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 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 4:47 AM   
 By:   jacky   (Member)

I darn love all those alternate covers, very nice jobs!

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 5:56 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Yes, it's interesting the many different versions of FIRST BLOOD posters and covers... my clear favorite is though the key art they actually went with, and which is also on the cover of the Intrada CD releases, with Rambo in the foreground and the police cars and helicopter with headlights on in the rainy background. That's just perfect for the film.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 6:33 AM   
 By:   Ado   (Member)





That is a picture of the great DP Andy Laszlo with Stallone, just FYI

All three Goldsmith Rambo scores are fantastic.
The third film might have one of the all time most gorgeous and sweeping scores for one of the all time bad movies

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 6:57 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

It's not clear whether the Studio Canal Bluray will be compatible with North American players... I'm hoping they also release a digital version like they did with Total Recall a couple years ago.

I really want to see that documentary on Goldsmith's music. And a better cleaner print would be nice to watch too!

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

The Beach Bum said:

A lot of people forget (and younger fans are unaware) that when First Blood originally ran in American theaters, there was no accompanying soundtrack album release. There was no release of The Secret of NIMH score (from the same year) either.

I remember being sorely disappointed by the non-appearance of both scores, but alas, that's just the way it was back then. The Final Conflict, Raggedy Man and The Challenge also went unreleased. It was only after First Blood (and NIMH) were released overseas six months later that an album appeared. (Of course we had to wait five years for The Final Conflict to be released, a decade for Raggedy Man, and over twenty years for The Challenge)!


Nicolai P. Zwar said:

Yes, I searched right and left for a soundtrack for FIRST BLOOD, and was so happy when I finally found it, months after I had seen the film.

That's puzzling because Goldsmith had a test pressing of the mastered album dated October 13, 1982, which is prior to the release of the film.

DavidCoscina said:

It's not clear whether the Studio Canal Bluray will be compatible with North American players... I'm hoping they also release a digital version like they did with Total Recall a couple years ago.

I really want to see that documentary on Goldsmith's music. And a better cleaner print would be nice to watch too!


I've heard through the grapevine that Lionsgate will have a Rambo 4k set next year.

 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 11:09 AM   
 By:   The Beach Bum   (Member)


That's puzzling because Goldsmith had a test pressing of the mastered album dated October 13, 1982, which is prior to the release of the film.


I'm guessing he mixed an album right after the sessions -- but the US album release was held-up until First Blood's UK premiere and didn't appear until Spring of 1983.

At the time I was on the mailing list for STAR, Jemm's Soundtracks, A-1 Record Finders and Cine Monde Records (who later changed their name to Intrada) and none of them listed First Blood in their catalogs until spring of '83.

Ah, the days of hard-copy mail order catalogs and "allow 4-6 weeks for delivery". roll eyes

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 18, 2022 - 9:04 PM   
 By:   Thierry Schreurs   (Member)


That's puzzling because Goldsmith had a test pressing of the mastered album dated October 13, 1982, which is prior to the release of the film.


To dear Neil S. Bulk:

How do you know that? Do you mean that you have this FIRST BLOOD vintage test pressing in your own soundtrack collection or that you just once saw it?

Anyway, as a FIRST BLOOD completist, this would be a holy grail for me...

And maybe rec engineer Alan Snelling could tell us the story?
I wish I had asked him...back in augustus 1989 when I met him at the Barbican in London..

Maybe you could publish some stills of this test pressing here? Thank you.

P.S. I used to have a test pressing of OUTLAND years ago but I eventually sold it, as an idiot I was...

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2022 - 12:12 AM   
 By:   Thierry Schreurs   (Member)

Here is some recollection trivia by Alan Snelling about FIRST BLOOD sessions in ABBEY ROAD by the way...
This was indeed recorded in Augustus 1982.

My Abbey Road: Alan Snelling #AbbeyRoad90
https://www.abbeyroad.com/news/my-abbey-road-alan-snelling-abbeyroad90-3121

""One of the most memorable recordings I did in Studio One was First Blood with Jerry Goldsmith in August 1982. This was the first Rambo film. I was 25 and flying by the seat of my pants recording an 80 piece orchestra straight to 3-track (!) tape. It was an incredible adrenaline rush as there was no ‘fix it in the mix’ scenario, it was live straight to film!""

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2022 - 12:31 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)



Nicolai P. Zwar said:

Yes, I searched right and left for a soundtrack for FIRST BLOOD, and was so happy when I finally found it, months after I had seen the film.

That's puzzling because Goldsmith had a test pressing of the mastered album dated October 13, 1982, which is prior to the release of the film.



