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 Posted:   Sep 6, 2024 - 11:36 AM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

Oscars? Please explain the pattern between a great score and an Oscar that doesn't rely on haphazard reasons. Provide examples. Good luck.

Well, exactly.

 
 Posted:   Sep 9, 2024 - 1:03 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2024 - 6:35 AM   
 By:   losher22   (Member)

So wait, Interscope's pending CD release is for the songs from the film, not the score? It appears that ArkSquare's release is the same, but in a paper sleeve. So is there a pending CD release of Guðnadóttir's score that we know about?

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2024 - 6:22 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

beware of drones !

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2024 - 10:19 AM   
 By:   JeffM   (Member)

So wait, Interscope's pending CD release is for the songs from the film, not the score? It appears that ArkSquare's release is the same, but in a paper sleeve. So is there a pending CD release of Guðnadóttir's score that we know about?

I was trying to figure that out. The tracklist is blurred out on Amazon so I can't tell if they are song titles or score track titles.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 14, 2024 - 4:42 PM   
 By:   henry   (Member)

Why is this film in talks for a Best Picture Oscar nomination, it currently has a 62% on Rotten Tomatoes?

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2024 - 1:44 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)

Why is this film in talks for a Best Picture Oscar nomination, it currently has a 62% on Rotten Tomatoes?

Because David Zaslav's secret orbiting armed satellites are targeting the home addresses of the members of AMPAS.

 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2024 - 4:21 AM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

Why is this film in talks for a Best Picture Oscar nomination, it currently has a 62% on Rotten Tomatoes?

Slow Oscar year?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 15, 2024 - 5:44 AM   
 By:   martyn.crosthwaite   (Member)

Why is this film in talks for a Best Picture Oscar nomination, it currently has a 62% on Rotten Tomatoes?

Slow Oscar year?


it has been slow for many years with very few quality films being made Movies such as Joker 1 and 2 often being given 5 star reviews by the critics because there is nothing else for them to to write about. Good movies are still being made by the Independent film producers and often go straight to bluray and not talked about so when Oscar time arrives they are either ignored or forgotten. A film such as The Joker would never ever have been Oscar nominated say for example in the 1970's for all the obvious reasons.

 
 Posted:   Sep 18, 2024 - 1:48 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2024 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   scatmanjack   (Member)


The 'songs' album by Gaga:

https://variety.com/2024/film/news/lady-gaga-joker-2-album-harlequin-13-songs-1236154532/

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2024 - 5:33 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

Score album info:

https://filmmusicreporter.com/2024/09/24/joker-2-folie-a-deux-score-album-details/

TRACKLIST:

1. It’s Showtime (2:50)
2. That Dumb Laugh (1:59)
3. Same Ol’ Joker (1:40)
4. The Real You (2:32)
5. Back on TV (1:24)
6. Buy Me a Drink First? (1:13)
7. Trial of the Century (1:42)
8. My Mother Had Me Committed (1:32)
9. The Saints (1:17)
10. The Other Half (1:43)
11. Social Services (1:41)
12. Knock Knock (1:39)
13. Doppelgänger (2:23)
14. That’s All, Folks (0:54)
15. Old Neighborhood (1:14)
16. Uh Oh, I’m in Trouble (1:34)
17. Voices (2:25)
18. There Is No Joker (1:50)
19. It’s All Theater (2:03)


James

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2024 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   losher22   (Member)

So, no CD for the score, but an Interscope CD for the song album?

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2024 - 12:36 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

So, no CD for the score, but an Interscope CD for the song album?

Are you surprised? it has always been like this, with very few exceptions...
VA albums are always more appreciated by labels.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2024 - 1:34 PM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

Why is this film in talks for a Best Picture Oscar nomination, it currently has a 62% on Rotten Tomatoes?

You're taking a Rotten Tomatoes rating as gospel three weeks before the movie's been released.

If this movie has half the wit of the first, it'll be worth something.

The first one was the only example I can think of, in the genre I call the meth-era cinema of sadism, that had any brains or wit to it at all.

