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 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 6:03 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

I'm happy with my.Ryko
Thanks!



By all means, stay happy with it--the RYKO's are a quality product.
With modern remastering trends being what they are, the day will come that the RYKO's become highly sought-after, too.
Then the highly vocal anti-RYKO squad will have to eat crow.


Didn't Bowie personally oversee those reissues?

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 7:27 PM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

Didn't Bowie personally oversee those reissues?


I don't recall reading anything to indicate that over the years. But I could be wrong.
As I understand it, Bowie personally supplied some of the bonus rarities for the late '70's albums--but that was about it. The Mainman company had control and ownership of pretty much everything else (and his animosity towards that organization which, admittedly, help make him a star, is the stuff of legend).
But apart from that, he wasn't known to be very involved in the reissue program.
When he was shopping his back catalogue around, RYKO put together such an attentive and enthusiastic offer that he felt it was in good hands.
He was reported to be very pleased with the remastering.

At the time the RYKO's came out, he was busy with Tin Machine and suspended those activities to do the Sound And Vision Tour to promote the reissues. When that was done he went back to more Tin Machine stuff.

ETA: Man, when I look back on this it's really sad what a Bowie geek I am. :O

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 9:28 PM   
 By:   Trent B   (Member)

It is stupid that OOP CDs are going for such ridiculous prices. I will admit the only time I paid $100 was for the Varèse release of Predator. Other than that I most likely wouldn't do it again.

I mean $100+ for an OOP release as I said is just ridiculous and A LOT of people won't consider paying that much. I still have rips of all my CDs that I sold...well I have acquire a few new ones since selling my original collection but ya...

If I decide to get the physical releases of just my favorites, which includes the LLL release for Independence Day I'll have to really ponder about paying $100 for it.

 
 Posted:   Dec 17, 2019 - 10:14 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I'm happy with my.Ryko
Thanks!


It's Reylo you idiot!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2019 - 9:57 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I'm happy with my.Ryko
Thanks!


It's Reylo you idiot!


It's Psycho, you nincompoop!

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2019 - 7:46 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

The BLACK hole
$200 on Amazon

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2019 - 8:14 PM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

Anyone who would spend $100+ on an OOP CD is a fool, because the majority of OOP scores will just get re-issued by one of the other soundtrack labels eventually.

 
 Posted:   Dec 18, 2019 - 8:17 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Anyone who would spend $100+ on an OOP CD is a fool, because the majority of OOP scores will just get re-issued by one of the other soundtrack labels eventually.

Don't tell me, tell Octo!

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2019 - 4:11 AM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

It is stupid that OOP CDs are going for such ridiculous prices. I will admit the only time I paid $100 was for the Varèse release of Predator. Other than that I most likely wouldn't do it again.

I mean $100+ for an OOP release as I said is just ridiculous and A LOT of people won't consider paying that much. I still have rips of all my CDs that I sold...well I have acquire a few new ones since selling my original collection but ya...

If I decide to get the physical releases of just my favorites, which includes the LLL release for Independence Day I'll have to really ponder about paying $100 for it.


Supply and demand, baby.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2019 - 8:21 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I'd like to see the factsheet showing that "the majority" of out-of-print soundtrack cds have been re-issued. Otherwise I don't see how anyone in their right mind can predict the majority will get re-issued.

 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2019 - 8:36 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

It is stupid that OOP CDs are going for such ridiculous prices. I will admit the only time I paid $100 was for the Varèse release of Predator. Other than that I most likely wouldn't do it again.

I mean $100+ for an OOP release as I said is just ridiculous and A LOT of people won't consider paying that much. I still have rips of all my CDs that I sold...well I have acquire a few new ones since selling my original collection but ya...

If I decide to get the physical releases of just my favorites, which includes the LLL release for Independence Day I'll have to really ponder about paying $100 for it.


Supply and demand, baby.


I would call it artificial inflation. Supply and demand would imply those are the going rates for the product. Meaning it moves at that price. I believe most of these listings sit in limbo for a very long time unsold.

 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2019 - 8:50 AM   
 By:   Mr. Jack   (Member)

I'd like to see the factsheet showing that "the majority" of out-of-print soundtrack cds have been re-issued. Otherwise I don't see how anyone in their right mind can predict the majority will get re-issued.

