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Thanks for the replies so far.
Thor - I understand your decision to give up buying CDs. I just have touchy-feely moods when I "want" something new, like a spoiled toddler screaming for new toys. I think the pandemic has affected my brain.
Zap - I absolutely go back and listen to old stuff again and again. That's why I never really "got" the people who post here when a new release is announced, saying "Great! Ordered! But what about X?"
Onya - I have a sentimental connection to all my bits of plastic and cardboard. There are very few, if any, that I "no longer care about". There are a handful that I acquired which I never really liked in the first place (stuff picked up cheap at record fayres), but honestly, just glancing at my shelves I can see maybe three of those. If I sold them all I'd get about 5 euros. Anyone want to send me TWO MULES FOR SISTER SARA in exchange for Graeme Revell's BODY OF EVIDENCE?
litefoot - Where did you get the impression that us Continental people had extremely well-paid jobs? Even if that were the case, the Covid has affected the employment of many worldwide. I'm sure you knew that anyway.
Kev - Again, I'm not really "obsessive" about anything. I even did a "good" (by my standards) thread a few years back called "To Have Or Not To Have", when I was thinking of just giving the collecting habit up and go live on a beach naked for the rest of my life, eating parrots.
Nedmerrill - I'm all for Spockisms, and it ties in neatly with the paragraph above.
spook - Scotland! My homeland! You can keep it! We're at 37 degrees here (and that's Centigrade). Actually, could you send me just a wee bit of your rain, just for a day, for the plants? Actually, one advantage of living in the "big bit" of Europe is that I can get the European-pressed things very cheaply.
Thomas - I usually avoid expanded editions if I am happy with the original. I even put up with poor-quality sound once a better-sounding edition was released. I've become a bit more audiophile since listening to Chris Malone on the Goldsmith audio podcast. I'd really like to "have" that John Williams threesome with TOWERING INFERNO, EARTHQUAKE and THE POSEIDON ADVENTURE, despite having the original FSMs.
Anyway, since I started this thread I seem to have turned myself back to my normal self. The stress created by the pandemic, which has directly affected my brain, made me at first (earlier today) very capricious, but now I see everything in perspective. I don't really "need" anything at all except beer, wine, good weather, my good friends and long-suffering wife. And on that note, we're all complaining (well, not "all", and not really "complaining") about shipping costs and how they have affected us. But we were paying 20 dollars for a CD in 1998 that today, 22 years later, must cost about, oh...20 dollars? And even if it's 30 dollars, don't we go out and spend that or much more every month on a good meal? And with a good meal you can't vomit it up and eat it again. You have to pay an additional 30 or 40 dollars for the same thing. No replay value.
I don't know what I was complaining about. I'm better now. The Two Mules can roger Sister Sara for all I care, and the don can stay dead as far as I'm concerned. But lets' keep this thread going, because I know that tomorrow I'll be different again.
See you all later, I warn you.
EDIT - Can we stay off the "Thor vs the others" expansions retread here please?
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So, nobody else want to wallow in self-pity or shall we call it a day?
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So, nobody else want to wallow in self-pity or shall we call it a day?
Graham, it is very liberating to embrace change. It was difficult for me to trade in my Kenyon Hopkins LPs for the complete set of Star Wars CDs, but I'm a better person for having done so.
I hate change, Onya. Having said that, I've had the same mirrored walls, cream-coloured sofa with gold embroidery, and austere leather desk chair for my home "office" since 1967, and I can tell you that I'm getting pretty sick of it. In the (unlikely) event that I DO sell it all off, how many CDs do you reckon I could buy with the dosh received?
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Aug 8, 2020 - 8:52 AM
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So, nobody else want to wallow in self-pity or shall we call it a day?
Graham, it is very liberating to embrace change. It was difficult for me to trade in my Kenyon Hopkins LPs for the complete set of Star Wars CDs, but I'm a better person for having done so.
I hate change, Onya. Having said that, I've had the same mirrored walls, cream-coloured sofa with gold embroidery, and austere leather desk chair for my home "office" since 1967, and I can tell you that I'm getting pretty sick of it. In the (unlikely) event that I DO sell it all off, how many CDs do you reckon I could buy with the dosh received?
