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 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   Gunnar   (Member)

Excuse my ignorance, but what would the people who know this score liken it to? Thor, did you just raise your hand? wink

Much appreciated,
Gunnar

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 10:54 AM   
 By:   theOzman   (Member)

What exactly is a "PROMOTIONAL BOOTLEG?"

Just out of curiosity, who produced this for PROMETHEUS?

- OZ

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

VERY nice! Just for fun, does anyone have an "image" of the original Academy "for your consideration" pressing they can post here?

Like ALIEN, the score would be impossible to recreate today with all the layered textures and improvised percussion and vocals.

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 11:19 AM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

I mean...is this a real release? Is this legal? Is there any information about the sound quality? Does this have liner notes?

In the last 20 years you've never heard of PROMETHEUS RECORDS???????


well, you must admit it sounds a little obscure

the "digital prmotional LP transfer thing"

the 2000 limited

and there-s not even a tracklisting

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 11:26 AM   
 By:   Squiddybop   (Member)

If it's from the LP, wouldn't that make this the track list?

1. In Search of Unicorns (04:05)
2. The House (02:37)
3. Dogs, Ponies & Old Ruins (02:15)
4. Visitations (02:54)
5. Reflections (03:16)
6. The Killing of Marcel (03:14)
7. The Love Montage (04:49)
8. Blood Moon (03:16)
9. Land of the Ums (01:45)
10. Nightwatch Rise (02:55)
11. The Waterfall and the Final Chapter (04:21)

I've only heard a few snippets of the score, but I liked what I heard enough to know that I'd buy it on CD in a heartbeat, which I did this morning. I remember really liking Blood Moon.

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 11:30 AM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

Recordman would probably be able to provide some more information about the bootleg LP. It's been around for a decade or two.

Prometheus is saying in their item description that they mastered from this LP release.

They had NOTHING to do with that release. It's the only known source for the music.

You guys are just looking for any chance to start trouble, aren't you...

This release was legitimately licensed from the rights holders.

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 11:39 AM   
 By:   theOzman   (Member)

Recordman would probably be able to provide some more information about the bootleg LP. It's been around for a decade or two.

Prometheus is saying in their item description that they mastered from this LP release.

They had NOTHING to do with that release. It's the only known source for the music.

You guys are just looking for any chance to start trouble, aren't you...

This release was legitimately licensed from the rights holders.



Well, this definitely brings up an interesting argument that this CD, in a huge way, and more or less, legitimizes "bootlegging" and that they can now be seen as a reliable source for providing, or saving, long lost film scores.

Nice flip of the coin here.

- Oz

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 11:44 AM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)

In other words the release is legit, but the source isn't.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 11:48 AM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

In other words the release is legit, but the source isn't.

No.


The source used was the original ACADEMY "For your Consideration" LP that was sent out by Mr. Williams then agent.

It helped get him a nomination for BEST SCORE that year.

everything that followed (including all of the bootleg editions) used this pressing as it's source.


Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 11:54 AM   
 By:   Katie @ SAE   (Member)

If it's from the LP, wouldn't that make this the track list?

1. In Search of Unicorns (04:05)
2. The House (02:37)
3. Dogs, Ponies & Old Ruins (02:15)
4. Visitations (02:54)
5. Reflections (03:16)
6. The Killing of Marcel (03:14)
7. The Love Montage (04:49)
8. Blood Moon (03:16)
9. Land of the Ums (01:45)
10. Nightwatch Rise (02:55)
11. The Waterfall and the Final Chapter (04:21)

I've only heard a few snippets of the score, but I liked what I heard enough to know that I'd buy it on CD in a heartbeat, which I did this morning. I remember really liking Blood Moon.


This is correct. We just received 2 of the 3 a few hours ago and I took a look for everyone. Track listing is the same with 11 tracks.

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 11:56 AM   
 By:   EdG   (Member)

Ford,

To you and everyone who brought this score to cd at last, a heartfelt thank-you.

