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 Posted:   Apr 23, 2021 - 12:50 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Zimmer is probably my favourite film composer at the moment. He's always been in my top 5, but I listen to him more these days than I do those in front of him on my list, like Williams, Elfman and Goldenthal. He's the best, screw the rest! big grin

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2021 - 1:55 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I do think Zimmer gets an unnecessary amount of kicking.

However, best? Not for me.

In fact, no one is 'best'.

Each has their own particular thing they are best at.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2021 - 2:01 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

I did start this thread as a bit of a p!$$ take to the 'other one', if I'm honest.
Sad to see it's gotten way more traction compared to all the ones I start about proper film music and composer discussion.
Just the nature of the internet, I guess.

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2021 - 3:42 AM   
 By:   Thomas   (Member)

I did start this thread as a bit of a p!$$ take to the 'other one', if I'm honest.
Sad to see it's gotten way more traction compared to all the ones I start about proper film music and composer discussion.
Just the nature of the internet, I guess.



You're saying this Zimmer thread you started isn't about proper film music?wink

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2021 - 4:12 AM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Haha!
Nice one, Thomas mah boy!!! wink

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2021 - 5:49 AM   
 By:   ryanpaquet   (Member)

But he's got the moves. big grin

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2021 - 6:11 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I did start this thread as a bit of a p!$$ take to the 'other one', if I'm honest.
Sad to see it's gotten way more traction compared to all the ones I start about proper film music and composer discussion.
Just the nature of the internet, I guess.


"The Internet, you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2021 - 7:39 AM   
 By:   acathla   (Member)

This year I have REALLY been bitten by the Zimmer fever.

I have always (or at least since Pearl Harbor) been a fan of his work but I also found a lot of his work to be really boring. But thats more on me than it is on him. I started out as a melody/themes score fan at first so I mostly only liked the obvious ones. Lately I have been much more "open" about the sound of score and have visited and revisited so much of his work and a lot of stuff I didnt like back then I love today!

Like Inception, for years I only listened to Time from that album. But today (this year) I've become obsessed with it. All the tracks! I think WW84 "woke" me up a little and made me seek him out further.

I have a Zimmer playlist in iTunes where I add all cues I like from each albums and I have tried to be selective and not just add everything. As of now, this list has a runtime of "only" 39 hours! lol!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2021 - 8:47 AM   
 By:   Damian   (Member)


"The Internet, you will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."


Perhaps at a royal mail managers meeting.

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2021 - 4:32 PM   
 By:   Totoro   (Member)

Zimmer is not the best composer even on his own remot control sausage factory...

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2021 - 5:46 PM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

Only a matter of time before Hans chimes in and tells us all we know nothing about film musicwink

I honestly wonder if that actually does happen.

Zimmer had mentioned in older interviews that he has checked FSM Boards before and he and his collaborators also mention critics in forums and how they can’t help but look at what people are saying about them, so I wouldn’t be surprised if the most vitriolic people on here that defend Zimmer might be them.

Hans? Hans is that you?! Can you hear me Hans?!?!

BRAHHHHMM!!!!


I defend Hans and I'm definitely not him nor do I work for him (though I would love to meet him). I happen to be a big fan of his work.

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2021 - 5:48 PM   
 By:   Peter Atterberg   (Member)

I don't understand all the Zimmer hate. He's got a lot of good scores under his belt. Do many action movies now use the techniques made famous by his group? Yes. He's still made some great scores and continues to do so. Given how much I write to his work I would label him my favorite film composer at the moment. I'm still jamming out to Drop Zone a month into its release. And I saw Zimmer live here in Chicago back in 2017 or 2018 I believe it was, pretty spectacular show.

Some of my favorites by him are these -

Broken Arrow
Drop Zone
Crimson Tide
The Peacemaker
The Rock (I know Nick Glennie-Smith was the main guy on this score)
Days of Thunder
The Dark Knight

and hopefully, the new Bond movie No Time to Die.

People can hate on him all they want. His scores and his name continue to make money. He's being hired by so many for a reason. Clearly The Dark Knight trilogy made a good chunk of money and his scores got recognition even from casual folks I know.

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2021 - 7:19 PM   
 By:   General Kael   (Member)

The BRAAAAAAUUUUUMMMMMM is the best theme ever written!

It's like Dies Irae, but even more basic!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2021 - 10:14 PM   
 By:   Mephariel   (Member)

I don't understand all the Zimmer hate. He's got a lot of good scores under his belt. Do many action movies now use the techniques made famous by his group? Yes. He's still made some great scores and continues to do so. Given how much I write to his work I would label him my favorite film composer at the moment. I'm still jamming out to Drop Zone a month into its release. And I saw Zimmer live here in Chicago back in 2017 or 2018 I believe it was, pretty spectacular show.

