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Instead of charging $40 for one (Scarface LP), they might cost a kilo of Coke (or Pepsi) 
DISCLAIMER!!! JUST...SAY...NO...
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Fingers crossed for an expanded 007's !
Crossing here, too.
MOONRAKER?
LICENCE TO KILL?
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Been a La La Land Records fan for years. Thanks for all you guys do and for the update.
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Anticipation........
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Fingers crossed for an expanded 007's !
Yes definitely hoping for more expanded 007 releases, let’s hope
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“See you next Tuesday” has another meaning in the UK. LOL. 
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Anticipation........
That would need 3cds, at least.
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Dare I say it? Yes, I do dare so here it is:
Fingers crossed...for something else than all those endless 90ies reissues and expansions from always the same composers! Period.
Thierry, LLL literally just announced a remastered expansion of War of the Worlds, a 1950s score by Leith Stevens. Your complaint certainly has poor timing (and might generally be better directed towards Varese Sarabande, except that their last two Club expanded titles were of 1980s scores…by Carter Burwell and Charles Bernstein, two worthy composers who rarely have their scores expanded!)
What 90s expansions exactly do you wish LLL had NOT released this past year? Sakamoto’s Wuthering Heights? Williams’s Sabrina? Barry’s Chaplin? Or Arnold’s Tomorrow Never Dies? (Did I even omit any?) I would think all of these would appeal to fans of earlier eras.
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Dare I say it? Yes, I do dare so here it is:
Fingers crossed...for something else than all those endless 90ies reissues and expansions from always the same composers! Period.
Thierry, LLL literally just announced a remastered expansion of War of the Worlds, a 1950s score by Leith Stevens. Your complaint certainly has poor timing (and might generally be better directed towards Varese Sarabande, except that their last two Club expanded titles were of 1980s scores!)
What 90s expansions exactly do you wish LLL had NOT released this past year? Wuthering Heights? Sabrina? Chaplin? Or Tomorrow Never Dies? (Did I even omit any?) I would think all of these would appeal to fans of earlier eras.
Yavar
Yavar, I do not "complain" of what they do release, I am fair enough to be glad for all those who liked them.
From the titles you said, I did buy SABRINA and TORRROW NEVER DIES and I like them very much, no question.
And I am currently awaiting my JURASSIC PARK/THE LOST WORLD new albums as well so I have no problem supporting Lalaland activities (through Music Box retailer all right, not directly).
I just regret (not complain) they don't care anymore (for whatever reasons) of the SEVENTIES material, whether it's feature film or TV stuff soundtracks! I miss the times of all those terrific QUINN MARTIN's 2 CD sets (I bought all of them straight) and these wonderfull UNIVERSAL heritage collection of course, AIRPORT'80 on top.
WAR OF THE WORLD may be great, its certainly a classic in all aspects, but this is the 50ies indeed.
Important release anyway, no question.
My problem is the huge remaining hole in between the modern and the classics, I mean the inspired, gritty and audacious 1968>1978 years. This is the main era which gets my interest now and it remains under-represented (especially the TV music) compared to all other eras, especially the 1985>2005 one which has been overexploited at nauseam in the recent years by all the big three (Varese Club, Intrada, Lalaland).
This is partly a matter of composers generation but also some A-list composers vs. B-list composers (sized after their movie/TV projects I mean, not sized after their talent).
Indeed: where are the Lalo Schifrin, David Shire (*), Michael J. Lewis, Morton Stevens (**), Gerald Fried (**), Fred Karlin, Dave Grusin, Oliver Nelson, Laurence Rosenthal, Leonard Rosenman, Robert O Ragland (***), Lee Holdridge, Ken Wannberg, John Scott, Dominic Frontiere, Don Costa, Ernie Freeman, Robert Drasnin, Billy Goldenberg, Patrick Williams, John Cacavas albums?
Do people only buy and/or listen to Goldsmith, Williams, Horner, Bernstein, Barry, Morricone, Herrmann ?
No love outside the big names? Or maybe the more sensitive isssue: no good sale figures outside the big names?
(*) best soundtrack album release of 2023 so far IMHO? David Shire's KILLER BEES/ISN'T IT SHOCKING/HARPY Caldera release, without question. So if Caldera can do this, why the big three wouldn't/could't do anymore, especially since they were used to do some times ago?