Ha ha!
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WOE IS ME Part II
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Do you all know what REALLY bugs me? People ignoring me. I'm a real person with real feelings. And yet here, on this very board, where I have who I "thought" were my friends, I stretch rabbits out until they are enormously long...and it seems that nobody has bothered reading them. How do I know? Because someone will invariably make the exact same point a few posts down the line.
And while I'm hyperventilating, I can even post short, squat rabbits and it's as if I don't exist. Case in point, Exhibit A, the post started by No Respectable Gentleman, about who might play Jerry Goldsmith in the upcoming film about the making of CHINATOWN. So, Zardoz spake that it would be interesting to know who might play Philip Lambro, and I then make the pertinent comment that the producers may deem to jettison all that material because it isn't exactly box office gold. I even say that it's a pity Dustin Hoffman isn't 45 years old anymore.
Then what do we get? Loads of replies saying that they probably won't include much - if anything - about the scoring controversy, and people even posting photographs of Dustin bloody Hoffman, saying "I always thought..."
I know that to God there is no zero. Nevertheless, that thought doesn't comfort me at all right now as I'm still one metre tall and enjoying my romance with that lovely circus midget lady. Things may change when I'm hanging onto a freakin' pencil to stop myself getting washed down the plughole.
But on the other hand, I do feel an impending sense of freedom, of complete liberation, knowing that I can post anything here and that nobody will read it, especially if it's long and wordy and rabbity, as this one is.
So let me say that you're all a bunch of wankers. No insult received means no insult made.
And another thing - The Zoom meetings are on Sundays now, when I have to phone my mum upstairs. Did nobody think of me before taking that decision? I do not expect any response to this post. But if anybody out there IS reading this, would you mind - when I get smaller - not dropping condoms full of water on me? I know it's only water, but the connotations make me want to vomit on you. It would only be a tiny dribble from your perspective.
Right then, stuff you lot. I'm off to shag my midget while I still "fit", and before it becomes like shagging a bucket of maggots.
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You know we love you, but I suggest you abstain from midgets. 
But don't abstain from Midget Gems, unless you prefer Wine Gums.
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Aug 10, 2020 - 3:24 AM
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I shall do the decent thing and address you all individually, at least those of you who appear to have at least scanned over my drivel. I thank you one and all.
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TG - The name's Clarice. How quickly you forgot your nuts. You're nuts.
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joan - Thanks for singling out that rude word. It shows you at least scanned my rabbit. "We love you"? I'd like to think you are speaking about absolutely everybody at FSM. But some people will inevitably hate me. That's better than being indifferent. Oscar Wilde actually told me that when we were put in prison for bare-knuckle fighting in the street, which had by then, in 1979, been banned by the the Queen of Berry.
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Onya - Again you singled out one aspect. Thank you for at least scanning. Disembodied electrons actually do create a form of consciousness. Even plants feel afraid. Prince Charles of the United Kingdom of Britain told me that when we were in prison together for talking to plants in the street last week without wearing facemasks.
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George -
I like midgets
I like gems
I like wine
I like gums
But particularly wine
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Kev - The name's Clarice. Midge is MusicMad. Or that otter out of Ring of Bright Water which I saw at the cinema with my grandparents and I cried when the otter got killed by that idiot working-class labourer weilding a shovel in a ditch. I pretended I wasn't crying, but I think they knew I was.
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Kev again - Yes, I remember that "Do You Read Long Posts?" (or something). joan also did a "cherry picking" thread about picking cherries. I remember reading them both - all of the posts in each - because I contributed to them and it's only common decency to read everything in a thread to which one contributes. Aren't I the noble one?
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Stormie - You must be referring back to Part 1 of the Woes. It is indeed good to go back and listen to things one had neglected. In fact, I've got over that problem of "wanting" now. I was just being fickle. Now my problem is to get through that wiry air vent from the cellar into the garden.
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If anyone wants to complain about anything else, this is the place. I'll read every word, I promise.
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I order a lot on eBay but that's usually for regular releases not ones released by the speciality labels.
