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 Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 10:27 PM   
 By:   Steve Johnson   (Member)

I agree with you here on virtually every argument you attempt to make.

It also has a very weak Williams score. I sold mine 4 years ago, and do not regret it one bit.

 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 10:37 PM   
 By:   Josh   (Member)

I love this score! It features what I consider to be the textbook example of the classic 70s disaster movie theme, plus lots of deliciously schmaltzy muzak, and those unsettling earthquake sound effects thrown in for good measure (perhaps a bit more unsettling for me than for many others, since I've experienced more than my fair share of earthquakes in real life). Although I dig the Varese CD as is, I'd buy a complete score release in a heartbeat!

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 10:41 PM   
 By:   philip*eric   (Member)

I am not a big fan of EARTHQUAKE but in its day in SENSURROUND, it was actually a lot of fun - way campy but it had its moments...I really enjoy the John Williams score.

I also wonder why so much is being made about the small age difference between Greene and Gardner. Greene was, by then, reduced to always playing fathers and he did not really seem too young to be Ava's dad. There are many, many examples of this kind of casting too young actors as parents of a star- i.e. Susan Hayward and Jo Van Fleet as daughter and mother in ILL CRY TOMORROW - a three year age difference

 
 Posted:   Apr 22, 2009 - 10:59 PM   
 By:   workingwithknives   (Member)

But hey, there's a Genevieve Bujold titty scene so the film shouldn't be written off as a total loss.

razz

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2009 - 8:49 AM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

I also wonder why so much is being made about the small age difference between Greene and Gardner.

Probably because it just seems to stick out more since Ava herself at that point tended to look her age a lot more.

Of course there are to be fair, other examples where we seemingly don't care like Angela Lansbury just one year older than Laurence Harvey as his mother in "The Manchurian Candidate" or Cary Grant one year *older* then Jessie Royce Landis, his mother in "North By Northwest".

But Gabriel Dell, 27 years older than Victoria Principal, as her brother is an even stranger conceit this film sets up. As mentioned it seems more like a TV movie of the week than a true cinematic epic taking advantage of the medium.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2009 - 8:58 AM   
 By:   Pete Apruzzese   (Member)

As mentioned it seems more like a TV movie of the week than a true cinematic epic taking advantage of the medium.

Watching it on TV, it really looks like any Universal TV production from the 70s: Columbo, et al. They *mastered* the art of flat, featureless lighting for both their TV shows and feature films.

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2009 - 9:10 AM   
 By:   Scott McOldsmith   (Member)

I loved this score for a long time. It was similar to The Towering Inferno in some of the themes, and when I got the FSM TTI CD, I didn't need Earthquake anymore.

The "elevator with animated blood" sequence is laughable and horribly fake. So fake that when it was shown on TV recently, that bit was actually edited out! Was it really deemed too graphic for US TV? You've gotta be kidding me.

Obe scene was ALMOST amazingly distrubing: the middle-age mom in the moo-moo who got a face full of falling glass. She turned around and showed us her face with bloody shards sticking out, while she stumbled around yelling "oh...oh GOD!"

What totally ruins it is that a second before the glass hits, you can see an already placed shard protruding from her forehead, even though we see her from the back. What could have been gut wrenching is made horrible due to some of the sloppiest filmmaking for a major studio release I've ever seen.

For all of Irwin Allen's faults (he ruined his own genre with The Swarm and everything after), he wrongly gets credited for this film in many reference materials. No need to give him brickbats for a work he didn't do, he has enough of his own failures (and successes).

Yeah, the movie did just sort of "end". I see the need to not wait for the last half hour to give us the quake, but these damned disaster films were so overly padded with the "flashing out" or badly realized "characters" that it was usually a chore to sit through them. The Towering Inferno was the biggest of the disaster films and should have been the last.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2009 - 9:11 AM   
 By:   ahem   (Member)

As mentioned it seems more like a TV movie of the week than a true cinematic epic taking advantage of the medium.

Watching it on TV, it really looks like any Universal TV production from the 70s: Columbo, et al. They *mastered* the art of flat, featureless lighting for both their TV shows and feature films.


Towering Inferno is the same, as well as a lot of Disney movies from that period too. The tired old remains of the old studio system.

I agree that Mark Robson was no John Guillerman.

