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 Posted:   Sep 24, 2019 - 4:48 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I also wonder if the liner notes will reveal who the L.A. cymbalom player was. I'd be surprised if it was Emil Richards, who can play anything percussive. He even played with Harry Partch; not too many session players can make that claim.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2019 - 5:02 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

If he did, it's not on his extensive list of credits:
http://emilrichards.net/biography/movies.php

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2019 - 7:12 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

I thought personal attacks weren't permitted. Zones?

Alittle late to start playing the victim. If only you had apologized for the joke at the start...


Apologize?!

For what.
To whom?


You could start for calling me "Whorely". just because I poked fun at your dumb joke. Seems you are the one who's humor impaired around here and the first to resort to personal attacks.. The problem being that you think you are hilarious when you are clearly not... as many have pointed out over and over. Low insults and misogyny, your usual stock in trade, are not humor.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2019 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   David Sones (Allardyce)   (Member)

BRM and all other arguing...stop please.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 2:52 AM   
 By:   Chris Malone   (Member)

What great luck for us John Barry fans. Can’t wait to hear it all—music from that magical period in John Barry’s career when he was at the top of his craft.

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 4:22 PM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

Damn. Two surreal Barry releases at the same time and all of it during a worldwide commercial war that has South American currency looking more and more like toy money.

What to do?

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 26, 2019 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Damn. Two surreal Barry releases at the same time and all of it during a worldwide commercial war that has South American currency looking more and more like toy money.

What to do?

Alex


Alex my friend, I'm very happy for you! What have you been up to?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2019 - 12:02 AM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)



Alex my friend, I'm very happy for you! What have you been up to?


Living the adult life, my friend!

Even though I rarely post here these days, I do try to keep up to date with releases of my favorite composers.

I'm also planning on writing more about film music (not only Barry), but this will have to wait a couple of months, if not years.

Boy, I can't imagine what life would be like if I had children!

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2019 - 6:18 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


Greetings, Alex - I Look forward to reading your memoirs!

Incidentally, nobody knows what life would be like with children, until they have them (and then it's too late big grin )

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2019 - 7:40 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

This is a pretty grim flick, makes River Kwai look like a picnic. It's very good but not something I'd re-watch any time soon. Not too much soundtrack music given the 2 hr. 15 minute runtime (observation, not criticism).

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 27, 2019 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   Alex Klein   (Member)

Greetings, Alex - I Look forward to reading your memoirs!

Incidentally, nobody knows what life would be like with children, until they have them (and then it's too late big grin )


LOL!

You're not doing a good job at convincing me to have them big grin.

Alex

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 4, 2019 - 5:36 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

I've often wondered if "Just As You Were" was meant to be a song. The title of the track and the melody seem to be matched for one but I've never heard or seen that it had a lyric.

James

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2019 - 8:56 AM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Got this yesterday and listened to it a few times already. I really like the sound of the original music as compared to the rerecording album. Glad I picked this one up.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2019 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   jonathan_little   (Member)

I vastly prefer the album presentation, but it is definitely interesting to hear both. It's quite a different experience.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2019 - 11:25 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I vastly prefer the album presentation, but it is definitely interesting to hear both. It's quite a different experience.

But would the album have worked in the film? It sounds like there are some significant differences between the two.

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2019 - 11:37 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Gosh, no the album and the film score are two completely separate things, in this case.

The score in the film is dramatically perfect, but it is necessarily low in tone and limited in movement.

It never lifts off, musically.

It never starts to swing, twirl or dance—and that makes it dry as 'listening' music.

The album is cleverly conceived.

I love the way it takes a selection of music from the score but expands it, and inserts versions of the theme that add the movement necessarily missing in the film score.

It transforms a grim dramatic score into a nice album that contains both the drama and the swing.

To that extent, I must concur that the King Rat album is a superior listening experience to the film score.

BUT: it is fascinating to experience the score purely as it was in the film and I wouldn't pass on it ever.

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2019 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

When I first listened to the more upbeat and dramatic pieces I was puzzled. I couldn't figure out how they fit into the film unless they were for flashbacks of the characters.
Only aftweer rewatching the film did I realize Barry was doing a ' variations on a theme' LP only arrangements.

Same thing was done for IPCRESS.

It was a great concept imho.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2019 - 12:53 PM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Seems fraudulent to label the album "Original Sound Track Recording" instead of "Inspired By the Soundtrack," unless some tracks were original. Yes, I know, it's what they did back then, like Mancini's "Experiment in Terror" album which has some different music than the OST. It doesnt stop people from believing the cover and thinking it's the OST.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 5, 2019 - 5:44 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

Just played the score portion of King Rat ("There's a Stereo In My Study") and what a wonder. One of the things I've always loved about Barry was that he always had a clear vision as to who he was and what he wanted to be. In 1965, with a #1 album on the charts, two recent scores showcasing opposite sides of 60s London (swinging The Knack and cold-war The Ipcress File), another Bond score in the works, plus a looming deal with Columbia Records coming up, Barry scores this low-key prisoner of war black and white drama and eschews the temptation to "liven it up" with either period big band swing or catchy military marches, as in The Great Escape or Bridge on the River Kwai. In 1965 Barry could have ridden his Bond reputation and scored countless spy and detective flicks, rat pack films, anything calling for a big brassy sound and turned that Columbia deal into a license to turn everything into a commercial jazz/pop/orchestral blend. He had the confidance and vision to not only score films like King Rat but score them in probably more of a downbeat fashion than anyone would have.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 8, 2019 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   mortenbond   (Member)

Listening to the new King Rat by Intrada now. The re-recording was not an instant love for me, but about 20 years ago I fell totally in love with it.

The actual score tracks now released are very, very interesting. Much of the same thematic material, but edgier, with great Bond brass from time to time, and that acoustic guitar underplaying several cues, just like in some of the Goldfinger tracks. Quite strange to hear such a blend of Goldfinger and Thunderball/Ipcress File. And that great Barry timpani!

Love this release! Bring on more Barry!

 
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