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 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   Spinmeister   (Member)

Wow, unexpected composer casting for this particular project.

Why? Barbie World is just a stone's throw down the road from Wes Andersonville.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 10:14 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Why? Barbie World is just a stone's throw down the road from Wes Andersonville.

Yeah, I suppose cloppety-clop quirk ostinati with oddball instruments are certainly one way to go for this.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 10:22 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Why is Alexandre Desplat scoring Greta Gerwig's latest film unexpected? He scored her last film, Little Women.

Yeah, they've got the history. It's just not conceptually something I would normally associate with Desplat. Curious to see how it will turn out.


Well he's done three French comic strip adaptations one of which was a sequel)already... so doing a Barbie movie narrated by Helen Mirren isn't so strange.




I'm surprised he hasn't done one of the live-action Asterix movies...

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 10:29 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)


Do Gen X's, Gen Z's or Millennials, even get the 2001 parody? Weird way to market this particular film.


I think you are probably aware that 2001: a Space Odyssey is one of the most beloved, revered, and influential films of all time? This is not an obscure reference in the least bit.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 10:31 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)


Yeah, they've got the history. It's just not conceptually something I would normally associate with Desplat. Curious to see how it will turn out.


Lol... Thor... successful composer accepts paycheck to create lively melodic score for Jaques Demy-inspired film for acclaimed director who he has already started a working relationship with. This is easy science my friend!

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 10:35 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

I don't think us stupid nerdy boys realize that this is probably the equivalent of the "MCU for the ladies." My misses in particular has this release date circled in a pink heart on her calendar book, has bought a t-shirt which says "Directed by Greta Gerwig" in the Barbie font, and apparently has a whole day planned where we see Barbie and Oppenheimer and get food in-between. Yes, she grew up collecting Barbies and her grandma still keeps a few of them in the attic "in case they are worth money." The new trailer looks like an unhinged delight. I'll take maybe anything if we can move past this awful franchise rut of superhero movies and see something from a different perspective finally.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 10:57 AM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I don't think us stupid nerdy boys realize that this is probably the equivalent of the "MCU for the ladies."

Maybe. I'm just concerned that this film is going to totally deplete our national resources of irony.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 11:02 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Lol... Thor... successful composer accepts paycheck to create lively melodic score for Jaques Demy-inspired film for acclaimed director who he has already started a working relationship with. This is easy science my friend!

Well, what can I say? It was a weird connection to me. Apparently, it's the most obvious of all things obvious to everyone else. Desplat and Barbie -- a match made in heaven! big grin

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 11:22 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


Do Gen X's, Gen Z's or Millennials, even get the 2001 parody? Weird way to market this particular film.


I think you are probably aware that 2001: a Space Odyssey is one of the most beloved, revered, and influential films of all time? This is not an obscure reference in the least bit.


To the XZMer's? Had no idea they were into artsy fartsy 60's Sci Fi!

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 11:24 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I don't think us stupid nerdy boys realize that this is probably the equivalent of the "MCU for the ladies." My misses in particular has this release date circled in a pink heart on her calendar book, has bought a t-shirt which says "Directed by Greta Gerwig" in the Barbie font, and apparently has a whole day planned where we see Barbie and Oppenheimer and get food in-between. Yes, she grew up collecting Barbies and her grandma still keeps a few of them in the attic "in case they are worth money." The new trailer looks like an unhinged delight. I'll take maybe anything if we can move past this awful franchise rut of superhero movies and see something from a different perspective finally.

Last I checked the MCU was for the ladies.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 11:52 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)


Last I checked the MCU was for the ladies.


I only personally know one woman who cares enough to keep up with the MCU. And I don't know even if she still does being that it was an ex. My own wife resents it, none of her friends show interest in it beyond being dragged to experience with their significant others, same with my own longtime female friends. My neighbors' wives could care less. My female co-workers never bring up when discussing "water cooler" talk. My oldest sister has a seen a few because she has a thirteen year old son. Same story for my wife's sister. Etcetera etcetera. Maybe I live in a bubble. I don't doubt there are women who enjoy the movies and the hunks, but the fanbase is overwhelmingly the dudes.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 11:53 AM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)


To the XZMer's? Had no idea they were into artsy fartsy 60's Sci Fi!


