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 Posted:   May 24, 2020 - 2:51 PM   
 By:   Rameau   (Member)

Will we ever see a legitimate release of this one by Max Steiner?



I used to own the boot CD, mono & not great sound (& that's being kind),but a fine Steiner score. A great one for Tadlow, Steiner In The Fifties (this, The Searchers, Helen Of Troy, Distant Drums). Right now I'd settle for a good looking Blu-ray with stereo sound of this silly but enjoyable film.

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2020 - 3:16 PM   
 By:   OnyaBirri   (Member)

The Night Visitor - Henry Mancini

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2020 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

The Rozsa trilogy, of course, but I also revere the HENRY V music of both Walton and Doyle.

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2020 - 3:33 PM   
 By:   funkymonkeyjavajunky   (Member)

Timeline - complete!

Which score/composer?

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2020 - 3:43 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Excalibur, I call on your power...

As far as EXCALIBUR is concerned, I really like the movie (and I saw it several times in the 1980s), but I don't remember any actual Trevor Jones music for the movie except for the dancing scene of Igraine. Ok, there were a few other cues as well, but not that much, and they were all but dwarfed by the classical compositions. The music I remember was Wagner and Orff.

Has Trevor Jones music ever been released anywhere (in acceptable form(at))?
Was the use of classical music always planned that way or was this a director falling in love with his temp track? I don't even know. I know the classical compositions used were surprisingly effective, but I wonder what Trevor Jones actually wrote for it?

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2020 - 4:19 PM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)


Has Trevor Jones music ever been released anywhere (in acceptable form(at))?
Was the use of classical music always planned that way or was this a director falling in love with his temp track? I don't even know. I know the classical compositions used were surprisingly effective, but I wonder what Trevor Jones actually wrote for it?


There was an "unmentionable", but never an official release of his score.

There was an official Excalibur LP, containing the classical selections used in the film (but it was just a reissue of old catalog recordings owned by the record label, not the performances made for the film).

John Boormann had always intended to use classical "needle drops" in Excalibur, with Jones supplying more "incidental" cues, as well as all the source music.

Jones composed the music for the dance of Igrayne as you noted, and the later sequence when Arthur dances with Guinevere. He also wrote the music for the wedding scene and the "dinner music" (when Gawain challenges Lancelot's honor). His most prominent dramatic cue is for the Quest for the Grail sequence, in which the knights ride off in search of the grail and the film moves into the story of Percival. Jones also wrote a main title, and music for the final scenes of the film (neither of which were used; Boorman used Wagner's "Siegfried's Death" instead).

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2020 - 4:20 PM   
 By:   spook   (Member)

I’d guessed no one would mention it so I will.... GAWAIN AND THE GREEN KNIGHT (1973) with an absolute belter of a score by Ron Goodwin.
When Intrada put this out a while back (with 2 cds!!) I was totally stunned. It really was one of my holy grails and the kind of thing I never thought would happen considering how hard it seems to be to even find the film!

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2020 - 5:55 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

PRINCE VALIANT Franz Waxman

 
 Posted:   May 24, 2020 - 6:42 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Timeline - complete!

Which score/composer?


Goldsmith!

https://vimeo.com/347457247

 
 
 Posted:   May 24, 2020 - 7:14 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

My favorite is Ingmar Bergman's The Seventh Seal, with music by Erik Nordgren.

Other titles to create a top 5 list include:

Jacques Rivette's Joan the Maid
Franklin Schaffner's The War Lord
Robert Bresson's Lancelot of the Lake
James Clavell's The Last Valley

Also, there are numerous classic Japanese chanbara (sword fight) films with samurai, but I expect the
OP is focused on the lore of European (French or British) knights.
[if one is inclined to explore European cinema further east, there is a classic Polish epic directed by Aleksander Ford called Knights of the Teutonic Order about Germanic knighthood with music by Kazimierz Serocki]

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 12:30 AM   
 By:   pp312   (Member)

El Cid, sure, but I can't stand the film.

Interesting comment. Perhaps you might like to expand on it.

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 2:32 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Cid for me. Great film and music.
When i was a kid i had an uncle Sid.
I used to call him El Sid. smile

I was gona suggest Last Valley too (although thats pushing it) and war lord but zardozsp beat me to it.

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 3:45 AM   
 By:   benmears   (Member)

What is your favorite score to a movie about a medieval knight(s)?

