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 Posted:   Mar 23, 2021 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   Andy   (Member)

ordered at once ! can't await it and thanks to the interesting Goldsmith Odyssey !
(and special thanks to all for the fine enunciation, as i have no problems following the conversation as english is noit my native language)

Short question: can anyone explain technically what the source "print takes" mean (something similar to the surviving warner bros. sources like the FSM release of "Land of the pharaos"? )
and, was the original score recorded in stereo at that time or was it recorded in mono too ?



 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2021 - 12:55 PM   
 By:   Bob DiMucci   (Member)

Short question: can anyone explain technically what the source "print takes" mean (something similar to the surviving warner bros. sources like the FSM release of "Land of the pharaohs"? )


Good question. If I had to guess, I'd say that it just means the recordings (the "takes" of each cue) that were ultimately used in the final print of the film. Each attempt at recording a cue would be a "take," the ones ultimately used would be the ones "printed." "Print it!" Thus, "print takes". It doesn't sound like any alternate takes were kept by Columbia. I may, of course, be totally wrong.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2021 - 1:25 PM   
 By:   MCurry29   (Member)

Action music! Ugh! Of course I ordered - it's a Western.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2021 - 1:36 PM   
 By:   Roger Feigelson   (Member)

Short question: can anyone explain technically what the source "print takes" mean (something similar to the surviving warner bros. sources like the FSM release of "Land of the pharaohs"? )


Good question. If I had to guess, I'd say that it just means the recordings (the "takes" of each cue) that were ultimately used in the final print of the film. Each attempt at recording a cue would be a "take," the ones ultimately used would be the ones "printed." "Print it!" Thus, "print takes". It doesn't sound like any alternate takes were kept by Columbia. I may, of course, be totally wrong.


You're right. Print takes are the final takes the composer wants to use in the final film.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 23, 2021 - 2:50 PM   
 By:   Andy   (Member)

hi Roger
thanks for the update

then in fact, print takes are first generation tapes, wow, what a find smile

thought it were some kind of safty tapes reduced to mono for use in the final filmmixes or for dubbing international versions

can't await to hear it. hope it sells well!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2021 - 6:53 PM   
 By:   cody1949   (Member)

Received my copy today . Yavar brought attention to a good one and you guys at Intrada did some unearthing at the Columbia vault to bring this release to fruition. Glad you did. Can you continue digging at the Columbia vault for more '50's gold ?
A lot of excellent composers worked there. Duning, Raskin, Steiner , Friedhofer and Siegmeister to name just 5. Please see what you can do. Thanks.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2021 - 7:36 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

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 Posted:   Mar 25, 2021 - 7:51 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I hope we won’t have to wait until 2031 for Black Patch... but if we do, I’ll be ready. smile In my opinion the title character’s theme in that score is one of Jerry’s greatest. In its best moments it sends chills up my spine.

Danny’s Theme in Face of a Fugitive has a similar quality of pathos to it.

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2021 - 7:59 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

In talking to Doug Fake, he didn't seem to hold out much hope for Black Patch being found. But that was a year ago and nobody thought Face of a Fugitive would ever be released either.

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2021 - 8:03 AM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

I'd like to hold out hope that all the score from "The Satan Bug" can be found and so a new mastering with today's tech' can be done.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2021 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   CCOJOE   (Member)

And here's the special Goldsmith Odyssey Soundtrack Spotlight episode!

https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/8192306-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-face-of-a-fugitive-1959

Enjoy.

Yavar


Great work on this, Yavar! Thank you!! Can't wait to get my copy and listen to it in full glory!

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2021 - 4:52 PM   
 By:   Sirusjr   (Member)

Sound quality is excellent for a late 50s score. Enjoyed the quality on my first listen. Still need time to dig into and learn the themes but I am glad I bought this one on a whim.

 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2021 - 5:47 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I actually really like the movie (it's no Lonely Are the Brave but is still among the better westerns Jerry scored), and recommend you give it a watch on YouTube if you want to get a better handle on the thematic material and how it connects to the story being told:


Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 26, 2021 - 8:33 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)

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 Posted:   Mar 26, 2021 - 9:56 PM   
 By:   CCOJOE   (Member)

Got my copy in the mail today and have been enjoying the beejeezus out of it. Wonderful music!!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 28, 2021 - 6:06 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

Mine's is on track for delivery tomorrow. Huzzah!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2021 - 4:03 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

In reference to my earlier post, I have just finished playing the good one. Decent sound for its age. I wasn't really familiar with this one( save the MT when film was last on TV). So it's like getting a new JG cd. The music is more drama than yeehaa. My favourite Goldsmith out of the last two! smile

 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2021 - 4:11 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Listening to "Takedown" I was stunned how much I felt that cue would be at home in Goldsmith's Rambo scores. You gotta give the man credit: he came out of the gate guns a-blazing.

And kept it going at least til 2000.






Try 2003. Guns a-blazing. Dying of cancer, the man wrote those.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 29, 2021 - 6:04 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

I have bought all these releases that I've said negative things about( and stand by them) and there is stuff to like. I just don't like them they I do others. I don't get that little frisson, as it were.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 30, 2021 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   Zooba   (Member)

Received my FACE OF A FUGITIVE CD yesterday. Enjoyed the listen and was happy to see that John Williams was in Goldsmith's Orchestra on Piano. I couldn't really hear much piano in most of the score, but the "Source Music" cues seemed to have a generous amount and were played with fun and gusto. If that was Johnny W. playing them, great job indeed. I found the Source Cues fun in themselves and they made for a most enjoyable program.

I enjoyed many parts of Goldsmith's score for FACE OF A FUGITIVE. Makes me want even more now a BLACK PATCH release. Of the two I personally find the BLACK PATCH music a bit better personally in terms of beautiful and engaging Themes and performances. I'm sure Doug and INTRADA Team would truly do PATCH justice if they eventually get it. But for now I thank them for FACE OF A FUGITIVE another Winning Release from INTRADA!


A bit of Trivia concerning Goldsmith and the young actress in FACE OF A FUGITIVE. The little girl in the movie, I think her character is Alice, is played by Gina Gillespie. A few years later she would appear in the THRILLER TV Series Episode entitled MR. GEORGE playing a little girl named Priscilla who lives in a house with a Ghostly Protector. Jerry Goldsmith provided a sweet and touching score for that episode, which is one of my personal favorite Goldsmith THRILLER Scores. It appears on one of the Tadlow THRILLER Scores Releases. It's Awesome. Check it out!

Gina Gillespie in FACE OF A FUGITIVE




Gina Gillespie in the Jerry Goldsmith scored THRILLER Episode MR. GEORGE



 
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