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 Posted:   Sep 10, 2024 - 10:36 AM   
 By:   DavidCoscina   (Member)

This is indeed puzzling... Oh well, I can pass on it.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2024 - 1:17 PM   
 By:   Jason LeBlanc   (Member)



It's one of my favorite score but so there is way less material than on the complete score you've released. What is the point? Why not release a complete score of Reloaded, Revolutions or Animatrix instead? The mind boggles.

Hi Laurent. We do not have the rights to the music from any of the Matrix sequels, or from the Animatrix. This release is our way to celebrate the 25th anniversary of a very important score from our catalog, pairing it with brand-new artwork which we think turned out very cool. Sorry to hear that the release isn't for you, and we hope some of the other stuff we have announcing soon will be more up your alley.

https://www.facebook.com/varesesarabanderecords/videos/1036461824606230?comment_id=1047087663871862&reply_comment_id=1036416208224539

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2024 - 1:30 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)



It's one of my favorite score but so there is way less material than on the complete score you've released. What is the point? Why not release a complete score of Reloaded, Revolutions or Animatrix instead? The mind boggles.

Hi Laurent. We do not have the rights to the music from any of the Matrix sequels, or from the Animatrix. This release is our way to celebrate the 25th anniversary of a very important score from our catalog, pairing it with brand-new artwork which we think turned out very cool. Sorry to hear that the release isn't for you, and we hope some of the other stuff we have announcing soon will be more up your alley.

https://www.facebook.com/varesesarabanderecords/videos/1036461824606230?comment_id=1047087663871862&reply_comment_id=1036416208224539


Honest effort. Turns out it isn't all about us. Good to be reminded occasionally.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2024 - 3:21 PM   
 By:   MD   (Member)

This was released because of option to have new artwork?

Wouldn´t be best celebration of 25th Anniversary to release again 2CD complete album?

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2024 - 3:35 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

This was released because of option to have new artwork?

Wouldn´t be best celebration of 25th Anniversary to release again 2CD complete album?


As Advise and Consent notes above, it isn't all about us. Clearly, they believe (and may be right, for all I know) that there's an audience for this that isn't rabid for an hour and forty minutes of this (at the price of two CDs), but would appreciate highlights. I can't say those people are crazy.

Granted, their pre-release hyperbole was hard to justify.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2024 - 3:36 PM   
 By:   pete   (Member)

"Expanded release" and "extended track list". I think access to a dictionary would have resulted in words that were a little more .... precise.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2024 - 3:48 PM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

I think Don Davis THE MATRIX is one of the best film scores of the 1990s, that's why I do have a couple of Don Davis' THE MATRIX releases already. I see no particular point to re-buy this again (or to rebuy any other future release of this score), simply because the previous Varèse Sarabande releases (both of them actually) more than satisfied my own personal need for this score. So I think it's great if this is re-released, let it be continue to be released. In whatever formats people wish. It's a great score.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2024 - 4:35 PM   
 By:   Advise & Consent   (Member)

This is indeed puzzling... Oh well, I can pass on it.

Speaking of puzzling, I still don't get what all the fuss is, and was, about these scores. I'm not averse to dense or complicated music, quite the contrary, but I haven't decoded these works yet. I'd be very interested in hearing your views on the topic as a well regarded and respected poster on FSM.

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2024 - 5:26 PM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

Granted, their pre-release hyperbole was hard to justify.

Yeah, that’s the main fault I find with Varese over this move.

Yavar

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2024 - 8:46 PM   
 By:   Smaug   (Member)

Granted, their pre-release hyperbole was hard to justify.

Yeah, that’s the main fault I find with Varese over this move.

Yavar


Yeah, the whole - you will not be disappointed!!!! And I’m not, but I’m also not blown away. Ah well…I’ll take it

 
 Posted:   Sep 10, 2024 - 10:03 PM   
 By:   Landstander   (Member)

Who's been running Varese these past couple years anyway?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2024 - 12:43 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Both camps already have their preferred presentation out - the OST and the C&C. This is just a nice bonus, really, for anyone interested. So I don't really understand why the C&C folks have their knickers in a twist.

I really like the fact that Davis himself curated the extra music, and the reasonable extension which probably won't harm the overall listening flow of the OST. It subscribes to my soundtrack ideology - "make albums, not archives!".

Could they have called it "The Don Davis Edition" or something in the promotion? Sure, but doesn't really matter. I think this was well worth the hype - beautifully repackaged, sensibly extended. If I'd had the money, I would have plunged for the vinyl.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2024 - 1:04 AM   
 By:   AdoKrycha007   (Member)

What a moronic edition... The selection of material for this new album is a poor joke.