I am not looking for just any medieval-set movie. It has to be about a knight(s).

I am not looking for pseudo-knights like Batman or The 13th Warrior.

I AM looking for movies like The First Knight or Excalibur.


Nothing else to do of your day?

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 3:51 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)


John Boormann had always intended to use classical "needle drops" in Excalibur, with Jones supplying more "incidental" cues, as well as all the source music.

Jones composed the music for the dance of Igrayne as you noted, and the later sequence when Arthur dances with Guinevere. He also wrote the music for the wedding scene and the "dinner music" (when Gawain challenges Lancelot's honor). His most prominent dramatic cue is for the Quest for the Grail sequence, in which the knights ride off in search of the grail and the film moves into the story of Percival. Jones also wrote a main title, and music for the final scenes of the film (neither of which were used; Boorman used Wagner's "Siegfried's Death" instead).




Thanks, that was very interesting. I always thought that Boorman had the classical music selections already in mind when shooting and editing the movie, they were practically staged to the score. That is why I don't remember much of Jones' music, as the big dramatic stuff was all Wagner and Orff. The dance and source music scenes were good though. Do you know about how much music Jones wrote for the movie?

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 4:50 AM   
 By:   Nono   (Member)

Thanks, that was very interesting. I always thought that Boorman had the classical music selections already in mind when shooting and editing the movie, they were practically staged to the score. That is why I don't remember much of Jones' music, as the big dramatic stuff was all Wagner and Orff. The dance and source music scenes were good though. Do you know about how much music Jones wrote for the movie?

About 27 or 28 minutes, with the alternate main and end titles which were not used.

Trevor Jones composed more than dance and source music. His score for Excalibur is short but also one of his finest.

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 4:52 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Alexander Nevsky!

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   johnjohnson   (Member)

El Capitán Trueno y el Santo Grial - Luis Ivars.

 
 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 7:29 AM   
 By:   Nono   (Member)

John Scott composed an excellent score for William the Conqueror (1990):


 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 8:04 AM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

Do you know about how much music Jones wrote for the movie?

I'm not sure. According to Paul Tonks' interview with Trevor Jones in Film Score Monthly (back in the 1990s), the composer stated "The original Excalibur with John Boorman ran four and a half hours". So, one can only speculate, but I'd guess he wrote more music than anyone has heard.

 
 Posted:   May 25, 2020 - 7:50 PM   
 By:   MusicUnite   (Member)

Strictly speaking, the Medieval period ended at the close of the 15th century.
Therefore films such as "The Last Valley" which takes place during the Thirty
Years War (1618-1648) really doesn't fit into this discussion.

Here are some movies (and TV series) and their composers, that fit into the medieval era:

Ivanhoe (1982) [UK/US] Allyn Ferguson -released

Ivanhoe (1997) [UK] Colin Towns -unreleased

Jeanne d'Arc/Joan of Arc (1927/1983) [Denmark] Ole Schmidt -released [silent film score]

The Crusades (1995) [UK] Jose Nieto -released

Arthur of the Britons (1972) [UK] Paul Lewis & Elmer Bernstein -released

Alfred the Great (1969) [UK] Raymond Leppard -unoffical release

Charlemagne (1993) [France] Hugues de Courson -released

Herkus Mantas/The Northern Crusades (1972) [Lithuania] Giedrius Kuprevicius -unreleased

Boleslaw smialy/Boleslaus the Bold (1971) [Poland] Wojciech Kilar -unreleased

Kazimierz wielki/Casimir the Great (1975) [Poland] Jerzy Maksymiuk -unreleased

Rycerz/The Knight (1980) [Poland] Zygmunt Konieczny -unreleased

The Legend of Robin Hood (1975) [UK] Stanley Myers -unreleased

The Shadow of the Tower (1972) [UK] Herbert Chappell -unreleased

The Black Arrow (1985) [UK] Stanley Myers -unreleased

Jan Zizka (1955) [Czechoslovakia] Jiri Srnka -unreleased

Proti vsem/Against All (1956) [Czechoslovakia] Jiri Srnka -unreleased

Krzyzacy/Knights of the Teutonic Order (1960) [Poland] Kazimierz Serocki -unreleased

This last film already mentioned, is a masterpiece of Polish cinema. The score
by Kazimierz Serocki (ser-oski) is one of his best. Sadly, he had only one fim score
released and "Krzyzacy" was not it.

Jay Cox

 
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