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The orchestra sounds drunk half the time.
That's how they were paid this time around.
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Remember loads of clanging percussion, some Americana, loads of sneaking around music.
Followed by a 23 minute string of balls out action cues leading to a "Kelly's Heroes" style unused end credit sequence. I was actually surprised at how much I loved this score. This one took me by surprise.
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This is Horner gold! Always been a fan of this one
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STAR TREK in the jungle...what could we want more than this?
Funny my dad took me to see Star Trek III on the Deuce in 1984 (cause it was cheaper to see a Hollywood movie next to another theatre showing porn than around the corner along Broadway) and it was a Double Bill with Uncommon Valor, which preceeded Trek. We got to the theatre early, sitting through the final 20 minutes. I don't remember anything except I was too young to appreciate, let alone notice the similar music.
Years later...it really is one of my top ten Horner effort.
AND I had a feeling a reissue of this was coming. I'd thought it would have been LLL, but I love Quartet's efforts lately and happy it's out again from them.
And with Chris Malone's remastering too.
Looking forward!
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https://www.slashfilm.com/1416901/the-mask-of-zorro-oral-history-interviews/
Indeed it was film editor Thom Noble who called the score 'insane' and "this is the most arrogant score I have ever come across, because you don't care about anything except your music.
Ah that infamous interview where Noble also implied that a composer could never do better than his picks on the temp track*. Now who is being arrogant
* And naming Bolèro, which probably the most obvious choice for Zorro… next to Aranjuez.
That would be the Terry Rawlings school of editing,
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Apr 24, 2024 - 10:56 AM
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Thor
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This is Horner gold! Always been a fan of this one
I wish James Horner's music from the 90ies and 2000' would have been that good. Horner almost said it all IMHO in a very short 6 years time, between WOLFEN (1981) and ALIENS (1986)....although later efforts like ROCKETEER, CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER, TITANIC, THE PERFECT STORM and WOLF TOTEM are terrific.
I very miss his rousing and brassy STAR TREK like music.
I know a lot of Horner fans share your view, but mine is different. My absolute favourite Horner period -- the absolute zenith -- is the (roughly) 15 years between the mid 80s and the late 90s. THAT's where my true Horner love lies. Of course, there are still many things I like in the early 80s, and after the late 90s (in fact, my alltime favourite Horner score is from 2008), but it's in that period I find his strongest stuff.
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Apr 24, 2024 - 12:23 PM
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Erik Woods
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I wish James Horner's music from the 90ies and 2000' would have been that good. Horner almost said it all IMHO in a very short 6 years time, between WOLFEN (1981) and ALIENS (1986)....although later efforts like ROCKETEER, CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER, TITANIC, THE PERFECT STORM and WOLF TOTEM are terrific.
I know... stuff like SNEAKERS, SEARCHING FOR BOBBY FISCHER, THE PAGEMASTER, LEGENDS OF THE FALL, BRAVEHEART, APOLLO 13, CASPER, BALTO, THE SPITFIRE GRILL, DEEP IMPACT, THE MASK OF ZORRO, IRIS, THE FOUR FEATHERS, HOUSE OF SAND AND FOG, THE LEGEND OF ZORRO, ALL THE KING'S MEN, THE SPIDERWICK CHORONICLES, and AVATAR are all really lame!
LOL!
-Erik-
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Apr 24, 2024 - 2:40 PM
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Sartoris
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Indeed, I forgot SNEAKERS, BALTO, THE PAGEMASTER, ONCE UPON A FOREST, APOLLO 13 and SPIDERWICK CHRONICLES which are are all great.
But I guess there is no comparison with WOLFEN, STAR TREK II, KRULL, BRAINSTORM, GORKY PARK, STAR TREK III, 48 HOURS, SOMETHING WICKED THIS WAY COMES, COCOON, ALIENS, AN AMERICAN TAIL, ALAMO JOBE, THE JOURNEY OF NATTY GANN, PROJECT X....and UNCOMMON VALOR.
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With movies changing in the 90‘s and the new millennium it is no surprise that scores changed, too.
Composers who proved themselves so many times during their early career stages had to adapt to the new way producers and directors wanted scores to sound.
Sure, even the biggest athletes slow down or can’t surprise at some point anymore.
But Horner is definitely one of those legendary ones who always delivered magnificent work.
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