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My first reaction was to immediately order this, but then I listened again to my excellent Silva re-recording, in superb sound, and I'm not so sure there's a need for anything more.
Still, the new one has sentimental value, having been one of my earliest soundtrack LPs, so I'll end up getting it.
Generally I find the Silva recordings fine but sometimes the 60s films are a hard sound to capture. Particularly Barry’s low trombone writing.
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Not knowing what soundtrack elements survive from 60 years ago, I still feel an opportunity has been missed not to include the traditional Zulu music used in the film, especially as the women's wedding chant inspired the main theme. Two versions of the original album (half of which is not part of the film) and less than 10 minutes of 'expanded' content, however well remastered, seems rather underwhelming, especially compared with the 60th Anniversary edition of The Big Country released by Quartet a few years ago: a full, remastered score, plus stereo and mono versions of the 1950's soundtrack album.
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Not knowing what soundtrack elements survive from 60 years ago, I still feel an opportunity has been missed not to include the traditional Zulu music used in the film, especially as the women's wedding chant inspired the main theme. Two versions of the original album (half of which is not part of the film) and less than 10 minutes of 'expanded' content, however well remastered, seems rather underwhelming, especially compared with the 60th Anniversary edition of The Big Country released by Quartet a few years ago: a full, remastered score, plus stereo and mono versions of the 1950's soundtrack album.
I think your comment is unfair.
You're completely ignoring the fact that The Big Country is just mono in FAKE stereo. There are no true stereo elements available for that particular score.
So, Zulu (a very short score) and The Big Country (a considerably longer score than Zulu) can be hardly compared, even if you should be in the possession of both Quartet releases which is rather doubtful.
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Dec 9, 2021 - 12:30 PM
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KrisTheMan
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Not knowing what soundtrack elements survive from 60 years ago, I still feel an opportunity has been missed not to include the traditional Zulu music used in the film, especially as the women's wedding chant inspired the main theme. Two versions of the original album (half of which is not part of the film) and less than 10 minutes of 'expanded' content, however well remastered, seems rather underwhelming, especially compared with the 60th Anniversary edition of The Big Country released by Quartet a few years ago: a full, remastered score, plus stereo and mono versions of the 1950's soundtrack album.
I think your comment is unfair.
You're completely ignoring the fact that The Big Country is just mono in FAKE stereo. There are no true stereo elements available for that particular score.
So, Zulu (a very short score) and The Big Country (a considerably longer score than Zulu) can be hardly compared, even if you should be in the possession of both Quartet releases which is rather doubtful.
He does bring up a good point. The Twilight Time blu-ray did include an isolated score audio track. Why not have a second disc containing the score and source music using those elements? Film score and album together would be an even more well rounded package.
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Since this release only contains 20 minutes of original music, is it worth picking up? "Testament" by James Horner is a slim 31 minutes, but "Zulu" is even less.
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Since this release only contains 20 minutes of original music, is it worth picking up? "Testament" by James Horner is a slim 31 minutes, but "Zulu" is even less.
Yes. Sure, it's a short score, but it's quality. Quality counts way more than quantity.
I'll take Zulu over two hours of mediocre film music any day of the week.
Cheers
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Since this release only contains 20 minutes of original music, is it worth picking up? "Testament" by James Horner is a slim 31 minutes, but "Zulu" is even less.
The "Zulu" album runs for more than thirty minutes. I currently have three different releases of this album (plus the Silva re-recording and various alternates spread among different Ember samplers) and I'm still getting this because it will be the final word on this score. A one-time investment should be justifiable for any of Barry's 1960s scores.
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Guys, if they'd left out the JB 7 stuff in favour of zulu actual chants (which probly contain fx n dialogue) there would be people whingeing n whingeing on here about the JB 7 stuff left off, and who wants to listen to crappy chanting etc etc. Equally this may not be part of the score theyd licensed but part of the actual soundtrack and therefore more complicated n costly.
Give them a break.
Cant we all be happy about something, rather than whinge whinge? Given all the hoops they have to jump through to get a release out, how about the fact that there are still companies remastering and releasing these scores - isnt that something to be grateful for?
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Yes indeed, let's bear in mind that probably all that exists in master tape format are the John Barry score and 'stamps' recordings.
Let's not criticise Quartet for that.
I have no idea how the traditional African songs used as source music were sourced or recorded. They might have been recorded live on location.
Yes, you can hear them on the Twilight Time isolated score but the volume levels go up and down, and, honestly, most people into this title will be into it for the John Barry stuff.
Those into this title for the traditional African songs are probably a niche within a niche within a niche.
Cheers
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Dec 10, 2021 - 3:57 AM
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Ny
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you can hear them on the Twilight Time isolated score but the volume levels go up and down, and, honestly, most people into this title will be into it for the John Barry stuff.
Practically every expansion we buy is affixed with source cues that not many people would be interested in, because they were available.
Here we're talking about exceptional traditional music, narratively key to the film, and beautifully performed. If the tracks are not available, that's fair enough, but this thread is a good opportunity to clarify that. That's all.
Quartet, I'm quite sure, do the best they can, and aren't so sensitive that they can't absorb such a discussion.
The point about volume levels is helpful.
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