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LOG IN Forgot Login? Register General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board Search Terms:  Search Within:  topics posts since 2019 2018 posts 2017 posts 2016 posts 2015 posts 2014 posts 2013 posts 2012 posts 2011 posts 2010 posts 2009 posts 2008 posts 2007 posts 2006 posts 2005 posts 2004 posts 2003 posts 2002 posts 2001 posts 2000 posts users  search tips  You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5      General Discussion: Defective media/CD after a few years ..........    FIRST   PRIOR   1 2 3 4    NEXT   LAST   Last Post   Posted:   Sep 25, 2019 - 8:43 PM     By:   Wfmhorror   (Member) I think I spotted some of this on my copy of Poltergeist from FSM. As far as I can tell, It hasn't affected the sound yet (not that i can identify anyway) Getting a replacement would be useless correct? it will most likely happen to that one too? I did load it into iTunes awhile ago but like to listen to it on the surround sound once and awhile. when I spotted the ring(very faint), I quickly made an additional Apple lossless backup. Didn't know this was an issue. Now I am nervous.    Posted:   Sep 25, 2019 - 8:45 PM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) Back up your CDs and you won't have to worry about this. Use a lossless format and a decent ripping program like XLD.    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 2:37 AM     By:   Disco Stu   (Member) How lossless is lossless? Hardisks and backups are not void of (time related) decay either and have the added issue of "format decay" i.e. "this version of your OS cannot read this format anymore". So it's back to vinyl and cassette? Lord please no! D.S.    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 2:51 AM     By:   Chris Malone   (Member) CD is an amazingly robust consumer sound medium. The Eight to Fourteen Modulation (EFM) and Cross-Interleaved Reed-Solomon Code (CIRC) error detection and correction methodologies mean most errors can be detected and corrected without anyone ever noticing. That said, there’s just some poorly pressed CDs out there that time has been unkind to. A lot from the Philips and Dupont Optical (PDO) plant in the UK have suffered from ‘bronzing’ and may be unplayable now. But LaserDisc is a different story where many problems have occurred with disc readability (no error detection and correction as it’s actually analog video read by laser) and ‘rot’ due to poor manufacturing—I’m looking at you DADC, Terre Haute, Indiana! Chris    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 5:08 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) How lossless is lossless? Hardisks and backups are not void of (time related) decay either and have the added issue of "format decay" i.e. "this version of your OS cannot read this format anymore". So it's back to vinyl and cassette? Lord please no! D.S. No format is perfect. Each has is advantages and drawbacks. That's life. Also, if you use a better program like XLD, it will tell you if their were any problems with the rip, i.e., if the disc was damaged, or if it ripped without any errors.    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 6:20 AM     By:   TerraEpon   (Member) How lossless is lossless? Hardisks and backups are not void of (time related) decay either and have the added issue of "format decay" i.e. "this version of your OS cannot read this format anymore". So it's back to vinyl and cassette? Lord please no! D.S. If you seriously think that the FLAC (or even ALAC) will be inaccessible at any time in anyone on this board's lifetimes, I got a bridge over a river in Egypt to sell you.    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 7:08 AM     By:   OnyaBirri   (Member) If you seriously think that the FLAC (or even ALAC) will be inaccessible at any time in anyone on this board's lifetimes, I got a bridge over a river in Egypt to sell you. And if a popular format is no longer supported, there is money to be made in conversion software.    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 9:31 AM     By:   joec   (Member) I got two FSM cds which are dead. One is a cd from the box Goodbye Mr Chips (Didn't see that the title should be so ... true) and one cd from the box of Johnny Mandel. One Intrada, Rambo 3, first edition. A few of John Scott cds. And it is not only the oxydation effect. The fact is .... cd is not perfect, it happens sometimes A lossless backup is one answer (but don't forget to make a backup of the backup!). there WAS A MANUFACTURE defect with one of the CHIPS CDs (forget which one). Replacements were available for a while. Unfortunately for me I did not discover the defect until after the replacements were exhausted. SAE, from where I purchased, was no help. Apparently the cheap CD player I originally played CHIPS on did not detect the error. However I was able to copy the CD and at least I listen through to the end even though the last couple of minutes sound imperfect.    