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 Posted:   Nov 22, 2021 - 1:11 PM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

In my opinion, the 60s through 1971 were the best Barry years.

He had many, many great years during this timespan. In 1968 he scored The Lion in Winter, Deadfall, Petulia, Boom!

In 71: Mary, Queen of Scots, Walkabout, The Last Valley, Diamonds Are Forever, The Persuaders, and Lolita, My Love.

 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2021 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   Ron Pulliam   (Member)

Here's the only-recently released version of the Main Title and Eleanor's Arrival that was originally meant for Barry's 1972 "The Concert John Barry" album:



https://www.discogs.com/release/17492185-Various-Ecoutez-Le-Cin%C3%A9ma-20-Ans-Vol-2-Raret%C3%A9s-Et-In%C3%A9dits-Rare-And-Previously-Unreleased-Cues

Track 2


This is gorgeous! A nice alternative to the soundtrack version Was it released on a CD?

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 22, 2021 - 1:58 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

In my opinion, the 60s through 1971 were the best Barry years.

He had many, many great years during this timespan. In 1968 he scored The Lion in Winter, Deadfall, Petulia, Boom!

In 71: Mary, Queen of Scots, Walkabout, The Last Valley, Diamonds Are Forever, The Persuaders, and Lolita, My Love.



I’d agree absolutely with that. Not that the quality dropped away after then, but most of my fondest JB scores are from that era.

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2021 - 1:53 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I'd say Goldfinger through to The Day Of The Locust was Barry's solid gold period, a heck of a run of film scoring in which he could do no wrong.

Like you said, it's not that his music dropped off a cliff or anything after that, but that period was solid gold.

He had what I consider to be an inconsistent period from after The Day Of The Locust to just before Somewhere In Time, where brilliant stuff like King Kong was mixed up with shaky stuff like Game of Death.

And then from Somewhere In Time to The Living Daylights he had a renewal where, again, he could do little wrong (except the odd thing like Bells), but his music was more 'in a groove' by this time.

Goldfinger to The Day Of The Locust remains his golden period.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2021 - 5:41 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I'd say Goldfinger through to The Day Of The Locust was Barry's solid gold period, a heck of a run of film scoring in which he could do no wrong.

Like you said, it's not that his music dropped off a cliff or anything after that, but that period was solid gold.

He had what I consider to be an inconsistent period from after The Day Of The Locust to just before Somewhere In Time, where brilliant stuff like King Kong was mixed up with shaky stuff like Game of Death.

And then from Somewhere In Time to The Living Daylights he had a renewal where, again, he could do little wrong (except the odd thing like Bells), but his music was more 'in a groove' by this time.

Goldfinger to The Day Of The Locust remains his golden period.

Cheers



And yet I love Game of Death, the persistent action music and gorgeous song (did JB write the lyrics as well? That’s what memory tells me) are real favourites. Maybe because I saw it at the pictures at an impressionable age…

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2021 - 6:06 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Well, I like Game of Death too, but I'm known around these parts for being at the far end of John Barry fanaticism and therefore not representative of the mean, median or mode.

I have to concede that most people consider scores like Game of Death to be, well, not great.

Welcome to my club though.

Cjeers

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2021 - 6:13 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I agree with The day of the Locust, but I'd backtrack from Goldfinger to include From Russia With Love and Zulu.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2021 - 6:16 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

Well, I like Game of Death too, but I'm known around these parts for being at the far end of John Barry fanaticism and therefore not representative of the mean, median or mode.

I have to concede that most people consider scores like Game of Death to be, well, not great.

Welcome to my club though.

Cjeers



It’s a pleasure to be a card-carrying member!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2021 - 11:10 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

The music is great. What I really love is the witty, insightful dialogue between King and Queen.

When I watch the film I liken it to a ( quality) soap. With all the bickering amongst themselves. It positively crackles with heat lines.

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2021 - 3:07 PM   
 By:   George Komar   (Member)

Here's the only-recently released version of the Main Title and Eleanor's Arrival that was originally meant for Barry's 1972 "The Concert John Barry" album:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6VbGNo4taw

https://www.discogs.com/release/17492185-Various-Ecoutez-Le-Cin%C3%A9ma-20-Ans-Vol-2-Raret%C3%A9s-Et-In%C3%A9dits-Rare-And-Previously-Unreleased-Cues

Track 2


This is gorgeous! A nice alternative to the soundtrack version Was it released on a CD?


Only on vinyl, so far.

 
 Posted:   Nov 23, 2021 - 6:30 PM   
 By:   MusicUnite   (Member)

I'd say Goldfinger through to The Day Of The Locust was Barry's solid gold period, a heck of a run of film scoring in which he could do no wrong.

Like you said, it's not that his music dropped off a cliff or anything after that, but that period was solid gold.

He had what I consider to be an inconsistent period from after The Day Of The Locust to just before Somewhere In Time, where brilliant stuff like King Kong was mixed up with shaky stuff like Game of Death.

And then from Somewhere In Time to The Living Daylights he had a renewal where, again, he could do little wrong (except the odd thing like Bells), but his music was more 'in a groove' by this time.