(**) great move as well from Dragon's Domains which started promising Morton Stevens and Gerald Fried collections.
(***) for Robert O Ragland this is complicated allright since all pre-1984 material is said by reliable sources to have been destroyed in '84 LA quake.
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Sept 12 -- Scarface (Limited edition Vinyl pressing)
MV
Hay, MV. I thought you were getting out of doing vinyl.
You said, "Vinyl is waaaaaaaaaaaay more expensive to produce than a CD. A total waste of money imo. So little profit to be made"
https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=4&threadID=143595&archive=0
Its usually contractual in order to get the CD released.
A lot of times it sadly is, so we do what we can when we can to make all parties happy
MV
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Dare I say it? Yes, I do dare so here it is:
Fingers crossed...for something else than all those endless 90ies reissues and expansions from always the same composers! Period.
Thierry, LLL literally just announced a remastered expansion of War of the Worlds, a 1950s score by Leith Stevens. Your complaint certainly has poor timing (and might generally be better directed towards Varese Sarabande, except that their last two Club expanded titles were of 1980s scores!)
What 90s expansions exactly do you wish LLL had NOT released this past year? Wuthering Heights? Sabrina? Chaplin? Or Tomorrow Never Dies? (Did I even omit any?) I would think all of these would appeal to fans of earlier eras.
Yavar
Yavar, I do not "complain" of what they do release, I am fair enough to be glad for all those who liked them.
From the titles you said, I did buy SABRINA and TORRROW NEVER DIES and I like them very much, no question.
And I am currently awaiting my JURASSIC PARK/THE LOST WORLD new albums as well so I have no problem supporting Lalaland activities.
I just regret (not complain) they don't care anymore (for whatever reasons) of the SEVENTIES material, whether it's feature film or TV stuff! I miss the times of all these terrific QUINN MARTIN's 2 CD sets (I bought all of them straight) and these wonderfull UNIVERSAL heritage collection of course, AIRPORT'80 on top.
WAR OF THE WORLD may be great, its certainly a classic in all aspects, but this is the 50ies indeed.
Important release anyway, no question.
My problem is the huge remaining hole in between the modern and the classics, I mean the inspired, gritty and audacious 1968>1978 years. This is the main era which gets my interest now and it remains under-represented (especially the TV music) compared to all other eras, especially the 1985>2005 one which has been overexploited at nauseam in the recent years by all the big three (Varese Club, Intrada, Lalaland).
This is partly a matter of composers generation but also some A-list composers vs. B-list composers (sized after their movie/TV projects I mean, not sized after their talent).
Indeed: where are the Lalo Schifrin, David Shire (*), Michael J. Lewis, Morton Stevens (**), Gerald Fried (**), Fred Karlin, Dave Grusin, Oliver Nelson, Laurence Rosenthal, Leonard Rosenman, Lee Holdridge, Ken Wannberg, John Scott, Dominic Frontiere, Don Costa, Ernie Freeman, Robert Drasnin, Billy Goldenberg, Patrick Williams, John Cacavas albums?
Do people only buy and/or listen to Goldsmith, Williams, Horner, Bernstein, Barry, Morricone, Herrmann ?
No love outside the big names? Or maybe the more sensitive isssue: no good sale figures outside the big names?
(*) best soundtrack album release of 2023 so far IMHO? David Shire's KILLER BEES/ISN'T IT SHOCKING/HARPY Caldera release, without question. So if Caldera can do this, why the big three wouldn't/could't do anymore, especially since they were used to do some times ago?
(**) great move as well from Dragon's Domains which started promising Morton Stevens and Gerald Fried collections.
To answer your questions -- YES! Williams, Horner and Goldsmith far outsell every other composer by miles! Followed by Zimmer, Barry and Elfman. You know what's a great thing about owning and operating a record label for 21 years...you actually have things like numbers to back up your releases and decisions! You know what sells and what doesn't. You know a Danny Elfman genre score will sell but his dramatic stuff not so much. You know that titles from the 80s and 90s sell because those people LOVE those decades and that sound...and, as sad as it is to write this, they are alive and have disposable income! You ever wonder why titles are re-released ad nauseum? It's because more than the people on this board are always discovering our little niche world and are bummed when they miss out on a Blue Max or Superman or Twister. Are we supposed to say, piss off -- you snooze you lose?