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 9:43 AM     By:   swoony   (Member) I am currently going through my soundtrack CDs to weed out CDs that I can get rid of and make mp3s of the collection, even the ones I'm keeping. The only CD so far that I have seen any aging damage is my Raise the Titanic CD from Silva. You can see the clouding of the silver. I can only download up to track 11 and then it can't find anything else. Thankfully it's available as a download on many sites so I can get the other tracks. I'm surprised I haven't run into more of these CDs.    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 10:12 AM     By:   Spymaster   (Member) How lossless is lossless? Hardisks and backups are not void of (time related) decay either and have the added issue of "format decay" i.e. "this version of your OS cannot read this format anymore". So it's back to vinyl and cassette? Lord please no! D.S. I've started backing mine up to lossless FLAC format and storing on a Synology NAS. The NAS automatically backs everything up to a second drive and also to Dropbox. So I think I'm covered from a data preservation standpoint :-)    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 6:57 PM     By:   Mr. Jack   (Member) Oh, what the fuck...now my disc #1 of Body Heat has the "electronic woodchipper" shit going on. That's one of my FAVORITE FILM SCORES EVER. Will I have to buy a new copy every five years? What IS this bullshit?!    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 7:07 PM     By:   Mr. Jack   (Member) Seriously, what the fuck? I take care of my shit, so why are my CDs starting to die? Media should last forever.    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 7:16 PM     By:   Mr. Jack   (Member) This is bullshit, it's absolute BULLSHIT.    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 7:49 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) A couple of years ago I imported my entire CD collection into iTunes as a back up. I need to catch up with my most recent purchases. I wonder if any of my older CD's have rotting issues?    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 7:53 PM     By:   Mr. Jack   (Member) I am not happy.    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 7:57 PM     By:   Mr. Jack   (Member) What irreplaceable CD is gonna randomly shit the bed next?    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 9:37 PM     By:   Mr. Jack   (Member) Would FSM replace a defective disc for an in-print title like Body Heat? Disc #2 seemed to be working fine in my set.    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 10:03 PM     By:   Michael Scorefan   (Member) Would FSM replace a defective disc for an in-print title like Body Heat? Disc #2 seemed to be working fine in my set. Sorry to hear about your problems with defective discs Mr. Jack. You ought to contact SAE regarding Body Heat. I recall there was some concern about some of the copies of Outland, and I thought Lukas assured us that defective discs would be replaced, even if they had been bought a while ago.    Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 11:20 PM     By:   Solium   (Member) Do we have a dedicated thread for defective and or rotting CD's? I would like to double check my stash. Are we talking mostly newer titles with inferior CD's (perhaps from a change in chemical composition) or very old CD's rotting over time? I briefly checked out some of the earliest CD's I recall purchasing and they all look fine.    Posted:   Sep 27, 2019 - 1:58 AM     By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member) To be honest, the only real answer to media decay is high definitition digital stored on multiple hard discs and copied to new hard discs from time to time. I agree with a previous poster, I expect a perfectly made CD to outlast me, but it only takes a minor defect undetectable at purchase time to start a rot that might not show up for years. I still prefer to buy a CD than to download, and I prefer to download than to rely on streaming services, where I have no guarantee of perpetuity at all. But I automatically rip my CDs lossless, and I have a main hard disc library, a backup hard disc library, and a Cloud copy library, and I replace my hard discs every few years. That's the best bet you'll ever have of insuring yourself against media decay, or indeed other risks such as fire, flood, burglary, whatever. Cheers     General Discussion: Defective media/CD after a few years ..........    << < 1 2 3 4  > >>  Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5   First Post    General Discussion • Trading Post • Non-Film Score Discussion  Profile • Preferences • Community Rules • Help/Contact • Search Board You must log in or register to post.   Go to page:  1 2 3 4 5

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