A bit exaggerated, but the "big" scores by major composers will always find a way back into print. I just wonder what that guy who infamously laid down $2,500(!) for the original Varese Club release of Cherry 2000 thought when that score got reissued twice (by Prometheus and Intrada). NO score is worth that.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2019 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

Maybe he thought "2000" in "Cherry 2000" was the original price, so $2500 seemed like a reasonable mark-up.

 
 Posted:   Dec 19, 2019 - 9:07 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

There have been plenty of occasions when I've found FSM and LLL CD's in my local used shops.
I couldn't believe my luck.
For normal prices, yet.
I always wondered why someone would go through the trouble of getting them, only to get rid of them.
Not financial hardship, I hope.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2019 - 5:23 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)


I always wondered why someone would go through the trouble of getting them, only to get rid of them.
Not financial hardship, I hope.


I've had 100s of CDs over the years I just didn't want any more, even if you don't count getting a replacement. Either I just decided I didn't like it as much, didn't like it at all (because I didn't pay attention to sound samples...or whatever), etc etc...
Of course there's always the possibility of owner existence failure as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2019 - 5:39 AM   
 By:   TJ   (Member)

It is stupid that OOP CDs are going for such ridiculous prices. I will admit the only time I paid $100 was for the Varèse release of Predator. Other than that I most likely wouldn't do it again.

I mean $100+ for an OOP release as I said is just ridiculous and A LOT of people won't consider paying that much. I still have rips of all my CDs that I sold...well I have acquire a few new ones since selling my original collection but ya...

If I decide to get the physical releases of just my favorites, which includes the LLL release for Independence Day I'll have to really ponder about paying $100 for it.


Supply and demand, baby.


I would call it artificial inflation. Supply and demand would imply those are the going rates for the product. Meaning it moves at that price. I believe most of these listings sit in limbo for a very long time unsold.


It must move at that price, unless the sellers do not care that it doesn't sell.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2019 - 6:48 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

I would call it artificial inflation. Supply and demand would imply those are the going rates for the product. Meaning it moves at that price. I believe most of these listings sit in limbo for a very long time unsold.

It must move at that price, unless the sellers do not care that it doesn't sell.


They don't care, and they try to create an auction-like market by setting the bar too high. There's a seller on Amazon who often lists new releases at $100 as "collectible." There's an ebay seller (a member here who lists in the Trade forum) who lists new releases as "Rare out-of-print soundtrack!" with at least double the retail price. His justification in misleading the viewer is that these are limited releases and are automatically OOP when they debut, although "rare" is indefensible.

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2019 - 7:34 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

It is stupid that OOP CDs are going for such ridiculous prices. I will admit the only time I paid $100 was for the Varèse release of Predator. Other than that I most likely wouldn't do it again.

I mean $100+ for an OOP release as I said is just ridiculous and A LOT of people won't consider paying that much. I still have rips of all my CDs that I sold...well I have acquire a few new ones since selling my original collection but ya...

If I decide to get the physical releases of just my favorites, which includes the LLL release for Independence Day I'll have to really ponder about paying $100 for it.


Supply and demand, baby.


I would call it artificial inflation. Supply and demand would imply those are the going rates for the product. Meaning it moves at that price. I believe most of these listings sit in limbo for a very long time unsold.


It must move at that price, unless the sellers do not care that it doesn't sell.


There's always the odd ball, the sucker or someone so desperate for a score they'll pay extraordinary prices for it. But I think most go unsold.

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2019 - 7:36 AM   
 By:   funkymonkeyjavajunky   (Member)

"Howard the Duck" (Intrada) was released as 'available while quantities and interest remain'. It went out of stock within weeks, and is now 'Temporarily out of Stock'. The handful of copies for sale on secondary market are ridiculously overpriced. But some titles have been available for a long time (Return to Oz, Shogun, etc.) and are only now going out of stock. The Black Hole was available for a long time. Was Howard the Duck underproduced? Very popular? Why is it gone?

 
 Posted:   Dec 20, 2019 - 7:37 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

There have been plenty of occasions when I've found FSM and LLL CD's in my local used shops.
I couldn't believe my luck.
For normal prices, yet.
I always wondered why someone would go through the trouble of getting them, only to get rid of them.
Not financial hardship, I hope.


I call that a product of death. Surviving family members having no interest in their loved ones score collection so they dump them at their local used CD shop or Goodwill store.

 
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