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I have never been to one either, but next month (21st September) I've booked a ticket for the one-off, live-to-film presentation of THE GREAT ESCAPE at the South Bank Centre in London, with the BBC Concert Orchestra conducted by Peter Bernstein. Kinda looking forward to it. Also, I gather there will be a pre-screening interview with conductor Bernstein, Tommy Pearson asking the questions.
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Aug 19, 2019 - 1:34 PM
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Avatarded
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I can say that when I attended Titanic Live in Thousand Oaks, the rehearsals were inside a concert hall (the Soraya at CSUN) and hearing it - as Mike said about people having their first live orchestral experiences, this was mine - was sort of like this:
Imagine playing some of the Titanic music on a CD, but fed through the biggest, most expensive state of the art speaker system money can buy.
Well the rehearsals destroyed that, because it was just that much better. "Death of Titanic" was genuinely frightening.
The actual performance on the day however, was an entirely different experience.
The film's audio levels clashed with the music which caused crackling and distortion at times. The live sound mixer had to mute the film for some of the sinking sequences to avoid that crackling and clipping noise.
Also, the mixer favored the trumpets, flutes and snares and seemed to ignore everything else. It was very poorly mixed for the two loudspeakers at each side of the stage, and made the large symphony orchestra and choir sound like a small stage band in a music class.
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This brings the art beyond the few to the masses to appreciate how the music enhances the film experience. It is, after all, not composed in a vaccum. It is written to support the film. The average moviegoer doesn't get just how much, but these concerts give the scores a showcase in the context of their purpose.
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Yes keen but....not sure about this new gimmick! Enjoyed VERY much the experience of AMADEUS LIVE with a wonderful orchestra playing great music. Alittle off-putting were the subtitles but after seeing this film several times, I new what was coming up next.
Have booked THE GREAT ESCAPE and STAR WARS IV & V soon but having to endure a room full of fellow cinema goers who are NOT restrained, bringing their kids along who figit & someone eating a very LARGE bag of popcorn munching it down beside me, another disrupting us to go to the toilet then much later dashing to exit for the last train home or maybe leaving for the car park first & sometimes where the audio is muffled and the orchestra is off tempo!
I'm ONLY saying the possibilities for which I may have to endure this later on!
I shall See!
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Aug 21, 2019 - 5:13 AM
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Philmscore
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I grew up in a time when there were almost no film music concerts, especially in Europe - you had to travel to England to be able to listen to film music in concert. Today we see a lot of them, in concert form but also a lot of them in live to film form which I think is fantastic. And there are many different one's over here... apart from Star Wars there is Harry Potter, Ratatouille, Home Alone, Cinema Paradiso, Beauty and the Beast... I even remember odd choices like Hunger Games. Perhaps there are too many of them now and yes, I would certainly welcome "live to film concerts" like Vertigo, Ben Hur (now that would be spectacular if quite impossible!), Mutiny on the Bounty, The Big Country oh and how about Dirty Harry? That would be a big wowy!
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Aug 22, 2019 - 1:47 AM
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Thor
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It seems to me that the whole idea of these concerts is to SEE the musicians playing the score--to make that connection between music "on the screen" and the actual humans that create it.
The problem with that is that our brain doesn't work that way, unless you're film music geeks like us with a special conscious relationship to it. Cognitively -- as years of research has shown us -- we prioritze visuals over the aural, and when you have a story on top of that, the attention is inevitably drawn to the screen 90% of the time. As I said earlier, these film concerts are just fancy moviegoing experiences, really. I think that's why these things are so popular, i.e. people know and care about the movies, and they get a little "something extra" on top. Not "oh yes, I get to see the musicians play live to screen, so that I can better understand the nuts and bolts of film scoring, as if it were a recording session".
I think a better way to 'sell' the virtues of film music to newcomers, is to display it in all its musical glory, with exclusive focus on the musicians playing it, i.e. with regular themes and suites in typical concert form.
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Skyfall is being presented with a live orchestra in Melbourne (3-4 Apr 2020) and Sydney (22-23 Nov 2019).
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Aug 23, 2019 - 10:47 AM
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Bob DiMucci
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It seems to me that the whole idea of these concerts is to SEE the musicians playing the score--to make that connection between music "on the screen" and the actual humans that create it.
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The problem with that is that our brain doesn't work that way, unless you're film music geeks like us with a special conscious relationship to it. Cognitively -- as years of research has shown us -- we prioritze visuals over the aural, and when you have a story on top of that, the attention is inevitably drawn to the screen 90% of the time. As I said earlier, these film concerts are just fancy moviegoing experiences, really. I think that's why these things are so popular, i.e. people know and care about the movies, and they get a little "something extra" on top. Not "oh yes, I get to see the musicians play live to screen, so that I can better understand the nuts and bolts of film scoring, as if it were a recording session".
I think a better way to 'sell' the virtues of film music to newcomers, is to display it in all its musical glory, with exclusive focus on the musicians playing it, i.e. with regular themes and suites in typical concert form.
I don't disagree that score aficionados will get more out of the concert than your average moviegoer. My only point was that for the average moviegoer to even get the "something extra", you have to be able to see the musicians as opposed to hiding them in a pit. Otherwise, the orchestra should just sponsor a film series of movies with great scores and be done with it.
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