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I might have to do a Goldsmith radio scores thread one day... If you are interested let me know your email address and I'll share the Goldsmith Odyssey's complete radio collection with you. Here's a list of what we've got, most in higher quality audio than can be found online (and a few of these aren't online anywhere): https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1oEoMMpjbLNU86M2okPF2tS5a3EV3LvdbUYNjoWT6kEM/edit?usp=sharing Some of his radio scores aren't much to write home about, but several of them are quite excellent, with 1489 Words being IMO one of his greatest works! I'm thinking about how few people responded to the THRILLER threads... Well those are a surprisingly rich and varied bunch of scores to digest. I would just remind you that Tadlow's first volume of Thriller sold above expectations, which is why a Volume 2 even happened! Yavar
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The title themes for many of these shows were quite good - Moross and Rose esp. had a knack for memorable main themes. But, I cant remember any underscore! fyi Herrmann was tracked in a lot of these shows, ya know
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Naw. With multiple Williams AND Goldsmith scores for the show (to say nothing of several other popular composers), no WAY it only sells 100 copies. These composers carry show releases like this. Yavar I would certainly purchase a Wagon Train box set, and the same goes for Rawhide, Gunsmoke, Have Gun Will Travel, Bonanza, Riverboat, The Big Valley, classic western TV shows all! I agree Niall. All of those series would make terrific box sets. I'm surprised this has not been done. I think LLL's THE WILD WILD WEST sold out quickly. The TV westerns you mentioned had terrific scores. Maybe from LLL? Intrada? Kritzerland? SAE? Quartet? Music Box? etc. Yavar, the expertise, 'can do' attitude, and sheer tenacity of the wonderful people connected with all those great labels you mention never ceases to amaze me! After the appearance of the recent Max Steiner set and now the fabulous Paramount Westerns release I am starting to really believe that anything is possible! I am always hopeful, so fingers crossed that future circumstances will enable the various labels to keep on going great things!
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And, to too my own horn, I have threads where I've covered "Gunsmoke" (sans Klatzkin efforts) and all credited scores on "Rawhide". And picture place holders for future western TV series threads...
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Naw. With multiple Williams AND Goldsmith scores for the show (to say nothing of several other popular composers), no WAY it only sells 100 copies. These composers carry show releases like this. Yavar I would certainly purchase a Wagon Train box set, and the same goes for Rawhide, Gunsmoke, Have Gun Will Travel, Bonanza, Riverboat, The Big Valley, classic western TV shows all! I agree Niall. All of those series would make terrific box sets. I'm surprised this has not been done. I think LLL's THE WILD WILD WEST sold out quickly. The TV westerns you mentioned had terrific scores. Maybe from LLL? Intrada? Kritzerland? SAE? Quartet? Music Box? etc. Yavar, the expertise, 'can do' attitude, and sheer tenacity of the wonderful people connected with all those great labels you mention never ceases to amaze me! After the appearance of the recent Max Steiner set and now the fabulous Paramount Westerns release I am starting to really believe that anything is possible! I am always hopeful, so fingers crossed that future circumstances will enable the various labels to keep on going great things! Are these shows shown in Ireland? Popular?
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Yer just makin' me long for a set more and more with these, Justin. I hope one happens, eventually. I want more Roy Webb western music after that great bit of Branded we got on the LLL Paramount westerns set! Yavar
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Great, isn't it? Imagine just walking up to where your Cd's are, seeing volume sets of scoring from all kinds of TV shows, and just putting the music on and having a really good day.