No other label in the last 21 years has done more for TV soundtracks than La-La Land Records. Classics like Star Trek, Munsters, He Man, Streets of San Francisco exist because of us as well as modern day shows like BTAS, X-Files, The Flash and Battlestar Galactica. Look at the 600+ titles we have released since 2002 and you will see that a large percentage of them have been TV soundtracks. If we could do more we would, but these contracts are buried or nonexistent, the elements lost to the ages...or studio folks just don't want to spend the time and do the research, but when we finally have the stars align and get something out by some miracle it's still not enough for some. People like you, while supporting the labels, gripe and complain about what is released and what isn't coming out but show little appreciation of all the hard work that goes with every title. We aren't a dream factory, but we do as best as we can...and then some. Believe me, if it was easy, we would all be releasing some amazing works and taking chances on lesser-known composers or titles, but we have to leave the lights on somehow.
Or, you can do what Matt and I did in 2002 -- go to friends and family, max out credit cards and start your own label and see what miracles you can pull off.
In other words, to quote the great Chief Brody, "Come down here and chum some of this shit!"
MV
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This year we are going to do something different. When we announce our Black Friday titles starting at 12:01 am pst on Nov 24 the titles will be available to order, as opposed to the following Tuesday like we usually do. We hope to have all the titles in stock and ready to ship starting Monday November 27 when we get back into the office (fingers crossed)
Is there any chance they can be released at 12:01 EST like last year so people on the east coast would also be able to order?
Thank you
You know, we might actually do that. I'll discuss with Matt. Thanks for the idea
MV
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Thanks you guys for everything you have released and getting titles out to us this year. I can only imagine how hard it is to pull it all together. I'll keep buying and doing what I can to keep you in business!
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Dare I say it? Yes, I do dare so here it is:
Fingers crossed...for something else than all those endless 90ies reissues and expansions from always the same composers! Period.
Thierry, LLL literally just announced a remastered expansion of War of the Worlds, a 1950s score by Leith Stevens. Your complaint certainly has poor timing (and might generally be better directed towards Varese Sarabande, except that their last two Club expanded titles were of 1980s scores!)
What 90s expansions exactly do you wish LLL had NOT released this past year? Wuthering Heights? Sabrina? Chaplin? Or Tomorrow Never Dies? (Did I even omit any?) I would think all of these would appeal to fans of earlier eras.
Yavar
Yavar, I do not "complain" of what they do release, I am fair enough to be glad for all those who liked them.
From the titles you said, I did buy SABRINA and TORRROW NEVER DIES and I like them very much, no question.
And I am currently awaiting my JURASSIC PARK/THE LOST WORLD new albums as well so I have no problem supporting Lalaland activities.
I just regret (not complain) they don't care anymore (for whatever reasons) of the SEVENTIES material, whether it's feature film or TV stuff! I miss the times of all these terrific QUINN MARTIN's 2 CD sets (I bought all of them straight) and these wonderfull UNIVERSAL heritage collection of course, AIRPORT'80 on top.
WAR OF THE WORLD may be great, its certainly a classic in all aspects, but this is the 50ies indeed.
Important release anyway, no question.
My problem is the huge remaining hole in between the modern and the classics, I mean the inspired, gritty and audacious 1968>1978 years. This is the main era which gets my interest now and it remains under-represented (especially the TV music) compared to all other eras, especially the 1985>2005 one which has been overexploited at nauseam in the recent years by all the big three (Varese Club, Intrada, Lalaland).
This is partly a matter of composers generation but also some A-list composers vs. B-list composers (sized after their movie/TV projects I mean, not sized after their talent).
Indeed: where are the Lalo Schifrin, David Shire (*), Michael J. Lewis, Morton Stevens (**), Gerald Fried (**), Fred Karlin, Dave Grusin, Oliver Nelson, Laurence Rosenthal, Leonard Rosenman, Lee Holdridge, Ken Wannberg, John Scott, Dominic Frontiere, Don Costa, Ernie Freeman, Robert Drasnin, Billy Goldenberg, Patrick Williams, John Cacavas albums?
Do people only buy and/or listen to Goldsmith, Williams, Horner, Bernstein, Barry, Morricone, Herrmann ?