Albert Whitlock's matte paintings from Earthquake are spectacular (shame that the miniatures supervised by Clifford Stine etc were amateurish in quality), as is William's score. Shame that every thing else (Genevive Bujold aside) is Z rate, IMHO. Let's not even mention the animated blood.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2009 - 2:30 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Albert Whitlock's matte paintings from Earthquake are spectacular (shame that the miniatures supervised by Clifford Stine etc were amateurish in quality), as is William's score. Shame that every thing else (Genevive Bujold aside) is Z rate, IMHO. Let's not even mention the animated blood.

I was actually impressed by the miniatures in the flooding sequence. The scale felt right.

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2009 - 2:59 PM   
 By:   Eric Paddon   (Member)

Watching it on TV, it really looks like any Universal TV production from the 70s: Columbo, et al.

Not that there's anything wrong with Universal TV productions of the 70s, which were actually some of the most fun programs to watch. It's just that you don't want to see TV production values on the big-screen.

I didn't care for Bujold at all. I've never found her particularly attractive, but that's just my subjective view.

 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2009 - 4:37 PM   
 By:   cirtap   (Member)

As mentioned it seems more like a TV movie of the week than a true cinematic epic taking advantage of the medium.

Watching it on TV, it really looks like any Universal TV production from the 70s: Columbo, et al. They *mastered* the art of flat, featureless lighting for both their TV shows and feature films.


Towering Inferno is the same, as well as a lot of Disney movies from that period too. The tired old remains of the old studio system.

I agree that Mark Robson was no John Guillerman.

Albert Whitlock's matte paintings from Earthquake are spectacular (shame that the miniatures supervised by Clifford Stine etc were amateurish in quality), as is William's score. Shame that every thing else (Genevive Bujold aside) is Z rate, IMHO. Let's not even mention the animated blood.





John Guillerman got credit for directing only the NON-ACTION sequences of The Towering Inferno. ON the backstory of The Towering Inferno, Irwin Allen had to go to Guillerman to move FASTER, and keep his camera moving. Remember there was 4 Filming Units going on at the same time. John Guillerman only directed the Actors standing around doing NOTHING, and he had to be coached doing that by Allen.

I remember reading Guillerman was very reluctant taking on King Kong, because he thought Dino De Larentis was going to do him the same way Allen did him. Shovel him to the side.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2009 - 11:10 PM   
 By:   philip*eric   (Member)

I also wonder why so much is being made about the small age difference between Greene and Gardner.

Probably because it just seems to stick out more since Ava herself at that point tended to look her age a lot more.

I see what you mean but Ava was 52 and Chuck was 51, so they made a believable married couple IMO - they had played opposite each other a decade earlier in 55 DAYS AT PEKING. Lorne Greene was 59 and as I said , he often played father to actors not young enough to actually been fathered by him.

I also thought that the scenes in the sewer system were credible/exciting and that Heston's final scene trying to save Gardner's life was a bold way to end a disaster film.

Of course there are to be fair, other examples where we seemingly don't care like Angela Lansbury just one year older than Laurence Harvey as his mother in "The Manchurian Candidate" or Cary Grant one year *older* then Jessie Royce Landis, his mother in "North By Northwest".

But Gabriel Dell, 27 years older than Victoria Principal, as her brother is an even stranger conceit this film sets up. As mentioned it seems more like a TV movie of the week than a true cinematic epic taking advantage of the medium.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2009 - 11:13 PM   
 By:   philip*eric   (Member)

I also wonder why so much is being made about the small age difference between Greene and Gardner.

Probably because it just seems to stick out more since Ava herself at that point tended to look her age a lot more.



I see what you mean but Ava was about 52 and Chuck was 51, so they made a believable married couple IMO - they had played opposite each other a decade earlier in 55 DAYS AT PEKING. Lorne Greene was 59 and as I said , he often played father to actors not young enough to actually been fathered by him.

I also thought that the scenes in the sewer system were credible/exciting and that Heston's final scene trying to save Gardner's life was a bold way to end a disaster film.

 
 
 Posted:   Apr 23, 2009 - 11:23 PM   
 By:   Bach-Choi   (Member)

Not sure where it is in the film, but the cue called "Watching and Waiting" on the soundtrack is really very cool, interesting combining of instrumental colors: vibes, marimba, harp, piano, claves and strings.

