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 Posted:   Feb 23, 2025 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

Seriously, how tangled are the rights to the 1962 score?



I wonder if there are issues with the family of one of the stars, as there may have been with another great early 60s Universal score whose original tracks are still sadly unreleased.

 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2025 - 2:53 PM   
 By:   msmith   (Member)

You can find Herrmann's original 1962 soundtrack found on YouTube.com.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRYg9q4_WhM&list=PLDC9D87881D85708D

 
 Posted:   Feb 23, 2025 - 8:49 PM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

Uh..where did my initial post go? Strange!

The post that launched this thread? It's still there.


I somehow had "ignored" my self big grin. Now fixed.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 3:24 AM   
 By:   moolik   (Member)

Is there a lot missing?

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 4:02 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I'm curious myself to know how long the complete score is.

Of course, we haven't got the details yet to know whether it's a case of score on one disc, the original album on another, or whether it's 2CDs because the complete score is more than 75 minutes, but we'll find that out tomorrow.

I'm in whatever because I love this music.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 5:12 AM   
 By:   TerraEpon   (Member)

When I saw the title my first thought was "Oh huh, are they including the Bernstein too?"


 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 6:14 AM   
 By:   Big X   (Member)

I just sampled the score on Youtube, this looks great, I am also in, thank you Quartet.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 6:36 AM   
 By:   johnonymous86   (Member)

I'm assuming the two releases of the Herrmann recording available on Discogs are both unmentionables?

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 6:52 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

The score recording for the original J. Lee Thompson film has never been legally released, no.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 6:53 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

I just had a thought. Is it possible to do an edit on the 1991 film's score to "recreate" the cues/sequencing of the J. Lee Thompson film? I'm guessing it is, but I don't know how hard it would be.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 7:07 AM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)

If I remember correctly, the 1961 score had some emotional/romantic material that didn't make it into the 1991 score, which was pretty much all suspense/thriller music.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 7:11 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

The film program on the album is one hour and three minutes which includes some alternates.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 7:17 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

The boots that have appeared of the 1962 score were not entirely complete. Also Thompson did some editing and looping of certain cues so going back to the original sources (if they still survive) would be ideal.

Bernstein's reimagining of the score was brilliantly executed and marked the beginning of his association with Scorsese. He was the best possible person to adapt the score and mimicked Herrmann's style so well that even though extensive reworking of the original score was required it felt completely original to Herrmann.

I still remember the impact on the audience when I went to see it. No one had ever heard a score like that in digital surround and the impact was overwhelming. Most loved it. A few didn't but it certainly proved that Herrmann could seize an audience's emotions in 1991 as completely as he had in 1962.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   villagardens553   (Member)

I'm assuming the two releases of the Herrmann recording available on Discogs are both unmentionables?

I bought one of those in the mid to late 90s at the Intrada store in San Francisco. At the time I wasn't thinking bootleg, I just bought it. I thought the sound was good. Wonder what the source was.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 9:05 AM   
 By:   Yavar Moradi   (Member)

The film program on the album is one hour and three minutes which includes some alternates.

20 minutes more than the original album program — nice!

Yavar

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 9:53 AM   
 By:   BornOfAJackal   (Member)

My experience of seeing the Scorsese Cape Fear for the first time was in the kind of theater you don't find any more, a fully THX-certified auditorium with a 50,000-watt sound system.

This was in north Dallas at the Northpark mall, the General Cinema I & II. Auditorium I is the one I speak of, where other late '80s–early '90s big screen extravaganzas played like the restored Spartacus in 70mm, Disney's Aladdin in 70mm, The Abyss, etc.

This was the same auditorium with the observation booth in the back where Spielberg & Co. held the final public sneak of Jaws in early 1975.

The sound of that Herrmann score in a new recording really sent the shivers up-and-down the spine like slow malenky lizards right at the main title. With the mix favoring the music in many places, it was the purest musical experience I've ever had on a film. You can imagine how Alex North's Spartacus score penetrated the viewer there, too.

This album's a real dream come true for me. Thanks Quartet Records, Amblin Entertainment and NBC/Universal!

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 9:56 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

The film program on the album is one hour and three minutes which includes some alternates.

Thanks for that Jeff. I'm guessing then that disc one is the film program with alternatives and disc two is the original 1991 soundtrack album that ran 43 minutes. I'm all poised and ready to buy!

Cheers

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 10:49 AM   
 By:   Scott Bettencourt   (Member)



I still remember the impact on the audience when I went to see it. No one had ever heard a score like that in digital surround and the impact was overwhelming. Most loved it..


Hearing a new recording of Herrmann music with modern sound techniques in a modern theater was definitely the highlight of my Cape Fear screening experience.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 10:55 AM   
 By:   CindyLover   (Member)


Hearing a new recording of Herrmann music with modern sound techniques in a modern theater was definitely the highlight of my Cape Fear screening experience.


Mine was the night's weather over the cinema turning heavily rainy just in time for the climax - which enhanced the effect.

 
 Posted:   Feb 24, 2025 - 1:38 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Great news. I always found the volume on the previous album to be a bit low. Hopefully this sounds fuller.

 
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