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"How would I possibly know? I don't have any Goldsmith after Coma or Capricorn One"
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Come, Come On, Onya (Come Onya?).
IN HARM'S WAY, the score with the (intrusive?) Hawaiian music is from 1965, which was, if I remember correctly, a significant year for the arrival of magnificent and special individuals on the planet Earth.
I have no idea what year CABOBLANCO is from? I'd guess 1980 or 81.
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That "Diving Bell" track that Kev mentions is terrific. I like the score on the whole, and it does have a few good, and lengthy, action pieces on it, but I too would have preferred less of "The Thought of You".
I’ll join the chorus of people wishing this had an original Goldsmith love theme rather than adapting pre-existing music. I gather that this new edition will be adding a lot of source music Jerry was involved in, which will be interesting (Doug Fake told me Jerry got really invested in working on the non-score stuff on this) but I doubt I’ll choose to play it much. Onya might be the only one among us who would enjoy that stuff more than the main score! 
That said Onya, while this is technically Goldsmith's first score of the 80s, it is very much a throwback to an earlier sound. It's shocking to think that he wrote and recorded this a year after Alien and Star Trek: The Motion Picture. It sounds much more like an early 70s (or even late 60s) score. It's closer to 100 Rifles (Hispanic brass writing) or The Chairman (pained harmonies and string writing at times) than it is to anything in its immediate vicinity. Inchon, also written and recorded in 1980, similarly feels like a throwback in a lot of ways but it also has some parts that sound influenced by Star Trek: The Motion Picture (the Klingon music, that is).
Who else besides me absolutely LOVES the first minute and a half or so of “Beckdorf’s House”?
Yavar
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IN HARM'S WAY (the score with the (intrusive?) Hawaiian music is from 1965, which was, if I remember correctly...
Well, if it is from 1965 and I don't know about it, that simply means that I never found a dollar copy of it in the used LP crates.
EDIT: WWII content and dreaded-John Wayne involvement would typically make me avoid this one. That said, if there is Hawaiian music on it, I will look for a copy in the used bins, now that I am fully inoculated.
In 1973 when I traded to get my first LP of IN HARM'S WAY, a good friend in retail told me that it was the hardest Goldsmith album to find, because RCA hadn't kept it in print for very long. I certainly never found one used OR in cutout bins.
However, OnyaBirri, this picture is neither a typical gung-ho, macho WWII movie, nor the expected alpha-male Wayne character and performance. Personally, I'm not a Wayne fan, either; but IN HARM'S WAY offers a good storyline, excellent Panavision framing and b&w photography, and terrific Goldsmith support. It might surprise you; and I expect your choice of cocktails would get you through it appreciatively (along with the choice company of Mrs. Birri).
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That "Diving Bell" track that Kev mentions is terrific. I like the score on the whole, and it does have a few good, and lengthy, action pieces on it, but I too would have preferred less of "The Thought of You".
I’ll join the chorus of people wishing this had an original Goldsmith love theme rather than adapting pre-existing music....
Who else besides me absolutely LOVES the first minute and a half or so of “Beckdorf’s House”?
Yavar
Well, Steiner famously struggled to get the studio to let him write an original song in place of "As Time Goes By," although without success. Then again, CABOBLANCA is no CASABLANCA -- despite the lame ambitions.
I suffered through CABOBLANCA (the film) only once 40 years ago, and it has been many years since I listened to the Prometheus CD at all. I'll have to give it another try; but Yavar, I promise I'll get at least as far in as "Beckdorf's House" so I can give you my answer!
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In 1973 when I traded to get my first LP of IN HARM'S WAY, a good friend in retail told me that it was the hardest Goldsmith album to find, because RCA hadn't kept it in print for very long. I certainly never found one used OR in cutout bins.
However, OnyaBirri, this picture is neither a typical gung-ho, macho WWII movie, nor the expected alpha-male Wayne character and performance. Personally, I'm not a Wayne fan, either; but IN HARM'S WAY offers a good storyline, excellent Panavision framing and b&w photography, and terrific Goldsmith support. It might surprise you; and I expect your choice of cocktails would get you through it appreciatively (along with the choice company of Mrs. Birri).
Thank you, Steven! I will keep my eyes peeled and my ears open!
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I'm encouraged that you might be receptive to the movie, Onya. Before you replied, I was about to edit my post to add that not only do I find this a very appealing performance by Wayne, but HARM'S WAY is a war movie that can engage female viewers through the performances of Patricia Neal and Paula Prentiss, as well as the more limited amount of combat footage.
I wouldn't consider this Goldsmith score within your preferred "nervous angular longhair" style -- but I predict that your favorite cues will be "Positive Identification" and "One-Way Ticket." Wait: I forgot that best half of the former is dialed out of the film, while the latter wasn't even used. You won't get to audition those cues unless you find the album!
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And unless Onya gets the latest Intrada CD edition (OOP now alas, but by far the best sounding release) he will be missing two of the source cues he's so interested in (plus one 90 second score cue).
Yavar
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Do we have one for rap and hip hop yet?
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