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May 25, 2020 - 1:05 PM
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I was really tired - drinking with Thor and Graham Watt takes a lot out of you.
I made it to the point where Harrison Ford and the giant dog entered, but I had to go to bed.
I enjoyed what I saw. Because I was not immersed in this series, it was as if I were watching some obscure sci-fi film for kids. It was like Mystery Science Theatre, minus the commentary.
Ms. Birri was the driving force behind this choice. We will finish it today.
Ms. Birri wants to know if they make an R2D2 roomba. She looked online but could not find one.
Forget Nick & Nora. 'S more like Thurston III & Lovey.
I greatly prefer Nick and Nora, but as long as you don't go the Mr. and Mrs. Roper route, we're cool. We haven't, however, the rarified breeding nor finances to be considered The Millionaire and His Wife. As for Star Wars, I enjoy it on a 1977 nostalgic level. I remember buying action figures at Zayre and the disco 12" of the theme. Is that John Williams heresy to admit that? Oh, and speaking of, did Johnny employ his jazz chops when writing for the best space combo ever: The Cantina Band!
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I assume you are watching via streaming, DVD, or Blu-ray (UHD or otherwise).
Sad thing is that ever since the DVD version, the music has been pushed so far back into the mix you can barely hear it anymore. From what I understand from talking to those in the know, this has been at Ben Burtt's urging, since he thinks his sound design is more important to the success of the films than Williams scores. A comparison to the laserdisc or even VHS versions reveals the music much more prominent in the older transfers.
Sad, since the music is the main draw for me - not much of a Star Wars guy myself.
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May 25, 2020 - 4:38 PM
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OnyaBirri
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I assume you are watching via streaming, DVD, or Blu-ray (UHD or otherwise).
Sad thing is that ever since the DVD version, the music has been pushed so far back into the mix you can barely hear it anymore. From what I understand from talking to those in the know, this has been at Ben Burtt's urging, since he thinks his sound design is more important to the success of the films than Williams scores. A comparison to the laserdisc or even VHS versions reveals the music much more prominent in the older transfers.
Sad, since the music is the main draw for me - not much of a Star Wars guy myself.
Yes, we can stream it for free. In the 45 minutes or so that I watched, I heard variations on the motif. The music seemed to be placed appropriately, neither too loud or too soft.
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Most of the action scenes are yet to come, which is where the sound effects burying the music is most obvious (not surprisingly). Most apparent during the princess rescue scenes and the final battle.
Fwiw I just recently watched the 4K remasters with the Dolby Atmos surround tracks. Was hoping that the extra channels might actually re-emphasize the score, but instead all I got were more spaceships and laser blasts zipping around.
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Is LoungeLaura the spouse of OnyaBirri?
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May 25, 2020 - 5:06 PM
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Grecchus
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Hi-ho, hi-ho, hi-ho, hi-ho, hi-ho, hi-ho, hi-ho, high-hoe. High-hoe, high-hoe, it's off to work we go . . .
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Most of the action scenes are yet to come, which is where the sound effects burying the music is most obvious (not surprisingly). Most apparent during the princess rescue scenes and the final battle.
Fwiw I just recently watched the 4K remasters with the Dolby Atmos surround tracks. Was hoping that the extra channels might actually re-emphasize the score, but instead all I got were more spaceships and laser blasts zipping around.
This is disheartening.
It's incredible to think about how iconic the music is for Star Wars, and how lauded John Williams is for his 40+ years of dedication to this franchise, and to show our appreciation all we have are poorly remastered soundtrack releases and increasingly down-mixed music from the films.
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This is disheartening.
It's incredible to think about how iconic the music is for Star Wars, and how lauded John Williams is for his 40+ years of dedication to this franchise, and to show our appreciation all we have are poorly remastered soundtrack releases and increasingly down-mixed music from the films.
FWIW, this is really only the case with the original three films. The scores for the prequels and the new trilogy haven't been mucked with much.
Of course. after sitting through most of these films here recently, the two most enjoyable films - the original, and Empire Strikes Back - are also the ones that are the most frustrating.
I know this is an unpopular view, but of the other films, I found The Last Jedi to be the most intriguing. At least I couldn't predict every single story beat.
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It's incredible to think about how iconic the music is for Star Wars, and how lauded John Williams is for his 40+ years of dedication to this franchise, and to show our appreciation all we have are poorly remastered soundtrack releases and increasingly down-mixed music from the films.
Two words: Charles Gerhardt. He recorded gorgeous suites from SW, TESB, and ROTJ.
As an occasional viewer but not a fan of the Star Wars franchise, for me the first movie (1977) is by far the best one they ever did.
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And why didn't the big red dog get a necklace at the end, like the other two guys? How racist.
First of all, he's not a dog, he's a mog. Half man, half dog. And it was awfully broad-minded in 1977 to have him on stage getting applause at all. You have to take into account when it was made. 
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May 25, 2020 - 10:45 PM
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Zoragoth
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For all the mythological underpinnings (from Kurosawa to Joseph Campbell and what-have-you), I think that was basically its intention. A FLASH GORDON-type adventure for kids. That it became such a huge, age-spanning phenomenon was unexpected even to Lucas and the rest of the crew.
I don't get it either. STAR TREK (at least in its original incarnation), I get. There's some good, timeless and characterizations and themes there. With STAR WARS, I don't find much there beyond production values, especially special effects, set design, and music. This latest trilogy was especially unnecessary (except to Disney stockholders, for the benefit of whom it was made, and no one else) and fatuous.
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