I've seen 2001: A Space Odyssey TWICE in the theaters! And not during its original run, mind you.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 1:27 PM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

If you read the liner notes for the LITTLE WOMEN disc, it was clear that Gerwig was gonna work with Desplat again given half the chance.
She says she was a big movie score fan as a kid (and still is), buying CDs from Tower Records and replaying the film via their scores in her room.
She gushes about first discovering Desplat via the BIRTH film and score CD and how she can't believe she now has a Desplat score in her collection to her own film.
I actually cannot wait to hear what Desplat comes up with for this film.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 2:31 PM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)


Last I checked the MCU was for the ladies.


I only personally know one woman who cares enough to keep up with the MCU. And I don't know even if she still does being that it was an ex. My own wife resents it, none of her friends show interest in it beyond being dragged to experience with their significant others, same with my own longtime female friends. My neighbors' wives could care less. My female co-workers never bring up when discussing "water cooler" talk. My oldest sister has a seen a few because she has a thirteen year old son. Same story for my wife's sister. Etcetera etcetera. Maybe I live in a bubble. I don't doubt there are women who enjoy the movies and the hunks, but the fanbase is overwhelmingly the dudes.


Ms. Marvel, Captain Marvel, Lady Loki, She Hulk, America Chavez, Ironheart, WandaVision, Lady Hawkeye, Wakanda, Lady Cap Amer? Just because Marvel is failing at attracting a female audience according to your personal experience doesn't make it untrue.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 3:28 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

I don't think us stupid nerdy boys realize that this is probably the equivalent of the "MCU for the ladies."

I realize I'm almost certainly in the minority, but the two people in my circle who know Marvel the best are both women. One is a fan who does a complete chronological MCU rewatch (including the television shows, even "Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D." which I understand is not technically MCU) every two years. (Her other obsessions are "Star Wars" and "The Muppets.")

As somebody who neither read comics as a kid nor had Barbies (or G.I. Joes, for that matter), I have a serious question: Though I knew next-to-nothing about Marvel when the movies began, I did understand that the characters had backstories and motivations and situations that generated stories. Does Barbie have that? From the trailer, it seems like the joke is that everything is completely on the surface, all the women are named Barbie and the men named Ken, they have perfect skin and awesome convertibles… but how does that generate more than a sketch? Does this make it the ""MCU for the ladies [who are not my two friends]"?

I've very much enjoyed both of Gerwig's films, and several of Baumbach's, and I'm certain that these concerns didn't escape their notice. But so far, I'm stumped.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 9:31 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)

Barbie does not seems to have the same kind of mythological canon which 80 + years of Marvel Comics do (which the movies largely don't seem to care about). This movie will likely be a satire of vanity and consumerism.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 9:36 PM   
 By:   nuts_score   (Member)


Ms. Marvel, Captain Marvel, Lady Loki, She Hulk, America Chavez, Ironheart, WandaVision, Lady Hawkeye, Wakanda, Lady Cap Amer? Just because Marvel is failing at attracting a female audience according to your personal experience doesn't make it untrue.


Female characters =/= female audience

I actually enjoy many of these characters (particularly their comic book iterations). A few of them have existed for many decades, as well. She-Hulk has been a character for over 44 years. Carol Danvers (AKA Ms. Marvel/Captain Marvel) for over 46 years.

It's a riot that the take "Marvel movie audience is majority male" is such a controversial concept for Solium.

 
 Posted:   Apr 4, 2023 - 11:30 PM   
 By:   ibelin   (Member)

It's a riot that the take "Marvel movie audience is majority male" is such a controversial concept for Solium.

The audience of the Marvel Cinematic Universe (MCU) is majority male. Here's a study which backs up that statement: https://morningconsult.com/2021/12/06/is-gen-z-too-cool-for-marvel/. More specifically, the majority of the MCU's audience consists of white, male millenials.

However, 'male' does not necessarily mean 'masculine'. Many of those white, male millenials are children with adult bodies. They look like adults, but mentally speaking they never developed into adults. (Imagine a grown man keeping up with all the superhero movies that are being churned out!) They base their entire personalities on reboots of shows they grew up with. Since they eat unhealthful processed foods and never get any exercise, many of them have a low amount of testosterone and are thus no better than impotent women.

So even if there are more males than females watching Marvel movies, it doesn't really matter, because most of the audience is feminine anyway. big grin

It's the same thing with Star Wars, by the way. It's no surprise that there's a large overlap between the two fanbases. This is what the average MCU fan is like:

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2023 - 2:22 AM   
 By:   Hurdy Gurdy   (Member)

I've cried A LOT during more recent Marvel & Star Wars films too.
Different reason though.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 5, 2023 - 3:01 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

That fella has just seen himself on his monitor and realised what a p**k he looks.

 
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