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 Posted:   Dec 17, 2022 - 10:46 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I just started the Alcoa section. Will let you know after I finish!

I will say I’m a bit disappointed that for Checkmate you noted Williams scored a whopping 40 episodes of the series, but instead of presenting any of that music since you gravitate towards soundtrack albums you just played a couple familiar cuts from the popular soundtrack album recording instead.

Like, if you’re going to do this deep dive, you should dive into what most Williams fans HAVEN’T already heard, IMO.

The result so far has been that I’m very disappointed whenever a commercial album has been released for early Williams because it means after a little bit of lecture you just skip over it. I’m looking forward to Alcoa Premiere specifically because there was never an album produced and it seems like you’re going to excerpt a lot of samples showing off Williams’s scoring chops rather than just album producing skills.


 Posted:   Dec 17, 2022 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I can understand that, Yavar (and thanks for the comment again!), but as I said earlier, this was never meant to be a walkthrough of every single episode of every single TV show, regardless of sountrack situation. Just a walkthrough of every single TITLE. Hopefully, your criteria will be met when and if I do the webpage about these things. Looking forward to your ALCOA picks, if any! smile

 Posted:   Dec 17, 2022 - 11:58 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Just making sure, but do you have “Of This Time, Of This Place”?


 Posted:   Dec 17, 2022 - 12:02 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)


 Posted:   Feb 15, 2023 - 2:28 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Part 3 out now!

We continue our highly ambitious journey through John Williams‘ television music jungle. In this episode, we cover medical dramas Ben Casey, The Eleventh Hour and Breaking Point, as well as an episode-by-episode walkthrough of Williams’ work for the cornerstone series Kraft Suspense Theatre.

 Posted:   Feb 17, 2023 - 5:44 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

For those of you have listened to the latest episode, I'd love to hear what some of your favourite cues are, if any.

 Posted:   Feb 17, 2023 - 10:45 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

I haven't listened to the latest yet, but I can belatedly answer this question for Part 2, in regards to your fine overview of Alcoa Premiere:

Season 1: that classic Williams fugue from "The Fortress", and that badass action cue from "Moment of Decision" (I wonder if Williams himself performed the super cool solo piano alternating with the strings in that, just a year after he performed as soloist in some similarly complex music for Jerry Goldsmith's Studs Lonigan a year or so earlier)

Season 2: dramatic long-lined theme from "The Glass Palace", soulful strings and solo trumpet-heavy theme with a film noir vibe for the seafaring story "Blow High, Blow Clear", and the cool xylophone-led action for "Of Struggle and Flight". ("Jenny Ray" is lovely too, I agree.)

I will reiterate again that I would love it if you went similarly in depth for Williams's compositions for Checkmate in a future episode, particularly since you noted that half of the soundtrack album's music was composed specifically for that album and wasn't even based on show material! With so many episodes there must be a ton of highlights along the lines of his Alcoa output (if perhaps a bit less diverse), and I would love it if you felt like exploring those sometime rather than just playing a couple soundtrack album cuts I know and love already.


 Posted:   Feb 17, 2023 - 10:51 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thanks for the comment, Yavar!

As I said over on JWFAN:

"Absolutely! If time and energy allow, I will make that webpage that delves further into CHECKMATE (and other things) in more detail."

 Posted:   Feb 18, 2023 - 11:12 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Alrighty then. I'll be back in a month with Part 4.

 Posted:   Feb 24, 2023 - 1:01 AM   
 By:   Nils   (Member)

Really impressed by your research here, Thor! Even as a pretty die-hard Williams fan, there's lots of stuff here I didn't know about (or at least, certainly hadn't heard before). Kudos!

The sound quality of the Kraft Suspense Theatre clips is really good - if separate music elements exist for this, that would have made a wonderful release (this may have been discussed elsewhere..).

 Posted:   Feb 24, 2023 - 10:12 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thank you for the feedback, Nils. There's such a ridiculously amount of research involved in this series (almost as much as my master thesis way back in the early 2000s), so I'm thankful for every comment I get. Was there any particular cue or episode that you liked, or that you took notice of?

 Posted:   Feb 24, 2023 - 10:15 PM   
 By:   Nils   (Member)

Was there any particular cue or episode that you liked, or that you took notice of?

There was a cue you singled out yourself (in part 1 or 2) that was really terrific - but darned if I can remember what show or episode it was from smile. (it's been a few weeks since I listened to those). I've also enjoyed many of the Kraft Suspense Theatre cues. Overall, I think it's amazing how Williams' music has such a high quality already at this very early stage, and how many of his trademarks (in harmony, orchestration etc.) are already in place.

 Posted:   Feb 25, 2023 - 6:06 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

You're probably referring to the montage sequence in "Moment of Innocence" from ALCOA, an amazing cue (and my favourite of the whole series in addition to the bittersweet "Jeeney Ray" music). I agree -- it's stunning how well-developed Williams' style was in the early 60s. He was barely 30 years old.

 Posted:   Feb 26, 2023 - 8:06 AM   
 By:   Nils   (Member)

You're probably referring to the montage sequence in "Moment of Innocence" from ALCOA

Do you mean “Moment of Decision”? smile If so, that’s it. Marvelous cue!

 Posted:   Feb 26, 2023 - 9:15 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Yes, «Moment of Decision», sorry. Blame it on the booze! smile

 Posted:   Mar 7, 2023 - 12:52 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Part 4 out now!

Here’s yet another installment of our complete John Williams television music walkthrough. We’re still in his fruitful 60s period, and in this episode we cover Bob Hope Presents the Chrysler Theatre, Gilligan’s Island, Inside the Movie Kingdom, The Ghostbreaker and Lost in Space. As usual, a lot of this music is not available to hear anywhere else.

 Posted:   Mar 7, 2023 - 8:10 AM   
 By:   jands53   (Member)

This is great (as the previous parts). I really enjoyed learning about a TV show I had never heard of before, several I had heard of but never heard the music, as well as Gilligan's Island (brings back memories hearing it as a kid).

Nice work!

 Posted:   Mar 7, 2023 - 3:05 PM   
 By:   Joe 1956   (Member)

Lost In Space - John Williams

GNP box - The Reluctant Stowaway
Predominantly library re-recordings, but there are some original cues as broadcast:

Disc 1

03 - Escape Velocity - Robot Control - Meteor Storm - Defrosting
Track 3 is all original, however the end of the cue is mislabeled as “Defrosting” when it’s actually the cue which precedes “The Weightless Waltz” (No idea as to what the cue name is, and it‘s part of the whole of “The Weightless Waltz” on the LLL box, therefore no hint).

05 - The Monster Rebels - A Walk In Space - Finale
All is a re-recording except for “Finale" (”the “To Be Continued” part) which is actually taken from the end of “The Hungry Sea”, (the cue named “Strange Visitor” on the LLL box).

LLL 50th box
Disc 1
11 - Weightless Waltz
Disc 2
31 - Space Play-On - Strange Visitor

 Posted:   Mar 8, 2023 - 6:48 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thank you for the heads-up on which parts are original cues and which are re-recordings, Joe.

 Posted:   Mar 9, 2023 - 1:46 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

It was fun to realise that one of the most memorable pieces of music from Gilligan's Island was by Johnny Williams (as he would've been credited on the series).

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