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 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 4:50 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

Kev, you forgot this one






Btw i must see this movie again over christmas.
One of my nan's favourites.
And it has Starsky in it. Lol

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 4:52 AM   
 By:   danbeck   (Member)

what's a "playback version"??


I imagine the playback versions were early versions, recorded before filming, to play during the shooting of the scenes.

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 4:59 AM   
 By:   Bill Carson, Earl of Poncey   (Member)

On zimmer scores, the 'playback version' is you play them backwards and theyre better lol.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 5:08 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

"Kev, you forgot this one...

Btw i must see this movie again over christmas.
One of my nan's favourites"
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Thanks Bill.
I actually bought the film on DVD a few months back for 50p in a Charity Shop, but haven't gotten around to loading it yet.
I must have originally seen it years ago, but can only vaguely remember it, beyond the song sequences.
I might give it a watch over the Holiday period too.
Mazel Tov.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   joec   (Member)

what's a "playback version"??

score cues with FX, wow!!



Not necessarily with FX. Generally, early recordings used to rehearse and lip synch to, Not the final mix which ends up in movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 7:03 AM   
 By:   HalloweenBorg   (Member)

Seriously though, how much 'proper ' score is there?


I’m wondering the same thing.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 8:11 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

"Only one thing to say on this: Top Hole!"
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Haha...I see what you did there smile

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 8:52 AM   
 By:   judy the hutt   (Member)

I love this movie and the music. I dance around with If I were a rich man and I ain't even Jewish. Love the traditions

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 8:53 AM   
 By:   nz   (Member)

Finally the complete soundtrack!A must order! Thank you LaLaLand!

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 8:54 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

Wonderful news!

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 9:03 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

To be utterly predictable: I'm content with the 30th anniversary disc from 2001.

BUT...I want to give a shout-out to Jim Titus' excellent artwork. He's come a long way since he did some stuff for me years and years ago.

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   Jeyl   (Member)

When I saw the cover art, I initially read,

‘Music Composed and Conducted by John Williams’ Soloist, Isaac Stern’

I thought “How sad. Even when you break out on your own, you still get billed below John Williams by merely being associated with him. Getting credit must have been tough back in the day.”

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 9:13 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I thought “How sad. Even when you break out on your own, you still get billed below John Williams by merely being associated with him. Getting credit must have been tough back in the day.”

I suppose the absence of Jerry Bock on the front cover is weirder.

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 9:41 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

That is somehow bizarre indeed... the composer is not mentioned on the cover, only the conductor who adapted the music? Sure, John Williams is more famous than Jerry Brock, but still.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 10:13 AM   
 By:   David Charles   (Member)

This sounds good but I wonder if the reprises of 'Tradition' for the two eldest daughters will be included ie
'They gave each other a pledge unheard of, absurd....'
'They want my blessing, for going over my head, unheard of, absurd....'
I hope so.

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

That is somehow bizarre indeed... the composer is not mentioned on the cover, only the conductor who adapted the music? Sure, John Williams is more famous than Jerry Brock, but still.

Try having a look at the original LP cover. Isaac Stern was actually above Williams on it and Bock/Harnick were only in the billing block on the back. These things are contractual.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 10:56 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Would have been a good chance to redeem Bock's honour, though. But then I don't know anything about the contractual side of things.

 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 11:11 AM   
 By:   Mike Matessino   (Member)

Would have been a good chance to redeem Bock's honour, though. But then I don't know anything about the contractual side of things.

The rules are very specific. But I compensated by having a very big billing block on the back where their names are much more visible. As to how and why it was the way it was, you'd have to get a Ouija board and ask Michael Stewart, Marc Newman and Sol Hurok. Bock & Harnick families & representatives were involved in this and saw everything, and the royalty splits alone took me weeks to research and calculate. So it's a little insulting that you would think something like this was taken lightly. But not really surprising.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 11:33 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

So it's a little insulting that you would think something like this was taken likely. But not really surprising.

Lightly, you mean. I had no insinuation thereof whatsoever. I said I have no idea about the contractual side of things. Not everyone has inside knowledge about this. My take was more that -- in principle -- it would have been nice to have Bock credited on the cover. You have explained why that wasn't the case, and you could have forwarded that view without the over-reaction and personal insult.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 26, 2021 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   Howard L   (Member)

The film adaptation with its scoring has always been a mixed bag for me. All you have to do is hear the Broadway cast album and you'd understand. So much of the humor on stage was missing in the film. And yet the adaptation took a heavy point of view to the play's content, went with it, shed the New York Jewish schtick and accomplished what it set out to do. Highlight for me is the Chava Ballet. Stunning in every aspect. Far superior to the stage version (saw Zero M in a revival btw).

 
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