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2024 - 9:04 PM   
 By:   losher22   (Member)

Saw the film last night. What a disappointment. I absolutely loved the first Joker, but this one just turned out to be frustrating and unnecessary. I loved nearly every scene starring Phoenix as either Arthur or Joker, and thought Gaga did well as Harley. And what many have heard and read is correct: this does have heavy elements of a “musical,” for sure. There were probably around 15 songs that were sung, all as part of Arthur’s/Joker’s delusions, and at first I didn’t mind their inclusion. But it became so frequent in the latter half of the movie that it just annoyed the hell out of me and killed the whole experience.

However, Guðnadóttir‘s score, when it did make an appearance (more scant than in the first film, I guess not surprisingly), was excellent. I got the distinct sense that her music this time around was intentionally developed further from the first movie’s - it’s more dark, bleak, foreboding, and in some cases more driving, more inciting, more enveloping. It’s really too bad there appears to be no CD planned for the score, because it was definitely the highlight of the second film.

My old jaded self is not surprised that the score is digital, whereas the soundtrack (the musical/sung songs from both Phoenix and Gaga) is on CD. I think I also read that Gaga is releasing a companion album of her own. Jeez.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2024 - 9:26 PM   
 By:   Alain P   (Member)

Saw the film last night. What a disappointment. I absolutely loved the first Joker, but this one just turned out to be frustrating and unnecessary. I loved nearly every scene starring Phoenix as either Arthur or Joker, and thought Gaga did well as Harley. And what many have heard and read is correct: this does have heavy elements of a “musical,” for sure. There were probably around 15 songs that were sung, all as part of Arthur’s/Joker’s delusions, and at first I didn’t mind their inclusion. But it became so frequent in the latter half of the movie that it just annoyed the hell out of me and killed the whole experience.

However, Guðnadóttir‘s score, when it did make an appearance (more scant than in the first film, I guess not surprisingly), was excellent. I got the distinct sense that her music this time around was intentionally developed further from the first movie’s - it’s more dark, bleak, foreboding, and in some cases more driving, more inciting, more enveloping. It’s really too bad there appears to be no CD planned for the score, because it was definitely the highlight of the second film.

My old jaded self is not surprised that the score is digital, whereas the soundtrack (the musical/sung songs from both Phoenix and Gaga) is on CD. I think I also read that Gaga is releasing a companion album of her own. Jeez.


Dang, sorry to hear the film is no good…

Good news is that the score is being released on CD:

https://www.diggersfactory.com/vinyl/321642/hildur-gunadottir-joker-folie-a-deux-score-from-the-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-cd

Doesn’t say if it’s pressed or a CD-R, but if it’s the same as their release of THE FLASH then it should be pressed.

 
 Posted:   Oct 6, 2024 - 11:22 PM   
 By:   losher22   (Member)


Good news is that the score is being released on CD:

https://www.diggersfactory.com/vinyl/321642/hildur-gunadottir-joker-folie-a-deux-score-from-the-original-motion-picture-soundtrack-cd

Doesn’t say if it’s pressed or a CD-R, but if it’s the same as their release of THE FLASH then it should be pressed.


Cool, thank you, Alain! Would never have noticed this!!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2024 - 12:47 AM   
 By:   Toutred20   (Member)

I saw the movie today but can't remember where the songs fit into the score album, can someone please help me

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 11, 2024 - 3:59 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

We saw the film this evening and I’m struggling to think of anything that stops it from being a 10/10 film. It was, simply put, stunning. I’m still collecting my thoughts and will probably expand on this in the “rate the movie” thread, but the score was note-perfect. The songs were thoroughly justified even though I wouldn’t personally buy the song-related CD (out of context they’re not my cup of tea).

Anyone who’s seen it and tries to tell you it’s a musical, you can tell them from me they’re an idiot smile. It’s like saying that Kill Bill or Natural Born Killers are musicals. Iosher22 only said “elements of musicals” so that doesn’t count.

Best new film, and best use of score, I’ve seen in ages.

 
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