Goldfinger to The Day Of The Locust remains his golden period.

Cheers


I would be more generous than Stephen in regards to Barry's prime-time. I would say from 1960-1974 was his best period. There was a sea change in his style after he moved to the U.S. in 1975. I think we are in rough agreement on his 1975-1979 period. Apart from King Kong, Barry scored mostly American TV films, or worse Starcrash.

But I am afraid Barry lost me from around 1980 onward. Yes, there were flashes of his old self in things like the Bond films, but overall there was a sameness to his music.

Jay

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2021 - 6:24 PM   
 By:   Chris Malone   (Member)

The Lion In Winter is one of the best. I vividly recall playing the Columbia LP on my father’s turntable in my teens and being stunned by the main title.

It was a mesmerising experience—the whole album and, of course, sequences like “Chinon/Eleanor's Arrival”—the music, the choral work, the sound quality. I will never forget, and I will always enjoy playing The Lion In Winter.

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 24, 2021 - 6:45 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

I'd say Goldfinger through to The Day Of The Locust was Barry's solid gold period, a heck of a run of film scoring in which he could do no wrong.

Like you said, it's not that his music dropped off a cliff or anything after that, but that period was solid gold.

He had what I consider to be an inconsistent period from after The Day Of The Locust to just before Somewhere In Time, where brilliant stuff like King Kong was mixed up with shaky stuff like Game of Death.

And then from Somewhere In Time to The Living Daylights he had a renewal where, again, he could do little wrong (except the odd thing like Bells), but his music was more 'in a groove' by this time.

Goldfinger to The Day Of The Locust remains his golden period.

Cheers


I probably would have made the cut off 1976 and King Kong. 1976 had him scoring that film along with Robin & Marian and Eleanor and Franklin. All featured amazingly good scores.

James

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 8:29 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

Barry's best period? I would probably go From Russia With Love to Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 9:23 AM   
 By:   No Respectable Gentleman   (Member)

Oh, how modern historical epics like THE LAST DUEL could do with a score as good as THE LION IN WINTER.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

The music is great. What I really love is the witty, insightful dialogue between King and Queen.

When I watch the film I liken it to a ( quality) soap. With all the bickering amongst themselves. It positively crackles with heat lines.


I could listen to Kate & Peter in that effervescent insulting King's English all day long.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 23, 2021 - 9:53 PM   
 By:   .   (Member)


I could listen to Kate & Peter in that effervescent insulting King's English all day long.



Talking of "King's English"... The line in the script "We're jungle creatures" (also used as a soundtrack cue title) is very memorable, but the film is set in the 1100's and the word "jungle" didn't exist until it was introduced to England as a variant of a Hindi word in the 18th century. The writer, James Goldman, apparently went to great lengths to research the accuracy of his latin texts, but perhaps wasn't quite so careful with his "King's English".
Listened to the Silva re-recording again today. Terrific.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2021 - 8:13 AM   
 By:   filmusicnow   (Member)

A great cue from my all time favorite Christmas score (non musical).

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2021 - 1:51 PM   
 By:   Les Jepson   (Member)


I could listen to Kate & Peter in that effervescent insulting King's English all day long.



Talking of "King's English"... The line in the script "We're jungle creatures" (also used as a soundtrack cue title) is very memorable, but the film is set in the 1100's and the word "jungle" didn't exist until it was introduced to England as a variant of a Hindi word in the 18th century. The writer, James Goldman, apparently went to great lengths to research the accuracy of his latin texts, but perhaps wasn't quite so careful with his "King's English".
Listened to the Silva re-recording again today. Terrific.


Actually, they would have spoken Norman French. Henry II never learned English, or rather the version of English in use in the 12th century.

 
 Posted:   Dec 24, 2021 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   JohnnyG   (Member)

I'd say Goldfinger through to The Day Of The Locust was Barry's solid gold period, a heck of a run of film scoring in which he could do no wrong.

Like you said, it's not that his music dropped off a cliff or anything after that, but that period was solid gold.

He had what I consider to be an inconsistent period from after The Day Of The Locust to just before Somewhere In Time, where brilliant stuff like King Kong was mixed up with shaky stuff like Game of Death.

And then from Somewhere In Time to The Living Daylights he had a renewal where, again, he could do little wrong (except the odd thing like Bells), but his music was more 'in a groove' by this time.

Goldfinger to The Day Of The Locust remains his golden period.

Cheers


I would be more generous than Stephen in regards to Barry's prime-time. I would say from 1960-1974 was his best period. There was a sea change in his style after he moved to the U.S. in 1975. I think we are in rough agreement on his 1975-1979 period. Apart from King Kong, Barry scored mostly American TV films, or worse Starcrash.

But I am afraid Barry lost me from around 1980 onward. Yes, there were flashes of his old self in things like the Bond films, but overall there was a sameness to his music.

Jay



Considering his output after 1980 included scores like "Body Heat", "Frances", "High Road to China", "Out of Africa", "Dances with Wolves" and "The Specialist", it looks like "sameness" is a great virtue!...

 
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