Ed

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 12:05 PM   
 By:   theOzman   (Member)

In other words the release is legit, but the source isn't.

No.


The source used was the original ACADEMY "For your Consideration" LP that was sent out by Mr. Williams then agent.

It helped get him a nomination for BEST SCORE that year.

everything that followed (including all of the bootleg editions) used this pressing as it's source.


Ford A. Thaxton





So... if we understand you correctly, the master source for this CD, apparently, is an original ACADEMY "For your Consideration" LP sent out to Academy members in 1972, and in not from one of the later "BOOTLEG" LPs?

Then why is it being advertised/marketed as mastered from a "BOOTLEG?"

- Oz

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 12:08 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

In other words the release is legit, but the source isn't.

No.


The source used was the original ACADEMY "For your Consideration" LP that was sent out by Mr. Williams then agent.

It helped get him a nomination for BEST SCORE that year.

everything that followed (including all of the bootleg editions) used this pressing as it's source.


Ford A. Thaxton





So... if we understand you correctly, the master source for this CD, apparently, is a "BOOTLEG" of the original FYC "PROMOTIONAL" LP and is not mastered from the original LP that was sent out to Academy members in 1972?

- Oz



The source used was an ORIGINAL LP sent out to the Academy Music Branch.

All other releases flow from this pressing.



Ford A. Thaxton

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 12:09 PM   
 By:   Don   (Member)

So... if we understand you correctly, the master source for this CD, apparently, is a "BOOTLEG" of the original FYC "PROMOTIONAL" LP and is not mastered from the original LP that was sent out to Academy members in 1972?
- Oz



In his answer Mr. Thaxton said that the "source used" (for the CD, I presume) was the original FYC-LP.

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 12:19 PM   
 By:   Ford A. Thaxton   (Member)

So... if we understand you correctly, the master source for this CD, apparently, is a "BOOTLEG" of the original FYC "PROMOTIONAL" LP and is not mastered from the original LP that was sent out to Academy members in 1972?
- Oz



In his answer Mr. Thaxton said that the "source used" (for the CD, I presume) was the original FYC-LP.



Give the man a cigar...

BINGO!



Ford A. Thaxton

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 12:20 PM   
 By:   theOzman   (Member)

So... if we understand you correctly, the master source for this CD, apparently, is a "BOOTLEG" of the original FYC "PROMOTIONAL" LP and is not mastered from the original LP that was sent out to Academy members in 1972?
- Oz



To me it read that the source used was the original "for your consideration"-LP....




I'd changed what I had written above... but am wondering why the title is listed on SAE as essentially having been mastered from a "BOOTLEG" and not from a the Academy promo LP? Kind of a stupid slip of the tongue if this is not the case. Having the word "bootleg" mentioned within the confines of any legitimate release is just plain bad marketing. Still, it appears this is legally licensed and that's good enough for me.

Still, who is the producer on this title?

- Oz

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 12:23 PM   
 By:   MikeJ   (Member)

Who do you think is the producer?

What's your point?

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 12:28 PM   
 By:   Membership Expired   (Member)

SAE has now removed the line of this release being digitally transferred from the LP boot.

 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 12:32 PM   
 By:   theOzman   (Member)

Who do you think is the producer?

What's your point?




I don't know. That's why I'm asking a point blank, should be easy to answer, question. For all I know it could be a well known "bootlegger." But as you indicate, it must be pretty obvious.

Now lets move on and celebrate film music.

Any takers?

- Oz

 
 
 Posted:   Dec 11, 2007 - 12:36 PM   
 By:   Morricone   (Member)




The source used was an ORIGINAL LP sent out to the Academy Music Branch.

All other releases flow from this pressing.



Ford A. Thaxton


You're talking about the real world, Ford.

HERE, as been stated again and again, composer promos and guild (Academy) promos are considered like bootlegs, threads have been frozen and/or dropped by the powers that be discussing such things.

 
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