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 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 3:58 AM   
 By:   keky   (Member)

I always hated LPs. Back whenthere were no CDs I rather bought tapes than LPs. When I first heard a CD it was like magic! Finally a medium that doesn't crack and hiss during playing, with crystal clear sound, and it isn't as vulnerable as vinyl! CD is my favourite music medium today and alway will be no matter how some try to bring back the more expensive vinyl or pushing the impersonal downloads.

But in a perfect world every one of us should have the chance to own his/her music in whatever form he/she wishes, be that CD, Lp or digital.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 4:21 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

I always hated LPs. Back whenthere were no CDs I rather bought tapes than LPs. When I first heard a CD it was like magic! Finally a medium that doesn't crack and hiss during playing, with crystal clear sound, and it isn't as vulnerable as vinyl! CD is my favourite music medium today and alway will be no matter how some try to bring back the more expensive vinyl or pushing the impersonal downloads.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 5:27 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

and the vast majority of computers in the world that still have disc drives (I know some new ones don't).

Actually it's a lot more than 'some new ones'. Most laptops made in the last five+ years or more don't (I have one from, I believe, 2014 that doesn't). Mac systems flat out don't and haven't for a while from what I gather. And hell I even recently built a new computer and my case doesn't even have SPACE for it, I had to buy an extra enclosure for my drive.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 5:43 AM   
 By:   Rozsaphile   (Member)

Records are a lot easier to play

You mean after you've secured the dust cover, unlatched the tone arm, brushed (ever so cautiously) the stylus, cleaned the disc surface, and (with some current turntables) held your breath while manually lowering the arm? Then, praying for an absence of heavy footfalls, you can sit back and discover how many new pops and clicks have emerged since the last playing. Which will keep you awake until the side change. Heaven help you if you wish to skip to another track.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 6:26 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

People complain they don't have storage space for CD's yet they have storage space for vinyl?
All my CD players still work.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 6:29 AM   
 By:   solium   (Member)

Gonna need one of these!


 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 7:14 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

You mean CD sales have dropped and dropped and dropped and dropped, for year after year after year... and only now have those diving sales eventually reached the lowly level of vinyl sales?

That's what I was thinking. Maybe it's not so much vinyl surpassing sales but CD dropping in sales.

People sometimes point out the economical benefits to multi-disc sets - a 2-CD set for $30 is cheaper than a single disc release. Some video consumers will calculate the price of an episode on a TV release (I guess that makes sense if you're paying for per episode streaming). So why not calculate the price per cue for releases and tout that? You get more bang for your buck on those releases with several under 60-second cues.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 7:22 AM   
 By:   Khan   (Member)

You mean CD sales have dropped and dropped and dropped and dropped, for year after year after year... and only now have those diving sales eventually reached the lowly level of vinyl sales?

Well put. Making such a claim about LP sales without context is a perfect example of fake news.


How is this, taken directly from the article, "fake news"?

"Music fans dropped $232.1 million on records in the first half of 2020, according to the Recording Industry Association of America, far surpassing the $129.9 million spent on CDs.

Vinyl sales contributed 62 percent of total physical music media revenues -- which dropped 23 percent year-on-year, a decline the RIAA attributed to the coronavirus pandemic's shutdown of music venues and stores."

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 7:33 AM   
 By:   Last Child   (Member)

You mean CD sales have dropped and dropped and dropped and dropped, for year after year after year... and only now have those diving sales eventually reached the lowly level of vinyl sales?

Well put. Making such a claim about LP sales without context is a perfect example of fake news.


How is this, taken directly from the article, "fake news"?

"Music fans dropped $232.1 million on records in the first half of 2020, according to the Recording Industry Association of America, far surpassing the $129.9 million spent on CDs.

Vinyl sales contributed 62 percent of total physical music media revenues -- which dropped 23 percent year-on-year, a decline the RIAA attributed to the coronavirus pandemic's shutdown of music venues and stores."


I guess it depends on how you interpret the article title. "Surpasses" implies that vinyl sales rose, although they say at the end that physical media sales have been dropping. Total dollars spent might be more on vinyl than cd, but it doesn't indicate if the sales rate (items sold) have gone up or down.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2020 - 11:35 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

Well Columbia House for LPs hasn't shown up yet, so until that happens, I think a lot of folks are still priced out of the market. I do really love seeing my local record shops in town thriving though, most of them sell vintage vinyl that they've bought as collection or had stockpiled in storage for a generation.

Interstingly, there's a huge record store in Calgary called Recordland who is stockpilign CDs too, for the inevitable CD resurgence. Probably will be the same year Fluppy Dogs finally drops on CD too. wink

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2020 - 5:45 AM   
 By:   martyn.crosthwaite   (Member)

... for the first time since the 1980's. This just in:

https://www.barrons.com/news/vinyl-sales-surpass-cd-revenue-first-time-since-1980s-01599762905?tesla=y


Can this really be true ??

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2020 - 5:50 AM   
 By:   Hedji   (Member)

I know I'm not the first with this idea, but I'd be on board more with vinyl if it came with a lossless digital download, since I rip my CD's. Or if they'd include a CD in a little pocket of the gatefold. That would be nice

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2020 - 7:18 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)

yeah, Vinyl will remain inferior to CD's always.
The whole vinyl thing is nostalgia, and that is fine.
But I am keeping my car, not swapping it out with a horse and buggy.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2020 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2020 - 4:41 PM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)



and yet---- you are buying vinyl

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2020 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

heh heh

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2020 - 8:45 PM   
 By:   Ag^Janus   (Member)

I still like film but let's be realistic.

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2020 - 9:51 PM   
 By:   Zoragoth   (Member)

Records are a lot easier to play

You mean after you've secured the dust cover, unlatched the tone arm, brushed (ever so cautiously) the stylus, cleaned the disc surface, and (with some current turntables) held your breath while manually lowering the arm? Then, praying for an absence of heavy footfalls, you can sit back and discover how many new pops and clicks have emerged since the last playing. Which will keep you awake until the side change. Heaven help you if you wish to skip to another track.


Lol, all the reason I never liked LPs and, once the amazing CD came along, I never looked back!

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2020 - 10:44 PM   
 By:   hollywoodvegas   (Member)

They write this article every year. Here is one from 2019

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/09/14/vinyl-records-on-track-to-outsell-cds-and-prices-have-risen-490percent.html?fbclid=IwAR0h1SeABzP66UMArT5eOmJcWf4YEQyWUfxvKU4V3RTdAmwxrSOgZZA2X3w

Plus, they are talking about revenue and when vinyl sells for 3 to 5 times the cost per unit you can see it makes it easier for vinyl to generate revenue.

The Spielberg Ultimate Collection was $24.99 on CD and almost $150 on vinyl.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2020 - 11:02 PM   
 By:   ROBERT Z   (Member)

The Spielberg Ultimate Collection was $24.99 on CD and almost $150 on vinyl.

For the same content !

 
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