Those I order mostly at Music Box Records. The albums are bit more expensive but shipping costs are lower and also no potential custom fees.
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Right at the beginning of this grown-like-Topsy thread, Graham Watt wrote:
... Where do you acquire your soundtrack releases? ...
Well, down here in Oz, where there are, as far as I can determine, no specialist soundtrack retailers, and where Amazon won't sell music files, and where iTunes is a mere shadow of its US self, I'm compelled to buy CDs. Where do I get 'em? Screen Archives Entertainment.
If I want a new release I know that they'll have it in stock, either immediately upon release, or within a week or so, a delay of no consequence to me.
I find their service to be excellent, their packaging to be reliable, and their postage acceptable.
On prices, and postage, your mileage may vary (TM).
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Graham, I read you. I hope you're having a better day now than when you wrote Part II.
And I also have a secret craving for the LLL disaster movie 3-pack but can't justify it.
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...Anyway, since I started this thread I seem to have turned myself back to my normal self. The stress created by the pandemic, which has directly affected my brain, made me at first (earlier today) very capricious, but now I see everything in perspective. I don't really "need" anything at all except beer, wine, good weather, my good friends and long-suffering wife. And on that note, we're all complaining (well, not "all", and not really "complaining") about shipping costs and how they have affected us. But we were paying 20 dollars for a CD in 1998 that today, 22 years later, must cost about, oh...20 dollars? And even if it's 30 dollars, don't we go out and spend that or much more every month on a good meal? And with a good meal you can't vomit it up and eat it again. You have to pay an additional 30 or 40 dollars for the same thing. No replay value...
Sorry, Graham, I'm late joining (my excuse: I've had a very busy three days ... anyone who noticed me on last night's Zoom meeting probably wondered who the ol' geezer was sleeping, hopefully not snoring ...) but I thought I would comment now as I don't agree with your positive statement!
Like you, at this advanced age a large part of our income is spent on food, wine et al. and we have concerns about the current environment (especially with regard to our adult children who may not have the freedom we've enjoyed these last 40 - 50 years). Obviously I don't know whether your financial status prevents you spending that much on CDs or, like me, you're now more cautious. Not necessarily because of the cost to your finances but more as to whether the new shiny disc will bring the level of enjoyment you/we expect from its cost.
Put simply, I could afford to buy any one or more of those Ennio Morricone CDs I missed out on a few years ago when I put a halt to my collecting habit (not just the Maestro's works) as I became convinced that the pleasure of owning would exceed the pleasure that the music should bring. And surely this is not a good reason to spend money, whether from limited resources or not.
Yes, many of the desired releases cost as much - face value - as their equivalents did 20 years ago. Or, at any rate, the increase is less than inflation would dictate. But I don't believe this is a valid comparison. For the seller: yes ... and that's their business to determine. But for us buyers, it's the cost of getting that shiny disc to our CD player and, in the majority of cases, that cost is a lot more now than it has been during those 20 years. Maybe not so, when compared with the cost in 1998 - 2002 but these intervening years have seen the effect of the internet on our select market. Here in the UK, beneficial FX rates prior to the financial crash and the Brexit vote meant the basic cost of a new release was low. Shipping costs, etc. were manageable, especially if the order was sufficiently large.
Today, with poor FX rates (both Dollar and Euro) said total cost, incl. shipping, is no longer low.
So for me. yes I could afford to buy a new release or two but I'm cautious, asking myself whether the outlay is for the pleasure of collecting or listening.
I've written in other threads (many times!) how improved Hi-Fi has increased my listening pleasure beyond expectations and I'm rediscovering scores I've known for many years. But I've also branched out into classical/concert hall works and, more recently, orchestral light easy listening. I mention this because if you can't bring yourself to spend Eur 30+ on a new release but do want to scratch that buying itch ...
... there's a mine of material to be explored at ridiculously low prices. And some of it, dare I say, brings a lot more listening pleasure than some of the newer score releases.
In an attempt to be more positive, I hope that next year will bring improvements re: access to the wonderful world of film scores (and I don't mean downloads!!!)
Mitch
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