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 Posted:   Sep 23, 2008 - 7:42 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

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 Posted:   Sep 23, 2008 - 9:16 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

oh, and don't forget... if you like the videos, please rate them or even subscribe to be instantly notified of new clips!

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2008 - 1:03 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

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 Posted:   Sep 24, 2008 - 2:56 AM   
 By:   DavidCorkum   (Member)

The biggest problem this film had was that it pretty much forgot that it was sci-fi. After the characters arrived at the middle ages, it just became a period adventure film. Goldsmith's score utilizes a tick-tock clock motive that not only represents the time-travel situation, but also reminds the viewer that the characters are finding it strange to be where they are - that everything is a little bit Twilight Zone-ish to them. It's a subtle motive that doesn't resort to weird sci-fi electronics, but it corrected a serious flaw in the film's atmosphere. Without it the scenario becomes too ordinary - the characters seem more like they're inconvenienced by their situation, rather than people stuck in the wrong time.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2008 - 5:50 AM   
 By:   panavision   (Member)

All look and sound great with Goldsmith's music. Great job Mutant!

I really don't like Richard Donner for doing what he did.

After Goldsmith won the Oscar for music for Donner's THE OMEN, you'd think the word "loyalty" and "appreciation" and actions of "going to the mat" and "making it work" might have entered Donner's brain. What a way to be treated just before your passing.

Dick

Donner. His loss.


Woah. We don't know the actual circumstances that led to the uncompromising decision and, remember, Donner hated the experience too.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2008 - 8:07 AM   
 By:   Amer Zahid   (Member)

I love the rooftop sequence the music just works wonderfuly. The whole mood of the film becomes different and enjoyable. If only a special edition version of this film with an alternate sound mix featuring Goldsmiths music should be issued some day..I hope!

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2008 - 9:12 AM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

casting was also quite... mmmm... odd. The girl is SO annoying!

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2008 - 11:36 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

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 Posted:   Sep 24, 2008 - 12:18 PM   
 By:   Rnelson   (Member)

I'm enjoying these clips very much. I think the Goldsmith score provided some much needed atmospheric and dramatic coherence to the whole movie. Looking forward to seeing/hearing more. Thanks for the effort.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2008 - 3:18 PM   
 By:   spielboy   (Member)

when you have all the film re-tracked just let me know, please! smile

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2008 - 4:12 PM   
 By:   vinylscrubber   (Member)

This thread has prompted me to pull this out after several months, and, GOD, this is really good Goldsmith. I have to believe the cut that had this behind it was previewed to a bunch of dolts, and that the studio (if not Donner) should someday consider a special edition of the original cut with Goldsmith's score.

 
 Posted:   Sep 24, 2008 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

That's great! I'm glad you're enjoying them and revisiting the score now with the film in mind. It's one thing to hear his music on it's own, but you really get a better sense of his intentions and feelings about the characters through seeing it and hearing it on screen.

Next up is the romantic cue "Move On" with Marek and Claire's love theme in full force. I'm trying to balance the action clips with the quieter moments as well. I am always fascinated with how Jerry masterfully scores dialogue. Should be online tonight!

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2008 - 9:39 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

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 Posted:   Sep 25, 2008 - 11:34 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

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 Posted:   Sep 25, 2008 - 1:31 PM   
 By:   Tom Servo   (Member)

This thread has prompted me to pull this out after several months, and, GOD, this is really good Goldsmith. I have to believe the cut that had this behind it was previewed to a bunch of dolts, and that the studio (if not Donner) should someday consider a special edition of the original cut with Goldsmith's score.

Based on reports from everyone involved in the production, it was not a case of anyone being unhappy with the score, but the film, probably because it was terrible, kept getting cut, re-cut and cut some more, until Jerry's music couldn't fit into any of the sequences that remained in their final shape and length and by that time, Jerry had moved to a different project and was most likely far too ill to keep plugging away at changing his cues around further.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2008 - 1:45 PM   
 By:   Francis   (Member)

Seeing these clips I really wish there was a theatrical release with the Goldsmith cues. I think this music is worth being heard in the theatre.

Regarding the quality of the movie; to me it didn't feel like the characters were in the past, but rather in a forest where actors with cliché and mint midevil clothing were parading around. There are some good sequences, but I can't see how this could have been saved in post production anyway.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2008 - 1:49 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

That seems to be the case from my research.
There are many sequences that don't fit the music anymore, especially in the areas where they flash back to the future. It seems many of those were juggled around. Also, the first arrival and attack was re-edited . The lengthy final battle is mostly intact, but again, there was a flash-forward scene between the scientists arguing that was removed and throws it off in sections. The opening (the dig) was also re-shot and a few scenes involving Walker and Connely were moved around.

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2008 - 10:43 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

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This clip did require a small edit in Jerry's music. (due to a deleted shot) I had to cut a few bars out of the score and do a little patchwork. The end result was definitely worth it.

 
 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2008 - 11:22 PM   
 By:   zooba   (Member)

New Clip online!

After Him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3Iz6VAMhLw


This clip did require a small edit in Jerry's music. (due to a deleted shot) I had to cut a few bars out of the score and do a little patchwork. The end result was definitely worth it.


Donner should have hired MUTANT to music edit the picture.

Great job MUT!

 
 Posted:   Sep 25, 2008 - 11:33 PM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

New Clip online!

After Him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3Iz6VAMhLw


This clip did require a small edit in Jerry's music. (due to a deleted shot) I had to cut a few bars out of the score and do a little patchwork. The end result was definitely worth it.


Donner should have hired MUTANT to music edit the picture.

Great job MUT!


Thanks Zoob! I would have done it for free too! He could have saved the production a bunch of money! wink

Any moment now my newest clip will be up: The Mural

 
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