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...the ...Overture ... on the Rhino disc is actually a cut-down version. The full piece runs about six-and-a-half minutes (I have a mono tape of it somewhere). I've never heard the complete version. Can you describe how it differs from the Rhino release? Are the "Shenandoah" and "Endless Prairie" segments extended?
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Does it also have the overlap error mentioned by Joe Caps? No, since the Overture was taken directly from the film print.
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I've never heard the complete version [of the overture]. Can you describe how it differs from the Rhino release? Are the "Shenandoah" and "Endless Prairie" segments extended? Are you actually going to make me drag out the tape and listen to it?
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Are you actually going to make me drag out the tape and listen to it? Constitutionally, your tape has the right to remain silent.
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Why would Tiomkin sue Newman? If there was some kind of breach-of-contract issue, then MGM would have been the defendant in the suit.
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The short overture is the only one ever heard by the public. Newman and Darby wrote and recorded one that was longer and the Rhino only has some of it- badly edited and put together. Anybody have access to the Alfred Newman Collection at USC to see how long the original overture was?
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The "Overture" is actually an assembly of several separate recordings: a "Promised Land" chorus-and-orchestra intro superimposed over an orchestral excerpt of the "How The West Was Won" principal theme, followed by a full exposition of "I'm Bound For The Promised Land," "Shenandoah," "Endless Prairie," "The Ox Driver's Song," and a climactic "I'm Bound For The Promised Land" finale. Any (or all) of these components had (or may have had) far more complete renditions, and there may even have been other components (such a vocal-and-orchestra recording of "No Goodbye") that were considered, if not recorded.
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It's a pity that Ken Darby didn't write a companion volume to his "Hollywood Holyland" book, that would have revealed all the wonderful musical facets to the HTWWW score, since this was obviously the most joyous of all the Newman-Darby collaborative efforts.
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