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Continuing SEASON 3:
"The Clayton Tucker Story" By: Ernest Gold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhOZBREVL3E Highlights: 9:06 in. 12:41 in. 16:07 in. 20:14 in. 23:59 in. 25:03 in. 31:13 in. 35:00 in. 37:50 in. 40:04 in. 44:39 in. 46:56 in. 50:09 in. 53:05 in. 56:45 in. A lot of bleak material. "The Benjamin Burns Story" By: Van Cleave https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8-y7zlag9s Highlights: 13:09 in. 15:44 in. 20:45 in. 22:40 in. 29:31 in. 30:42 in. 33:40 in. 35:17 in. 39:07/42:39 in. 49:21 in. "The Ricky and Laurie Bell Story" By: Nathan Scott https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHRjRUXoEmM Highlights: 6:15 in. Joining a cue already in progress. 12:55 in. Some light whimsy. 12:50 in. Including some music for the emotionally disturbed. 21:15 in. 25:41 in. About 29:30 in. 31:59 in. 34:16 in. 36:14 in. 43:04 in. 45:49 in. Over four minutes long. 51:24 in. 56:25 in. "The Tom Tuckett Story" By: Alexander Courage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXjMNYgS754 This is the final effort for the series by Courage. Highlights: 12:46 in. Including Indian music. 29:29 in. 31:26 in. 32:57 in. 40:46 in. 41:47 in. 45:54 in. 53:19 in. 55:24 in. Another over all disappointing effort by Courage. I'm glad he's not coming back for the series again. On a set of season three scoring, I'd not include much from this, just to make room for better material from previous episode scores. "The Tracy Sadler Story" By: Leigh Harline https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx2mTfxNHb4 This is the only effort for the series by Harline. Highlights: 5:15 in. 27:13 in. 29:16 in. 40:09 in. 41:24 in. About 48:10 in. 51:48 in. 53:33 in. There's not as much score in this episode as others before it, so don't let the lesser amount of cited tracks fool you. "The Alexander Portlass Story" By: Ernest Gold https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZEkDMK2-IE This is the final effort for the series by Gold. Highlights: About 2:00 in. 3:27 in. 23:10 in. 27:34 in. And the cue after the commercial break. 29:21 in. 35:49 in. 45:27 in. 50:54 in. 54:19 in. Guest-starring Peter Lorre. "The Christine Elliott Story" By: Roy Webb https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6n5o44 (load volume) Highlights: 0:00 in. 2:50 in. About 5:10 in. 9:25 in. 10:40 in. 14:23 in. 17:12 in. 20:16 in. 22:08 in. 26:51 in. 28:21 in. 29:25 in. Short outtro cue. And the cue after the commercial break. 31:15 in. 32:06 in. 32:42 in. 33:50 in. 37:25 in. 39:10 in. 41:33 in. 45:40 in. 47:57 in. That's nearly every single cue. "The Joshua Gilliam Story" By: Henri Rene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThG6PXTf-bA This is the final effort for the series by Rene. And according to his IMDb page, this is the second-to-last thing he scored -- he has a short scoring career. Highlights: 0:00 in. 2:00 in. 6:08 in. 17:35 in. 22:56 in. 29:00/30:01 in. Now that's how a "Witch" cooking at night should be scored. 33:51 in. 37:39 in. 44:36 in. 46:42 in. 49:40 in. Over four minutes of quiet suspense music. 54:59 in. Two episodes where the guest star is a teacher, in a row. (40:55) "Maggie Hamilton Story" Music Score: Roy Webb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NU9O1M6m08s This is not only the final effort for the series by Webb, but it's his final scoring credit according to his IMDb resume. And it wasn't death that stopped him, as he died about two decades later. No Music Department credits continuing after that either, he just plumb ended his career apparently. I'm sure somebody here knows why, 'cause there's always somebody who knows this stuff. Highlights: 0:00 in. 1:05 in. 3:40 in. 10:33 in. 13:18 in. 16:46 in. 21:50 in. 23:32 in. About 32:25 in. And the cue after the commercial break. Just over seven minutes long, both cue times combined. 41:23 in. 42:21 in. 46:10 in. 49:32 in. Just over two minutes long. 53:30 in. 54:20 in. 55:54 in. "The Jonas Murdock Story" By: Nathan Scott https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZW4XQofdBOI Highlights: 0:00 in. 3:34 in. 9:40 in. 10:54 in. 13:02 in. 17:07 in. 18:28 in. 20:10 in. 23:27 in. Five minutes long. 29:30 in. 30:22 in. 31:55 in. And the cue after the commercial break. 44:05 in. 45:00 in. 48:42 in. I'll finish season three tomorrow.
