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I'm not going to choose between them. Good point -- why should we? We can have it ALL. I need all of them complete, remastered and produced by Mike Matessino - preferably in a beautifully packaged box set. I really thought we would have had that by now but maybe COVID screwed that up. And in this beautifully packaged box set, while we are dreaming of perfection, I would like to have Galaxy's Edge and every single piece Williams wrote for Solo (apparently this is more than just The Adventures of Han) included in that set as well. It should be every unique piece Williams recorded for the entire franchise, if it's going to be a big box set like that. Yavar
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Incredibly, we've never gotten proper expansions of the Prequel scores and although I agree with some of the reservations above, they still contain a wealth of first-class Williams material. As long as each cue is sequenced on its own track, I feel like I can make my own single disc versions of each prequel score which cover all the great highlights and leave out all the boring stuff. Yavar
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Weirdly, I find myself listening to the Prequel score more than the other two groups!
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I'm all-in for 100% complete versions of scores for all 9 films. None of the music is so terrible I wouldn't listen to it (except that lousy casino music from Last Jedi) - for me I always appreciate listening to the music and "watching" the movie in my mind. But that's also why the sequel scores don't work as well for me because the films were so bad that I can't even connect the story to the music.
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I always appreciate listening to the music and "watching" the movie in my mind. But that's also why the sequel scores don't work as well for me because the films were so bad that I can't even connect the story to the music. I have this same problem with all of the prequel scores, to be honest. The sequel scores, even Rise of Skywalker, don't present that problem to me because even though they were a mess in so many ways, unlike apparently many here I didn't HATE them like I do all the prequels. With the prequels, I have to pretend they are John Williams concept albums to be able to enjoy them at all. Across the Stars is a lovely theme but if I allow myself to start remembering any of the Anakin/Padme "love story" my enjoyment is pretty damn tainted. Yavar
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I always appreciate listening to the music and "watching" the movie in my mind. But that's also why the sequel scores don't work as well for me because the films were so bad that I can't even connect the story to the music. I have this same problem with all of the prequel scores, to be honest. The sequel scores, even Rise of Skywalker, don't present that problem to me because even though they were a mess in so many ways, unlike apparently many here I didn't HATE them like I do all the prequels. With the prequels, I have to pretend they are John Williams concept albums to be able to enjoy them at all. Across the Stars is a lovely theme but if I allow myself to start remembering any of the Anakin/Padme "love story" my enjoyment is pretty damn tainted. Yavar Yeah, I wasn't that thrilled with the prequels but they work better than I think they get credit for. But even when all the really cheesy stuff happens throughout all of them (AOTC being the most egregious) I think I'm able to look past it because the music is really good and I don't think the movies really took themselves that seriously. Whereas the sequels seemed to take themselves so seriously which only made their humor even worse because it undercut the sincerity. So the cringe moments are actually cringey because you know they tried. Like Last Jedi - Rian Johnson clearly thought he was making a poignant movie so it's just so cringey to watch it fail when it lacks self-awareness. But like, Jar Jar Binks antics - he's annoying AF but the prequels are so goofy and outlandish it's a little easier for me to watch them at a distance.
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Sorry Jurassic I can't agree with you. The kiddie jokes aside, the Prequels took themselves way more seriously than the Sequels IMO. Much more full of themselves as being important earth-shaking stories...and there was much less redeeming about them. But I realize there's a chasm in the fan community about this which will never be resolved. As much of a terrible mess as Rise of Skywalker was, it still had more in it that was good than the entire prequel trilogy (and that includes the inexplicably higher rated Revenge of the Sith, which I thought was pretty much just as awful as the two preceding films). Yavar
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That's ok Yavar, thanks for explaining! When you saw the prequels (I assume when they came out), did you dislike them immediately? For me I thought they were ok but by the time of Revenge of the Sith I thought the Vader "Noooooo!" stuff was pretty silly, even though the movie felt the most compelling of the three. I think at the time it was just cool to see more Star Wars and more cool ideas: ships, locations, characters, sounds, music, scenarios. Then over time I thought they were ridiculous, the Red Letter Media videos shifted my perspective to really disliking them, but then over time I shifted back to appreciating them for what they are. I also tried reediting Attack of the Clones and while that's a really challenging task, it made me realize that the prequels have a good movie hidden away, it's just some editing and rearranging would help make them better. Like in Attack of the Clones I was able to tone down Anakin's whininess so his character relationships feel more connected. And the end battles were reorganized to make a bit more spatial/temporal sense, because the intercutting between stuff is unnecessarily disjointed.
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This Very Question was asked on Maurizio Caschetto’s John Williams Podcast to Mike Matessino who has Produced, Mixed and Restored tons of John Williams Soundtracks. Mike said at one point during the podcast…that it has come up, the discussions of All of the Star Wars Music. Mike said it needs John Williams and his peoples Blessings as with Disney. Mike said it is out there…and one big question is …How Much Music should be released? All Nine of the Star Wars Music would be a huge task. And a Pretty Penny to Buy.
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If they had just prepped the prequel score releases when the movies came out, this would have been a lot easier + there was no Disney back then. Even now though, the sequels just came out - it should be pretty easy to prep the prequel albums too. Yavar, I think you said you have the academy promos for the prequels? Special Edition re-release in 1997 was also a perfect time for the originals. At least the originals are pretty much intact, huge thanks to the fact that non-digital film practices made it much more complicated to shift music around, so the originals are mostly presented as composed (save for the tracking in Empire).
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Even now though, the sequels just came out - it should be pretty easy to prep the prequel albums too. Yavar, I think you said you have the academy promos for the prequels? Sequels. And I really just have a version a friend made incorporating the unique cues from the promos. Yavar
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Even now though, the sequels just came out - it should be pretty easy to prep the prequel albums too. Yavar, I think you said you have the academy promos for the prequels? Sequels. And I really just have a version a friend made incorporating the unique cues from the promos. Yavar See, I did it again!!! I meant "sequels" as well.
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In terms of both films and scores, the original trilogy was the best. In terms of films, there are more bad Star Wars films than good ones, I'm afraid. It's a pity, because it's sullied the brand of what I experienced as amazing when it was just STAR WARS and THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. In terms of scores, there is no such thing as a bad John Williams Star Wars score, but when I want to listen to a STAR WARS score, I mostly go to STAR WARS or THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK. The others, I play, but much less frequently. Cheers
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This Very Question was asked on Maurizio Caschetto’s John Williams Podcast to Mike Matessino who has Produced, Mixed and Restored tons of John Williams Soundtracks. Mike said at one point during the podcast…that it has come up, the discussions of All of the Star Wars Music. Mike said it needs John Williams and his peoples Blessings as with Disney. Mike said it is out there…and one big question is …How Much Music should be released? All Nine of the Star Wars Music would be a huge task. And a Pretty Penny to Buy. More releases would be fantastic. Hopefully they are aiming future releases at film score collectors who want comprehensive releases. The original albums are all out there for the more casual fans.
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