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 Posted:   Dec 1, 2019 - 7:25 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Like I posted previously 4 major western films and their scores are the headliners in this set. A large percentage of those films left out (see above titles) are films that were the second feature back in the 50's and 60 's

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2019 - 7:37 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

There a link to this? I can't find it at the LLL site.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2019 - 8:13 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

There a link to this? I can't find it at the LLL site.


Not available for ordering until 12/3 starting at 12 noon (pst).

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2019 - 8:29 PM   
 By:   fortyone   (Member)

This whole set has me intrigued, as I'm only familiar with Waxman's terrific music for THE FURIES; that alone will be worth it. But I'm looking forward to hearing the rest for the first time.

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2019 - 8:30 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

There a link to this? I can't find it at the LLL site.


Not available for ordering until 12/3 starting at 12 noon (pst).


Ah.

 
 Posted:   Dec 1, 2019 - 9:39 PM   
 By:   Ray Worley   (Member)

I am thrilled beyond words at this magnificent set. It's easily the release of the year (for me). Waxman's FURIES is one of his most dynamic and exciting scores. So happy to get this since all we've had before are a couple of suites. As for EL DORADO, we are finally (finally!) getting the wonderful film version of the title song. I've always considered it one of the best Western songs and the choral version on the LP was insipid at best. The film vocal by George Alexander is terrific and much under-appreciated. I'm really looking forward to hearing the actual film score as well, since the LP is a re-recording to appeal to more "pop" sensibilities. Same for WILL PENNY,,,although I think the LP had some actual film cues, it's missing a lot.
So although most of the excitement has been centered around NEVADA SMITH (yes, a terrific Newman score...doesn't get much better than a Newman Western), there is a tremendous value here for the money.
I don't know the other scores very well (or at all in some cases), but how wrong can you go with Young, Amfitheatrof, Webb, Sukman, etc. There's got to be some gems there.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2019 - 1:42 AM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

I am thrilled beyond words at this magnificent set. It's easily the release of the year (for me). Waxman's FURIES is one of his most dynamic and exciting scores. So happy to get this since all we've had before are a couple of suites. As for EL DORADO, we are finally (finally!) getting the wonderful film version of the title song. I've always considered it one of the best Western songs and the choral version on the LP was insipid at best. The film vocal by George Alexander is terrific and much under-appreciated. I'm really looking forward to hearing the actual film score as well, since the LP is a re-recording to appeal to more "pop" sensibilities. Same for WILL PENNY,,,although I think the LP had some actual film cues, it's missing a lot.
So although most of the excitement has been centered around NEVADA SMITH (yes, a terrific Newman score...doesn't get much better than a Newman Western), there is a tremendous value here for the money.
I don't know the other scores very well (or at all in some cases), but how wrong can you go with Young, Amfitheatrof, Webb, Sukman, etc. There's got to be some gems there.


Having a legitimate NEVADA SMITH, a Franz Waxman exciting western score that I thought was "lost"...THE FURIES, and George Alexander's voice singing the title tune for ELDORADO makes this set the best release of the year.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2019 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   PFK   (Member)

I am thrilled beyond words at this magnificent set. It's easily the release of the year (for me). Waxman's FURIES is one of his most dynamic and exciting scores. So happy to get this since all we've had before are a couple of suites. As for EL DORADO, we are finally (finally!) getting the wonderful film version of the title song. I've always considered it one of the best Western songs and the choral version on the LP was insipid at best. The film vocal by George Alexander is terrific and much under-appreciated. I'm really looking forward to hearing the actual film score as well, since the LP is a re-recording to appeal to more "pop" sensibilities. Same for WILL PENNY,,,although I think the LP had some actual film cues, it's missing a lot.
So although most of the excitement has been centered around NEVADA SMITH (yes, a terrific Newman score...doesn't get much better than a Newman Western), there is a tremendous value here for the money.
I don't know the other scores very well (or at all in some cases), but how wrong can you go with Young, Amfitheatrof, Webb, Sukman, etc. There's got to be some gems there.


Having a legitimate NEVADA SMITH, a Franz Waxman exciting western score that I thought was "lost"...THE FURIES, and George Alexander's voice singing the title tune for ELDORADO makes this set the best release of the year.





I agree with your comments guys. I'm VERY excited about this surprise release! Yes, great to get the Newman, Waxman, Riddle and Raksin. But also the Webb, Sukman, Scharf, Amfitheatrof and ..... Victor Young!!!

Never saw STREETS OF LAREDO ..... but it's VICTOR YOUNG!

I've wanted Waxman's The Furies for 55 years! Nearly as long for Newman's Nevada Smith!

The El Dorado LP is very "pop" as mentioned, anxious to hear the soundtrack. George Alexander sings the title song just perfect!