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Finishing SEASON 3:
I'm having to make some corrections here. I was going by the composer credits on IMDb, and some idiot keeps submitting main original score credits to the Music Department instead of Composers where it belongs (I'm having to fix this way too often!), so it turns out composers I said in the last batch or two had done their final efforts, had NOT. I remember a year or two ago I submitted and corrected entries for "87th Precinct", completing it on IMDb for the composers. Then some idiot came in, deleted all the composer credits, and put them in the Music Department. Spent like an hour fixing that bullshit. Ignore the video titles -- some videos are mis-labeled. "The Amos Gibbon Story" By: Jerome Moross https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blBzBNuXiX0 Highlights: 0:00 in. 2:22 in. 10:34 in. 15:18 in. 20:55 in. 32:24 in. 56:18 in. On a set of season three scoring, I'm not sure how much of this episode score I'd include. "Trial for Murder: Part 1" By: Jerome Moross https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80Rq-AgwEVU Highlights: 0:00 in. 1:22 in. 6:15 in. 9:13 in. 16:46 in. Continues after the commercial break. 25:01 in. 32:27 in. 35:42 in. 56:36 in. I think that was every cue, unless while skimming I missed some brief pieces. Moody emotional score with solo electric cello and pronounced timpani work. All the cues can probably be arranged and edited together into a suite without it being noticeable. "Trial for Murder: Part 2" By: Jerome Moross https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYecsBZU38A Highlights: 1:51 in. 3:47 in. 43:02 in. 54:00 in. 56:46 in. Part 2 was largely unscored. "The Countess Baranof Story" By: Alexander Courage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8eXTd9LGeeQ Highlights: 0:00 in. 1:29 in. 2:09 in. 5:57 in. 17:21 in. 21:28 in. 25:26 in. 27:38 in. 33:58 in. 40:00 in. 46:51 in. 51:28 in. 52:30 in. 56:45 in. On a set of season three scoring, I'm not sure how much of this episode score I'd include. "The Dick Jarvis Story" By: Jack Hayes and Leo Shuken https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMLx3hXVbIQ Highlights: 1:48 in. 3:13 in. 4:13 in. 15:10 in. Short playful material. 16:57 in. And the cue after the commercial break. 18:35 in. 22:16 in. 26:58 in. 28:04 in. 30:30 in. 37:20 in. 39:31 in. 48:20 in. 51:01/52:51 in. 54:42 in. "Dr. Swift Cloud" By: Jack Hayes and Leo Shuken https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfbZ9q1Za6M Highlights: 0:00 in. 1:32 in. Including Indian attack music. 12:13 in. 21:04 in. 43:32 in. 51:31 in. I swear I've covered this episode before; maybe earlier and it was mis-labeled. On a set of season three scoring, I'm not sure how much of this episode score I'd include. "The Luke Grant Story" By: Jack Hayes and Leo Shuken https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-swZ7HOV-c Highlights: 0:00 in. 1:38 in. 8:18 in. 11:46 in. 19:17 in. 35:15 in. 39:27 in. About 40:30 in. 44:54 in. 51:15 in. "The Charlene Brenton Story" By: Alexander Courage https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5TzPFevJMQ Okay, THIS should be Courage's final effort for the series. Highlights: 0:00 in. 0:50 in. 1:38 in. 2:17 in. 9:20 in. 11:29 in. 12:55 in. 17:19 in. 21:12 in. 28:30 in. 30:05 in. 33:47 in. 34:30 in. 39:21 in. 42:53 in. 48:47 in. 49:25 in. 55:25 in. "The Sam Livingston Story" By: Leigh Harline https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ianqpqgfuQ All right, THIS should be Harline's final effort for the series. Highlights: 0:00/1:00 in. 6:27 in. 7:27 in. 9:34 in. 21:03 in. 22:50 in. 32:45 in. 44:24 in. 46:16 in. NOTE: For some reason the final episode of the season is the only episode this season to not have a composer credited ("The Shadrack Bennington Story").