No love outside the big names? Or maybe the more sensitive isssue: no good sale figures outside the big names?
(*) best soundtrack album release of 2023 so far IMHO? David Shire's KILLER BEES/ISN'T IT SHOCKING/HARPY Caldera release, without question. So if Caldera can do this, why the big three wouldn't/could't do anymore, especially since they were used to do some times ago?
(**) great move as well from Dragon's Domains which started promising Morton Stevens and Gerald Fried collections.
To answer your questions -- YES! Williams, Horner and Goldsmith far outsell every other composer by miles! Followed by Zimmer, Barry and Elfman. You know what's a great thing about owning and operating a record label for 21 years...you actually have things like numbers to back up your releases and decisions! You know what sells and what doesn't. You know a Danny Elfman genre score will sell but his dramatic stuff not so much. You know that titles from the 80s and 90s sell because those people LOVE those decades and that sound...and, as sad as it is to write this, they are alive and have disposable income! You ever wonder why titles are re-released ad nauseum? It's because more than the people on this board are always discovering our little niche world and are bummed when they miss out on a Blue Max or Superman or Twister. Are we supposed to say, piss off -- you snooze you lose?
No other label in the last 21 years has done more for TV soundtracks than La-La Land Records. Classics like Star Trek, Munsters, He Man, Streets of San Francisco exist because of us as well as modern day shows like BTAS, X-Files, The Flash and Battlestar Galactica. Look at the 600+ titles we have released since 2002 and you will see that a large percentage of them have been TV soundtracks. If we could do more we would, but these contracts are buried or nonexistent, the elements lost to the ages...or studio folks just don't want to spend the time and do the research, but when we finally have the stars align and get something out by some miracle it's still not enough for some. People like you, while supporting the labels, gripe and complain about what is released and what isn't coming out but show little appreciation of all the hard work that goes with every title. We aren't a dream factory, but we do as best as we can...and then some. Believe me, if it was easy, we would all be releasing some amazing works and taking chances on lesser-known composers or titles, but we have to leave the lights on somehow.
Or, you can do what Matt and I did in 2002 -- go to friends and family, max out credit cards and start your own label and see what miracles you can pull off.
In other words, to quote the great Chief Brody, "Come down here and chum some of this shit!"
MV
MV, you can talk about the realities of running this business until you're blue in the face, but you'll never get through to the complainers on this board. If they had their way with your label, they'd suggest and recommend and tell you what you ain't doing right, and lead you down the quick path to bankruptcy through their ignorance. I'm sure those big composers we see so much of and the re-releases help make possible all of the other stuff that doesn't sell as well.
I'm sure I feel as others do when considering the amazing things you've released in the past 20 years.
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Sep 4, 2023 - 1:57 PM
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The Shadow
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Thank you MV for having taken your precious time to answer me that fast.
I will not quote you, this would be rather too long.
Be assured that I will go on supporting Lalaland activities with regular purchases, no question.
I rather know I have to be very thankfull for all the incredible stuff you have already released within the last 20 years indeed, the ice on the cake being Dominic Frontiere's THE INVADERS imho, a dream come true since I was a child.
So I certainly am in debt with you "artistically speaking".
Of course I also understand the constraint of the business model, the break-even rules, the necessary cash-flow of such profesionnal activities of yours. I certainly do respect that.
I only wished the big figure incomes from sales hits would help to finance more obscure things maybe adressed to a narrow niche in the niche. I understand I am therefore engaged in a sort of hazardous wishfull thinking trip.
I am 57, I am passionate by film and TV music for 40 years now.
Please consider I am not just a debutant, ignorant or anything else with some selfish or childish behavior.
I really LOVE that stuff and be assured that I DID EVERYTHING I could from my own small belgian position to help things to do happen. BREAKOUT, THE CHALLENGE, FIRST TO VICTORY world premieres on Prometheus Records....do these things any mean something to you? I was involved in them for the record. But this was 20 years ago all right...
Be assured that if I'd ever win at the lotery, I would launch my own soundtrack label with friends immediately, no question.
A lifetime dream actually.
Well now, what do you think of Quartet, Caldera and Dragon's Domain editorial choices?
Do you like the kind of stuff they are proposing or isn't this just not your taste, that question haunts me.
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