And .... the tracks to Nevada Smith ..... yikes!

Thanks again MV and LLL !!! smile

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2019 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

For my money this is the greatest box set (Golden Age or otherwise) since Intrada's amazing 4 disc Waxman set a couple winters ago!

Such variety in both (and 11 scores in each!)

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2019 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   panphoto   (Member)

Newman, Waxman, Raksin and Young! Aside from the dreadful cover what is not to like? I will have to scan my Nevada Smith LP for something tasteful - I guess the original artwork couldn't be licensed. But hell, well done LLL!

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2019 - 11:17 AM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

Newman, Waxman, Raksin and Young! Aside from the dreadful cover what is not to like? I will have to scan my Nevada Smith LP for something tasteful - I guess the original artwork couldn't be licensed. But hell, well done LLL!


I can only assume that everyone is so overjoyed by the superb music content, the dire cover is of little consequence. But the awful cover for the Koch release of The Magnificent Seven conducted by James Sedares (a fine recording) still holds the title of Worst-Ever Western CD Cover.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2019 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I guess I don't understand what is so "dire" about this western collection cover. Though it's not a Jim Titus design or anything, I think it's a nice image and decently well laid out. On sets like this and the Waxman and Film Noir at Paramount sets from Intrada, talented people here on this very board have made great custom covers for us for each individual score. I can't wait to find out what folks come up with on the Custom Cover Art (II) thread:
https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=132899&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=30&r=419#bottom

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2019 - 11:27 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I can only assume that everyone is so overjoyed by the superb music content, the dire cover is of little consequence. But the awful cover for the Koch release of The Magnificent Seven conducted by James Sedares still holds the title of Worst-Ever Western CD Cover.

Hmmm...



Now I love FSM and Intrada (and Joe Sikoryak) but I would maybe submit these as hefty competition:





Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2019 - 11:46 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I guess I don't understand what is so "dire" about this western collection cover.
Yavar


Probably because it's little more than the Paramount trademark mountain.wink The generic appearance may seem uninspired, but not dire. I don't mind that they didn't use movie artifacts from all the films, since there are too many to be represented in a small space. I like the colors and overall effect. More like a painting.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2019 - 11:57 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Agreed.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2019 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)

I guess I don't understand what is so "dire" about this western collection cover.



Having more than FIFTY words of text crammed in doesn't help.
It looks more like a publicity/information piece, rather than a cover design.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2019 - 12:03 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

It's probably cheaper and takes fewer sign offs, which means it can get approved faster, so that's all good in my book.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2019 - 12:13 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Having more than FIFTY words of text crammed in doesn't help.
It looks more like a publicity/information piece, rather than a cover design.


But IMO the text doesn't feel "crammed", but is nicely placed on the image. The only way to have less text on the cover would be to omit the titles and/or composers, which I'm not sure I would prefer, personally.

Compare with the three similar FSM western box sets, which each covered less than half as many scores (4-5 instead of 11!) but IMO don't feel particularly less cluttered (or as simple) as this LLL cover, which I find more attractive (though I don't dislike the FSMs by any means)...







Yavar

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2019 - 12:35 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)


Compare with the three similar FSM western box sets, which each covered less than half as many scores (4-5 instead of 11!) but IMO don't feel particularly less cluttered (or as simple) as this LLL cover, which I find more attractive (though I don't dislike the FSMs by any means)...




IF we were talking about these LLL sets being widely available in stores like the old Tower Records, there would be a good chance people thumbing through the shelves would be seeing or hearing about the set for the first time, so there would be some logic to giving them as much instant info on the cover as possible, to tempt them.
But that is not the case here.
Everyone will already know exactly what is in this set when they buy it. When it arrives in the mail, it does not need to have a cover that lists everything. All it needs is to look good.
Anyway, that's all from me on the subject. I doubt most folks care one way or the other. I don't. I rip all my music and never handle or look at the original CD package again. The upcoming set is a treasure whatever the cover looks like.
And for all I know, I suppose there might sometimes be a contractual obligation to list all the titles and composers on the cover.

 
 Posted:   Dec 2, 2019 - 3:44 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Everyone will already know exactly what is in this set when they buy it. When it arrives in the mail, it does not need to have a cover that lists everything. All it needs is to look good.

Fair point.

And for all I know, I suppose there might sometimes be a contractual obligation to list all the titles and composers on the cover.

I suspect you are correct in that speculation. smile

Anyway, that's all from me on the subject. I doubt most folks care one way or the other. I don't. I rip all my music and never handle or look at the original CD package again. The upcoming set is a treasure whatever the cover looks like.

Agreed. I'm like you for the most part. I rip to iTunes and separate into individual score albums, which is why the custom cover art guys are so great. I do bring out the original CD package for reading the liner notes, of course...

Yavar

 
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