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 Posted:   May 1, 2021 - 7:53 PM   
 By:   other tallguy   (Member)

It sure has been a good month for Kamen fans!

Yavar


Maybe I haven't been paying attention. How so?

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2021 - 8:04 PM   
 By:   Traveling Matt   (Member)

Maybe I haven't been paying attention. How so?

Intrada released Company Business.

http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.12266/.f?sc=13&category=22848

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2021 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Kamen said in an interview he called up Badelt to help him after cues (or some larger chunk of score) was not accepted. In some cases Badelt just laid over stuff (as I seem to recall), but some promos have cues on them, suggesting he did entire new cues as well.

Kamen's original recordings have not really been heard.



MV actually brought up working on this titles years ago. Before the short-lived ScorePedia.org came out.


My understanding is this recording is purely Kamen. No Badelt.

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2021 - 10:08 PM   
 By:   John W   (Member)

I'd prefer that the film versions also be included as I want to hear the music the way it was in the film, but I'm super psyched about this regardless. A long time coming!

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2021 - 10:36 PM   
 By:   Basil Wrathbone   (Member)


My understanding is this recording is purely Kamen. No Badelt.




Good.

 
 Posted:   May 1, 2021 - 10:37 PM   
 By:   Ratatouille   (Member)

A jewel !

K-Men on X-Men !

An easy CD buy for me !

For the X-Men saga is the powerful... and after there is another to extend... the Powell's one !

 
 
 Posted:   May 1, 2021 - 11:17 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Kamen said in an interview he called up Badelt to help him after cues (or some larger chunk of score) was not accepted. In some cases Badelt just laid over stuff (as I seem to recall), but some promos have cues on them, suggesting he did entire new cues as well.

Kamen's original recordings have not really been heard.



MV actually brought up working on this titles years ago. Before the short-lived ScorePedia.org came out.


My understanding is this recording is purely Kamen. No Badelt.


I could be wrong. Don't take what I said to the bank until the album is officially released.

James

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2021 - 4:34 AM   
 By:   JGouse0498   (Member)

I'd prefer that the film versions also be included as I want to hear the music the way it was in the film, but I'm super psyched about this regardless. A long time coming!

Perhaps that's why it's a two-disc set. Disc 1 is Kamen's original score as composed with Disc 2 being either a remastered OST and/or film versions and bonus material.

This release sounds like it's going to be something very special big grin

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2021 - 8:12 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

So was the OST just Kamen's music or did it include contributions by Badelt?

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2021 - 8:39 AM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

So was the OST just Kamen's music or did it include contributions by Badelt?

I bet this will all be explained in these CD liner notes!

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2021 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

I bet this will all be explained in these CD liner notes!

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2021 - 9:02 AM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

What's the deal with Badelt on this score? Never heard of it.

I'll third that. News to me.


The producer Lauren Shuler Donner was dissatisfied with Kamen's orchestral approach and insisted on electronic overdubs, so Klaus Badelt was brought onboard. There was even a promo with his work for X-Men

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2021 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   MutualRevolver   (Member)

So was the OST just Kamen's music or did it include contributions by Badelt?

Some of the cues on the OST did include Badelt's overdubs

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2021 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

So was the OST just Kamen's music or did it include contributions by Badelt?

Some of the cues on the OST did include Badelt's overdubs


Ah cool, thanks for the clarification.

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2021 - 10:00 AM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

I bet this will all be explained in these CD liner notes!

I'll explain it here. The legal cue sheet for the film credits every single original X-Men cue to Michael Kamen.

 
 
 Posted:   May 2, 2021 - 10:20 AM   
 By:   Mink   (Member)

What's the deal with Badelt on this score? Never heard of it.

I'll third that. News to me.


The producer Lauren Shuler Donner was dissatisfied with Kamen's orchestral approach and insisted on electronic overdubs, so Klaus Badelt was brought onboard. There was even a promo with his work for X-Men


This is not true. As Neil just mentioned, Michael wrote all of the score. Klaus Badelt was brought in by Michael‘s team to simply add electronic textures and not to replace anything.

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2021 - 10:24 AM   
 By:   LeHah   (Member)

Nm

 
 Posted:   May 2, 2021 - 10:27 AM   
 By:   agentMaestraX   (Member)

X-friggin-Titanic!

 
 
 Posted:   May 3, 2021 - 8:23 AM   
 By:   jwb1   (Member)

Easy buy.

 
 
 Posted:   May 3, 2021 - 1:43 PM   
 By:   CinderTech   (Member)

What's the deal with Badelt on this score? Never heard of it.

I'll third that. News to me.


The producer Lauren Shuler Donner was dissatisfied with Kamen's orchestral approach and insisted on electronic overdubs, so Klaus Badelt was brought onboard. There was even a promo with his work for X-Men


This is not true. As Neil just mentioned, Michael wrote all of the score. Klaus Badelt was brought in by Michael‘s team to simply add electronic textures and not to replace anything.


I imagine that's what the official story is supposed to be. I was told that Badelt had actually submitted some demos for consideration of the main composing gig prior to being hired by the studio to essentially spruce up Kamen's score. Even Ottman mentioned in the X2 liner notes that the final score in film was butchered from what was originally written. So while I can imagine MK getting sole credit being a legal thing, I don't know if it really indicates if KB was deliberately hired by him or not. Especially when the official credit of "additional electronic percussion" somewhat downplays his involvement.

What I do want to know if this new release actually will be the score as originally written (with the KB versions of cues as extras), or if this only has the final mix of the score and the OST to work off of.

 
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