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 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 7:03 AM   
 By:   Lewis&Clark   (Member)

Here's hope for Williams get the Oscar. Love his score for Skywalker, easily the best of the year except for GODZILLA KING OF THE MONSTERS wink

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 7:14 AM   
 By:   First Breath   (Member)

Hoping for Thomas N.

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   PollyAnna   (Member)

Newman's score is a bit better than the "same old stuff" but It is definitely more effective within the movie. No disrespect to Hildur but you know the academy will plump for Joker whether it's good or bad.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

And surprisingly the most predictable list ever.
with only one half-decent score on the list.


Agreed.


I wonder about the intellectual underpinning of these criticisms. Would you gentlemen accept the premise that a film score's purpose is to enhance the cinema experience and not to provide a "soundtrack album" for our listening pleasure? Ergo that the album is ultimately irrelevant to one's evaluation of the score?

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 8:26 AM   
 By:   Zeno Cosini3   (Member)

The best score in 2019 was for JOKER. The Williams score wasn't really good....

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 8:59 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I think it's gotten to be more of the 'name' value even more now with Oscar.
If John Williams writes a film score, it's pretty much a given he will get an Oscar nomination.
Alexandre Desplat and Thomas Newman have pretty much entered that zone too.
And we all know it's generally been the film it's attached to that gets most scores their Oscar noms.
I think that's what's getting predictable about them.

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Woke will win over Williams
wink

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   TerryLee   (Member)

I've been a huge John Williams fan since "The Reivers," and while I love almost everything he's written, my impression of this last "Star Wars" movie was that there was little original material. It sounded, to me at least, like a rehash of all the music from the previous two, with resurrected tracks from the original three installments.

I would much rather have seen Powell's score to "How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World" nominated (and win). Even though it, too, used some themes from the first of that series, there was so much that was new and absolutely breathtaking. It's still my favorite 2019 score. I haven't seen some of movies whose scores were nominated, including "1917 and "Joker," but I can't imagine I'll be dissuaded. For what it's worth, I did see "Little Women" (I thought the score was serviceable but nothing memorable) and "Marriage Story" (I'm a Randy Newman fan but I thought I had heard this score before in "Avalon" and other Newman-scored titles).

Oh, well, what can you expect from an organization that only awarded Jerry Goldsmith with one Oscar?

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Remember :

The.only group.that takes.this.award.seriously.is.the.music branch that.makes.the.noms.
The voting for the award is.done by golk9 who don't give.a damn.

In other words...its the NOMINATIONS STUPID!

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 9:21 AM   
 By:   Broughtfan   (Member)

You never know what the Music Branch is gonna do. I think it strange that Howard Shore's great "Two Towers" score was deemed ineligible because of reused material while that's never been a question with these "Star Wars" scores. I mean, can anyone here explain to me what makes one eligible and one not (eligible)?

As for this year, I think "Joker" is simply a juggernaut, Hildur G, who I think is very talented, traveling down the "yellow brick awards road," (very likely) adding an Oscar to her Golden Globe, sundry critics awards and, of course, her Emmy for "Chernobyl."

I was sad that "The Aeronauts" didn't get any serious awards attention. I think Price did a wonderful job on that score (I'm surprised no BAFTA nom came his way).

Surprise du jour: Can you imagine the reaction from the Disney powers-that-be when "Frozen 2" failed to secure a Best Animated Feature nom? I was personally shocked (though happy to see "TS 4" in the lineup).

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 11:04 AM   
 By:   townerbarry   (Member)

This is how it will 100% Go on Oscar Night...

The Newman’s Boys will Cancel Out Each Other.

There will be a Huge Push to get Mr. Williams another Oscar...For Real.

But Since Joker will only Win One Oscar...it will Lose either 10 OR 9 Oscars. Could win Best Score if they don’t Honor Williams.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yes Williams should get it...not because its his/ the best of 2019 ,but its the conclusion of an extraordinary series.

I have to disagree with this. I want the award to go the project in question, not some other issue (like the whole saga or whatever). There are other awards for that. And I don't think William's score is particularly worthy of an Oscar this time around. But hey -- I'm guessing other "non-musical" considerations may come into play for this particular category anyway.

The nominations are extremely predictable, and although three of them are among my 'honourable mentions' this year (RISE, MARRIAGE STORY, JOKER -- did not care for 1917 or LITTLE WOMEN), they are far from being the best of the year.

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   MD   (Member)

Where is Silvestri´s name? ...

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   governor   (Member)

Where is Silvestri´s name? ...

I agree - Once again Alan Silvestri has been overlooked.

Anyway, that's already folded - Joker will get the statuette

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 1:54 PM   
 By:   TerryLee   (Member)

Can't find the thread about the shortlisted scores (engine down) but am I the only one surprised that the fantastic score to the "HTTYD The Hidden World" was not among the 15 "best" original scores of the year?
Is March so far away or does the academy not like John Powell that much? (I know his single nomination was for the original HTTYD)


I'm with you on this one. As I posted elsewhere in this thread, that was my favorite score from 2019. Fantastic is how I would describe it as well.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 2:40 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I don't really care that much for THE HIDDEN WORLD, but A HIDDEN LIFE, on the other hand -- that's the best score of 2019. A shame, then, that it was disqualified (AFAIK) due to the many classical pieces in the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 3:31 PM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

Where is Silvestri´s name? ...


That was my question. Sure there was a lot of bombastic action, but Endgame also featured excellent writing top to bottom. It enhanced the film's drama.

Joker will win because it's a way for the Academy to say "look how hip we are!" , no matter how mundane the score really is.

Black Panther....the most overrated score of the last few years actually won an Oscar, but Silvestri doesn't even get a nod ?

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   'Lenny Bruce' Marshall   (Member)

Silvestri has always been snubbed by the music branch . . unless he scores a ' prezgige' film like GUMP.
He's kinda like Morricone before DAYS.OF HEAVEN.

Don't.feel sorry.for.him. he's rich and loved by score fans the world over!

 
 Posted:   Jan 13, 2020 - 6:39 PM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Joker will win because it's a way for the Academy to say "look how hip we are!" , no matter how mundane the score really is.

Mundane?

Hmmm … I think Guðnadóttir's Joker is a conceptually stronger narrative piece than Newman's 1917, the latter oscillating between anonymous sound design for the big "war is hell" moments and formulaic Barberesque strings for the small "war is hell" moments, while the former is an uncharacteristically unflattering but piteous character study of a very broken (comic book) character.

I was doubtful myself at first, but I've come around to her score, particularly since sequencing the album chronologically.

 
 
 Posted:   Jan 14, 2020 - 7:20 PM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

I don't agree with Silvestri's Avengers: Endgame being snubbed. It was far from a bad score. In fact, I thought it was the most engaging of his Avengers scores. Probably the most sentimental MCU score as well. I was very surprised that both Infinity War and Endgame were front runners for Oscar nominations in the original score category. Both weren't anything particularly special. And current Silvestri has written more compelling attention worthy scores outside of the MCU (e.g.Flight,The Walk, and Welcome To Marwen). There's two main cues that people gush over from Endgame which is Portals (the rendition of the Avengers theme in this cue is a more grand version of the theme from Assemble in The Avengers)and Forge from Infinity War) and The Real Hero (which is basically a variation of his main theme from Cast Away). Both cues take place during two pivotal moments in the movie. I don't really hear people bring up any other moments in the score except those two moments, which have become iconic. I'm not trying to knock the score but I don't think it's worthy of an Oscar or a nomination for that matter. I also don't feel both cues make the score automatically worthy of a nomination or win. IMHO of course.

 
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