Some of my favorites by him are these -

Broken Arrow
Drop Zone
Crimson Tide
The Peacemaker
The Rock (I know Nick Glennie-Smith was the main guy on this score)
Days of Thunder
The Dark Knight

and hopefully, the new Bond movie No Time to Die.

People can hate on him all they want. His scores and his name continue to make money. He's being hired by so many for a reason. Clearly The Dark Knight trilogy made a good chunk of money and his scores got recognition even from casual folks I know.


The same reason Tom Brady, Lebron James get hated. People can't stand successful dominant figures in any industry.

Zimmer is not the best composer. No way he is better than Williams. But he is a lot better than people like to admit.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2021 - 1:39 AM   
 By:   Octoberman   (Member)

It's a Zimmer World.

I would crawl on my hands and knees for 5 miles of broken glass just to sit in the shade his shadow casts.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2021 - 3:24 AM   
 By:   David Mueller   (Member)

Hans Zimmer is for me a very good producer, not composer. No one can program synths this good like him.

But I have two questions:

Why he need 3-11 Additional Composers?
Why he need 3-8 Orchestrators?

The only thing he does alone is synth progamming.


But like I said in a previous post, I like some of Zimmers music... I even like that Inception BRRAAAAWWWWM.
But my question will always be: Is this actually composed by him?
He is not my favourite composer and he'll never be but I would say he is somewhere in my top 15.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2021 - 6:27 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I don't understand all the Zimmer hate. He's got a lot of good scores under his belt. Do many action movies now use the techniques made famous by his group? Yes. He's still made some great scores and continues to do so. Given how much I write to his work I would label him my favorite film composer at the moment. I'm still jamming out to Drop Zone a month into its release. And I saw Zimmer live here in Chicago back in 2017 or 2018 I believe it was, pretty spectacular show.

Some of my favorites by him are these -

Broken Arrow
Drop Zone
Crimson Tide
The Peacemaker
The Rock (I know Nick Glennie-Smith was the main guy on this score)
Days of Thunder
The Dark Knight

and hopefully, the new Bond movie No Time to Die.

People can hate on him all they want. His scores and his name continue to make money. He's being hired by so many for a reason. Clearly The Dark Knight trilogy made a good chunk of money and his scores got recognition even from casual folks I know.


The same reason Tom Brady, Lebron James get hated. People can't stand successful dominant figures in any industry.

Zimmer is not the best composer. No way he is better than Williams. But he is a lot better than people like to admit.


I was a huge Zimmer fan in the beginning but started to lose interest when his scores became more atmospheric in nature. Though that's not to say I don't like some of his more recent scores like Alice in Wonderland and certainly WW84. I think the biggest gripe is how his stye has taken over the industry and how he created the film score factory farm which spread and homogenized the industry and Hollywood scoring soundscape even more.

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2021 - 9:18 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)



I was a huge Zimmer fan in the beginning but started to lose interest when his scores became more atmospheric in nature. Though that's not to say I don't like some of his more recent scores like Alice in Wonderland and certainly WW84. I think the biggest gripe is how his stye has taken over the industry and how he created the film score factory farm which spread and homogenized the industry and Hollywood scoring soundscape even more.


Alice in Wonderland?

 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2021 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)



I was a huge Zimmer fan in the beginning but started to lose interest when his scores became more atmospheric in nature. Though that's not to say I don't like some of his more recent scores like Alice in Wonderland and certainly WW84. I think the biggest gripe is how his stye has taken over the industry and how he created the film score factory farm which spread and homogenized the industry and Hollywood scoring soundscape even more.


Alice in Wonderland?


Right, wasn't that Elfman?

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 24, 2021 - 12:07 PM   
 By:   Mephariel   (Member)

Hans Zimmer is for me a very good producer, not composer. No one can program synths this good like him.

But I have two questions:

Why he need 3-11 Additional Composers?
Why he need 3-8 Orchestrators?

The only thing he does alone is synth progamming.


But like I said in a previous post, I like some of Zimmers music... I even like that Inception BRRAAAAWWWWM.
But my question will always be: Is this actually composed by him?
He is not my favourite composer and he'll never be but I would say he is somewhere in my top 15.


Why does Marco Beltrami need 3-11 additional compsoers? Why does John Powell need 3-8 orchestrators? Same reason. Why does Brian Tyler and Michael Giacchino work with assistants? Same reason. Do you ask the same questions?

They do it to dominate a competitive environment. Hans Zimmer is one of the top composers working in Hollywood today. To say anything otherwise is just being disingenuous.

 
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