Fortunately, I have the Varese's complete CD edition with Davis' autograph,
the value of which is only increased by such crappy reissues.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2024 - 4:54 AM   
 By:   MikeP   (Member)

I dunno. Doesn't bother me. They could issue a CD/ LP with the slightly different tracklist at an affordable price for people who don't live and die by C+C releases. So they did. Doesn't help those who missed the 2 disc set, but this is for a more general soundtrack listener.

And i really like the artwork.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2024 - 4:57 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

I dunno. Doesn't bother me. They could issue a CD/ LP with the slightly different tracklist at an affordable price for people who don't live and die by C+C releases. So they did. Doesn't help those who missed the 2 disc set, but this is for a more general soundtrack listener.

Or for crazy folks like me, who enjoy soundtracks in a slightly different manner.

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2024 - 5:34 AM   
 By:   Solium   (Member)

I dunno. Doesn't bother me. They could issue a CD/ LP with the slightly different tracklist at an affordable price for people who don't live and die by C+C releases. So they did. Doesn't help those who missed the 2 disc set, but this is for a more general soundtrack listener.

Or for crazy folks like me, who enjoy soundtracks in a slightly different manner.


De-expanded?

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2024 - 5:52 AM   
 By:   Prince Damian   (Member)

He must be sober.big grin

 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2024 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   johnbijl   (Member)

Aside from the odd notoriously ridiculously hyperbolic member of this forum ( roll eyes ), I think the general reaction is more puzzlement than frustration.

We have to consider that this released is not aimed at the filmscore-community, but rather at the LP-cover-collection folk of this world. Nothing wrong with that. They are hardly a new bunch, even in the circle of filmscore aficionados (where Goldsmith used to call 'm the 'bottle cap collectors' razz).

What's new (only kinda) is that this release and it's pre-announcements were coming from a boutique filmmusic label with a long history focussing on the scores, and not the collectors value. From that point is an odd release. If this was an announcement from mondo or such, expectations would have been different.

I think we can conclude that Varèse isn't just the label it used to be and regularly focusses on different kind of collectors than the film *music* aficionados as we are (or speaking for me: as I am).

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 11, 2024 - 9:38 AM   
 By:   lonzoe1   (Member)

Both camps already have their preferred presentation out - the OST and the C&C. This is just a nice bonus, really, for anyone interested. So I don't really understand why the C&C folks have their knickers in a twist.

I really like the fact that Davis himself curated the extra music, and the reasonable extension which probably won't harm the overall listening flow of the OST. It subscribes to my soundtrack ideology - "make albums, not archives!".

Could they have called it "The Don Davis Edition" or something in the promotion? Sure, but doesn't really matter. I think this was well worth the hype - beautifully repackaged, sensibly extended. If I'd had the money, I would have plunged for the vinyl.


You're definitely in the minority, who thinks that.

The artwork is all this release got going for it.

What would've been worth the hype (for me) was if Varese had released a complete deluxe edition of Davis' House On Haunted Hill for that film's 25th anniversary instead. And October is next month.

 
 Posted:   Sep 12, 2024 - 4:05 AM   
 By:   Nicolai P. Zwar   (Member)

Both camps already have their preferred presentation out - the OST and the C&C. This is just a nice bonus, really, for anyone interested. So I don't really understand why the C&C folks have their knickers in a twist.

I really like the fact that Davis himself curated the extra music, and the reasonable extension which probably won't harm the overall listening flow of the OST. It subscribes to my soundtrack ideology - "make albums, not archives!".

Could they have called it "The Don Davis Edition" or something in the promotion? Sure, but doesn't really matter. I think this was well worth the hype - beautifully repackaged, sensibly extended. If I'd had the money, I would have plunged for the vinyl.


You're definitely in the minority, who thinks that..


Well, ironically, he's apparently not buying it anyway, even though this edition seems to be specifically made just for him. :-)

Neither am I, I must say. The original Varèse Sarabande Deluxe Edition was already excellent. THE MATRIX is one of my favorite film scores, and that edition was a breeze to listen to, the 77 minutes was a great representative listen, and I had no need for a further expansion. Nevertheless, I also have the 2CD expansion. So I'm well set.

So like some, I am not quite sure who is the target audience for this new MATRIX edition, most soundtrack collectors obviously prefer to have one of the previous releases. I guess this new and rather short MATRIX edition is more for the Vinyl fans who want a cool looking album to put on display, and the CD is more or less an afterthought. I don't know, we'll just see how well it sells. In any case, Varèse Sarabande's 2CD set remains available for digital download and streaming, so it's not "gone".

 
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