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Continuing SEASON 4:
"The Jeremy Dow Story" By: David Buttolph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsP0AMbbCEE Highlights: 1:20 in. 4:56 in. 16:58 in. 18:06 in. About 36:40 in. 40:44 in. 46:23 in. 48:38 in. "The Earl Packer Story" By: Nathan Scott https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_7XlmZwb3Q Highlights: 15:39 in. 18:35 in. 25:16 in. And the cue after the commercial break. 35:21 in. 37:29 in. "The Patience Miller Story" By: Richard Shores https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysMTaen_ASs Highlights: 28:11 in. 32:07 in. 39:48 in. Joining a cue already in progress. 42:45 in. About 45:00 in. 48:10 in. I'll admit I haven't paid attention every time, but this appears to be a first: at the start of the end credits where the director is credited, this time the director's name isn't in the same font like normal, it looks like the guy's signature. "The Sam Elder Story" By: Stanley Wilson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5OTpxAonZU Highlights: 0:43 in. 1:36 in. 2:55 in. 6:54 in. 10:33 in. 19:40 in. 21:48 in. Instrumental arrangement of Battle Hymn of the Republic. 27:37 in. Also includes an instrumental arrangement of Battle Hymn of the Republic. 31:36 in. 34:35 in. 36:30 in. 39:02 in. 43:42 in. 45:55 in. 53:47 in. Wilson was really churnin' out one good cue after another on this one. "I wonder what he's got against billygoats?" "Weight of Command" By: Richard Shores https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEX8f-0rNUg Highlights: 2:08 in. 15:13 in. 18:30 in. Joining a cue already in progress. 20:55 in. About 30:20 in. 35:29 in. 40:58 in. 47:50 in. 53:05 in. NO LOAD FOUND. "The Prairie Story" By: Stanley Wilson "Path of the Serpent" By: David Buttolph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0uo-7x2B28 Highlights: 1:48 in. 5:10 in. 12:33 in. 43:08 in. 47:10 in. 53:56 in. 54:44 in. "The Odyssey of Flint McCullough" By: Stanley Wilson https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoddChdyk4k Highlights: 0:00 in. 1:38 in. 9:01 in. 12:26 in. 15:04 in. A bit shy of four minutes. 20:44 in. 26:07 in. 33:28 in. 36:09 in. 37:20 in. 39:30 in. 43:53 in. 46:59 in. 52:37 in. "The Beth Pearson Story" By: Richard Shores https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC0v3V4HFWI (muffled sound, even more mono sounding than usual) Highlights: 1:51 in. 5:23 in. 19:59 in. About 21:20 in. 46:32 in. 49:13 in. 52:35 in. 55:25 in. Charlie: "Don't'cha worry about me, I know when to keep my mouth shut." "Huh -- that'll be the day."
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I have added the rest. Picks up at "The Joe Muharich Story". Also included in the rest: one Jerry Goldsmith score.
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Long before "Mulan", Jerry did an Eastern-flavored score. He did a few before this one, even! We covered "The Case of the Blushing Pearls", a superb score for Perry Mason, here on The Goldsmith Odyssey: http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/685496-episode-4-perry-mason-1959 There's even a motif that sounds like Mulan a bit. Love Jerry in far eastern mode! Looking forward to your thoughts on Jerry's second score for Wagon Train later, since it's one I'm wholly unfamiliar with! Yavar
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Did you notice how he juxtaposed the musical west and east in one to three cues by using a small part of Hoedown (Aaron Copeland)? Far beyond not just musically, but idea wise than a composer had to contribute to even service the episode.
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