorite composers, but I think with his people skills, the production would shut down in the first two days!

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2018 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Sir William Walton, in a letter to his publisher, Hubert Foss:

“But as it is, it all boils down to this; whether I am to become a film composer or a real composer.”

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2018 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

We've often said that Herrmann and Goldsmith would probably have been fine film directors.

We have? Based on what?

Herrmann is one of my very favorite composers, but I think with his people skills, the production would shut down in the first two days!


Could be, he and Curtiz, Ford and Wyler were made for each other in that department! smile

 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2018 - 2:17 PM   
 By:   Essankay   (Member)

"...another tradition in the movies with which every composer comes into contact as soon as he reports to a studio, probably devised by the first producer ever to use a musical score for a dramatic film, runs as follows: If the audience doesn't notice the music, it's a good score. This I could never quite understand..."

- Oscar Levant (1942)

Everything old is new again.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2018 - 2:27 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

“(I have a) deep conviction that a composer cannot entrust the orchestration of his works to anyone else... (writing pieces of music and orchestrating them are) one and the same, so far as I’m concerned...”

“There are ‘great masters’ who keep a staff of secretaries to orchestrate their epochal opuses. I never could understand that way of increasing productivity.”

“You can always tape something and then let others orchstrate it for you. I know of one such ‘talented’ man who behaves in just this ugly manner - he’s lazy, I suppose...”

“Of course, composing by tape recorder is a special taste, like licking rubber boots, and I not only eschew such perversion, I don’t even like composing at the piano.”

All the genius that was Dmitri Shostakovich.

 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2018 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   mgh   (Member)


"No music has ever saved a bad picture, but a lot of good pictures have saved a lot of bad music." (Jerry Goldsmith)


Well, I'm going to take my life in my hands and disagree with the King himself. His own scores to films like Take A Hard Ride and 100 Rifles made it possible for me to sit through them. When the music was playing, they were great films.

 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2018 - 2:42 PM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

I agree with mgh. Its a great quote but for filmscore collectors, the first part simply isnt true. Certainly very average films can become utterly watchable if they have a great score.

Plenty of westerns fall into this category, especially spaghettis. If only they counted. wink

 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2018 - 3:22 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

All film music is crap.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2018 - 3:25 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

A few years ago I watched the The Magnificent Seven--the original, and I was amazed and shocked at how slow, plodding, and dreary that film was. In that specific instance, Elmer Bernstein saved that picture. And, by the way, I am from that generation that grew up in the sixties, so my comments are not based on generational differences.

 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2018 - 3:49 PM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

All film music is crap.

then why are you on this website?

 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2018 - 4:47 PM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

All film music is crap.

then why are you on this website?


Sigh...because it's not my quote.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2018 - 5:03 PM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

I have always rather liked the quote from Aaron Copland -

"Film music", he said, "is like a small lamp placed beneath the screen to warm it".

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 26, 2018 - 5:06 PM   
 By:   Alfachrger   (Member)

Film composing is a splendid discipline, and I recommend a course of it to all composition teachers whose pupils are apt to be dawdling in their ideas, or whose every bar is sacred and must not be cut or altered.

Ralph Vaughan Williams

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2018 - 3:45 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

“Music composed as an integral part of a film must not lose its artistic value, even outside it.” - Shostakovich

Boris Ivens, documentary film-maker, on working with composers: “All the rushes should be shown to the composer before the cutting has actually begun ... Although it may seem heresy in the music departments of Hollywood for me to say so, I believe that the composer can be a great help with suggestions for the cutting and timing of the visuals.”

 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2018 - 4:29 AM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

All film music is crap.

then why are you on this website?


Sigh...because it's not my quote.


I apologize. I bet it was a producer who said it - from the golden age.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2018 - 12:57 PM   
 By:   rerunkr   (Member)

Post four of your favorite quotes about film music — or quotes from film composers. If it is an observation about film music, it can be from anyone — composer, filmmaker, fan, your Aunt Tilly, whoever. However, if it is a quote from a film composer it doesn’t have to be about film music specifically (though it should pertain to music or art).

These are a few of my favorites. They are from my book "Stu Who?"

Music was originally discreet, seemly,
simple, masculine and of good morals.
Have not the moderns rendered it
lascivious beyond measure?
—JACOB OF LEIGE14TH CENTURY


The state of music is quite different from
what it was.
Taste has changed astonishingly,
and accordingly the former style of music
no longer seems to please our ears.
—J.S. BACH 1730


It is better to invent reality, than to copy it.
—G.VERDI,19TH CENTURY


My advice to those disposed to pursue a career in the music business
can be summed up in eight little words...
Get in...
Get lucky...
Get smart...
Get out.
—S.W. PHILLIPS, 2001

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2018 - 1:00 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

Great to see you still reading and posting here Stu.
Your music has brought me hours upon hours of enjoyment.

 
 
 Posted:   Aug 27, 2018 - 1:05 PM   
 By:   rerunkr   (Member)

Great to see you still reading and posting here Stu.
Your music has brought me hours upon hours of enjoyment.



Thank you Kev. Your words are most appreciated.

SP

 
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