It's not that puzzling. Even if a soundtrack album were released concurrently with the film release, that doesn't mean every record store carried it. I remember that I searched for that score and was happy when I finally found it. That was just my subjective experience, living in a more rural area in those years. It’s not as if you could just order anything from the Internet back then.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2022 - 2:57 AM   
 By:   Thierry Schreurs   (Member)

Based upon the german poster...




 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2022 - 7:13 AM   
 By:   Paul MacLean   (Member)

Even if a soundtrack album were released concurrently with the film release, that doesn't mean every record store carried it.

True, and Regency Records (who released the original First Blood album in the US) was an independent label, whose distribution was probably more spotty than a major label.

That said, Regency also released Inchon, and I was easily able to find that album (via mail order) at the time of the film's release.

As Beach Bum mentions above, I can attest that none of the mail order retailers who specialized in soundtracks were selling a First Blood album until Spring of '83 -- at which point all of them suddenly had it in stock.

 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2022 - 8:22 AM   
 By:   NSBulk   (Member)

How do you know that? Do you mean that you have this FIRST BLOOD vintage test pressing in your own soundtrack collection or that you just once saw it?

I had access to it and used it as a reference while preparing the score for the new vinyl release from Quartet. I looked at it as my way of getting to include Mr. Goldsmith in the production of the set.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2022 - 10:15 AM   
 By:   Thierry Schreurs   (Member)

Thank you Neil.
I am looking forward to have this RAMBO trilogy Quartet LP set in hands and see the final result of your new FIRST BLOOD presentation than to compare it with the Intrada 2 CD set.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 19, 2022 - 10:21 AM   
 By:   Thierry Schreurs   (Member)

To David Coscina: your link to the image was probably defect.
I guess I fixed it.

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2022 - 10:39 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

This is my favourite


To David Coscina: this one you mean?
Your link to the image was probably defect.
I guess I fixed it.


Thankyou! I had a tough time trying to get the link to show. I have this poster hanging over my composing desk.

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2022 - 1:13 PM   
 By:   Replicant006   (Member)

Would you believe I don't own a single one of the scores in this franchise?? Shame on me. I guess I wasn't focusing on purchases of Goldsmith's music at the time, which I now regret. I've considered tracking down and paying extra for those previous releases by our beloved labels but have held off, wondering of the possibilities for any re-issues or new sound upgrades in the near future.

 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2022 - 1:23 PM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

Would you believe I don't own a single one of the scores in this franchise?? Shame on me. I guess I wasn't focusing on purchases of Goldsmith's music at the time, which I now regret. I've considered tracking down and paying extra for those previous releases by our beloved labels but have held off, wondering of the possibilities for any re-issues or new sound upgrades in the near future.

I would certainly recommend First Blood. The subsequent scores are good too but the original is abundant with amazing set pieces and various statements of that beautiful sombre Rambo theme Goldsmith composed.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2022 - 2:08 PM   
 By:   KeV McG   (Member)

Yes. I agree with David.
FIRST BLOOD is a masterpiece.
One of the best action adventure scores ever written, with a memorably wistful and humanistic main theme and action scoring set-pieces from Goldsmith at the top of his game.
RAMBO II is very good too, featuring some more amazing action highlights with added tin foil coated over the orchestra.
I do like RAMBO III as well, but nowhere near as much as the first two scores. It does contain some lovely new themes though.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 20, 2022 - 5:58 PM   
 By:   BrenKel   (Member)

Top tier Goldsmith thats for sure. It wasn’t until the Intrada 2cd set that I was aware the score was performed by the brilliant National Philharmonic Orchestra. Curious to understand why the orchestra was not credited on the original LP release as it was on the Rambo: First Blood, Part II LP.

 
 
 Posted:   Nov 21, 2022 - 9:32 AM   
 By:   Thierry Schreurs   (Member)

Thanks to all members for your own FIRST BLOOD experience, recollection and feedback, both about movie and score.

With its 40th anniversary this Fall, we just couldn't miss the opportunity to give a tribute to what is possibly the utimate serious action-adventure film score.

FIRST BLOOD film and score were at the exact switch point between the 70ies paranoid gritty serious era and the 80ies more entertainment friendly pop corn blockbuster era.

1982-1983 was a peak in many things in regards of motion picture art with a lot of still old-fashioned stuff. It also was the end of an era, with its late seventies flavor.

Regarding Jerry Goldsmith, the last totally serious drama thing he scored was probably UNDER FIRE.
Dare I say that GREMLINS and SUPERGIRL killed it all afterwards?

I am sorry to say that BACK TO THE FUTURE, THE GOONIES, GHOSTBUSTERS so to say the Spielberg/ Zemeckis/Columbus/Reitman stuff killed it all either...?

As a matter of fact, FIRST BLOOD was my very first Jerry Goldsmith LP....which means that I started this film music journey just before everything started to get weaker.....with fortunately a lot of exceptions.....both movies and scores regarded.

 
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