 
 
 Posted:   Feb 28, 2010 - 9:06 AM   
 By:   Willgoldnewtonbarrygrusin   (Member)

Does it make sense to buy this CD on eBay - or does anybody know if the score is going to be re-released by FSM, Intrada, Varese etc. this year?

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2010 - 2:04 PM   
 By:   jackfu   (Member)

I am not a big fan of EARTHQUAKE but in its day in SENSURROUND, it was actually a lot of fun - way campy but it had its moments...I really enjoy the John Williams score.

Loved cueing up the earthquake effect at the start (just after the birds chirping) cranking up the volume of my Hafler pre-amp/amp combo, watching the four 12" woofers of my AR-9's oscillate, hearing the windows rattle. Not quite Sensurround, but close! Still love this score!

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2010 - 3:06 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I can never forget the opening lines in Earthquake -

Remy Graff: Goddammit!

Stuart Graff: Your last words last night, the very first words you greet me with this morning.

What a blast, eh?

About the music. I always appreciated it. But there is one thing. As with so much purported original motion picture soundtrack reportage, I've always thought the LP main title version was lighter in tone than that found in the actual movie, which has a deeper bass 'ring' to it. They are different, methinks. Yes, its about time the EXPANDED version came along.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2010 - 3:39 PM   
 By:   Ed Nassour   (Member)

I can never forget the opening lines in Earthquake -

Remy Graff: Goddammit!

Stuart Graff: Your last words last night, the very first words you greet me with this morning.

What a blast, eh?

About the music. I always appreciated it. But there is one thing. As with so much purported original motion picture soundtrack reportage, I've always thought the LP main title version was lighter in tone than that found in the actual movie, which has a deeper bass 'ring' to it. They are different, methinks. Yes, its about time the EXPANDED version came along.


I'm pretty sure the album was a rescore job. And with a smaller-sized orchestra. The original session didn't have that many players to begin with.

The biggest orchestra I ever saw assembled on the Universal scoring stage was for "Ghost Story." They even fired up the old Robert Morton pipe organ. I believe for that session there were well over 80 musicians crammed onto the stage. Terrific score by Philippe Sarde. It was conducted by Peter Knight. I sat in on that one. The soundtrack LP and later CD are right off the original session. Of all the albums I've listened to recorded on the Universal scoring stage after its acoustic were diminished from a very bad 1967 remodel, that one sounds the best.

Mentioning Sensurround reminds me of the day I sat in when scenes from "Rollercoaster" were being shown to a group of visiting Japanese entertainment execs. I sat at the console with Dick Stumpf, co-creator of the process. All of a sudden, Lew Wasserman jumped up, ran back to the console where we were seated and started yelling at us to turn down the Sensurround, that it was way too loud. He used rather colorful language. After he returned to his seat I looked over a Dick and both of us started to laugh!

 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2010 - 3:57 PM   
 By:   Grecchus   (Member)

I'm pretty sure the album was a rescore job. And with a smaller-sized orchestra. The original session didn't have that many players to begin with.

That's an interesting comment. Presumably, when an orchestra got to score a film under contract they would, in addition to what ended up in the film, do the other takes that invariably ended up in the album but were not in the film. It makes sense for the players to do this for extra supplemental income, especially when union rules are writ large.

 
 
 Posted:   Jul 9, 2010 - 4:06 PM   
 By:   Ed Nassour   (Member)

I'm pretty sure the album was a rescore job. And with a smaller-sized orchestra. The original session didn't have that many players to begin with.

That's an interesting comment. Presumably, when an orchestra got to score a film under contract they would, in addition to what ended up in the film, do the other takes that invariably ended up in the album but were not in the film. It makes sense for the players to do this for extra supplemental income, especially when union rules are writ large.


Sometimes. But on many occasions to save the studio a buck they would do the album version with a reduced orchestra. Sometimes they'd be done on the very same stage as the soundtrack was done. But on many other occasions the studio would book an independent recording studio.

With Tiomkin's LP version of "The Old Man and the Sea," they recorded it using a much smaller orchestra than heard on the soundtrack on a smaller stage adjacent to the WB scoring stage. Warner Brothers did lots of albums on that smaller stage.

 
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