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This is a comments thread about FSM CD: The Satan Bug: Archival Edition
 
 Posted:   Oct 20, 2016 - 8:02 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

Just opened this one and I am loving it.

Anyone who like PLANET OF THE APES will like this. Call it "proto-POTA" if you must, it has many of the sounds and feels of his writing that would come in the first APES movie.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2016 - 5:28 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I always like it when this film and its score are mentioned. It enables me to give unalloyed praise to a Jerry Goldsmith score and makes me feel as if I fit in here smile .

If you're inclined to but never have, I'd suggest you read the book - it's startlingly different to the film that we know so well.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2016 - 5:58 AM   
 By:   Thgil   (Member)

I'm really irritated with myself for not getting a copy of this one during FSM's most recent sale. Hopefully it'll hold on long enough to make it to the next one.

Then again, who am I kidding? I've still got the last three discs of Ben-Hur to listen to. And Poltergeist. And Black Sunday. And the other, non FSM, CDs I still haven't gotten to. I'm swamped!

 
 Posted:   Oct 21, 2016 - 8:27 AM   
 By:   Juanki   (Member)

I always avoided this cd because the "Archival Edition" thing. Do you think we will ever see a clean release of this score?

 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2016 - 9:08 AM   
 By:   PollyAnna   (Member)

Seminal movie and score. Goldsmith's 60's work is so diverse and groundbreaking. The Satan Bug is an amazing piece of work and this edition is not in any way diminished by a few sound effects.

 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2016 - 10:02 AM   
 By:   Jeff Bond   (Member)

Remember too that quite a lot of the score IS "clean" and in absolutely terrific sound. Believe me, when Lukas told me that the tapes we recovered didn't contain the main title or any of the action cues it was one of the biggest heartbreaks I've ever had. But at least some of the score was preserved and the action material is an outstanding example of how well Goldsmith's music works alongside the sound effects of the day.

 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2016 - 11:16 AM   
 By:   RoryR   (Member)

Just opened this one and I am loving it.

Anyone who like PLANET OF THE APES will like this. Call it "proto-POTA" if you must, it has many of the sounds and feels of his writing that would come in the first APES movie.


From the Jerry Goldsmith cookbook:

Take a half ounce of THE SATAN BUG, half a cup of SHOCK TREATMENT, and a spoonful of SECONDS, and add a pinch of FREUD, shake well and bake in an oven for two thousand years, and you get PLANET OF THE APES. Enjoy!

 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2016 - 11:36 AM   
 By:   The Mutant   (Member)

Indeed, Jeff. The way he wrote around or built up to sfx, explosions, etc. was genius.

 
 Posted:   Oct 22, 2016 - 6:04 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

I always avoided this cd because the "Archival Edition" thing. Do you think we will ever see a clean release of this score?

Don't wait until you're a pile of bleached bones for that holy grail of your, Juanki.

This is no "taped off TV" release. I'm VERY glad I bypassed any reservations and got it.

 
 Posted:   May 15, 2020 - 7:05 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

A coincidence that this film about a deadly virus was released 55 years ago, TO... THE.... YEAR???

I don't think so.

big grin big grin

 
 
 Posted:   May 15, 2020 - 8:31 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

A coincidence that this film about a deadly virus was released 55 years ago, TO... THE.... YEAR???

I don't think so.

big grin big grin


Make that 56.

Principal photography for … and post-production on … The Satan Bug must have been transpiring during early 1964 (January through April) because Goldsmith's recording sessions were held in May '64. The picture seems to have sat 'in the can' for around 12 months before its eventual distribution.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2020 - 6:20 PM   
 By:   Sir David of Garland   (Member)

A coincidence that this film about a deadly virus was released 55 years ago, TO... THE.... YEAR???

I don't think so.

big grin big grin


Make that 56.

Principal photography for … and post-production on … The Satan Bug must have been transpiring during early 1964 (January through April) because Goldsmith's recording sessions were held in May '64. The picture seems to have sat 'in the can' for around 12 months before its eventual distribution.


....eventual distribution at EGG-ZACKLY the 55 year mark. Coincidence? Ho, ho, ho, you might not think so, but my nerd-y sense is tingling! big grin

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2020 - 7:06 PM   
 By:   Viscount Bark   (Member)

If you all want to see a COVID-relevant movie from the 1960s try "What's So Bad About Feeling Good?" It contains:

* a virus that's in the air and can be transferred by close face contact
* The populace of NYC walking around everywhere with face masks
* Government and science experts on TV advising citizens
* One expert (played by Dom DeLuise) who claims the virus is a Red China plot(!)
* "Be Safe" signs erected all over the city
* Worries that revenue from sales tax on alcohol and cigarettes will be lost

This film is not a serious drama though - it's a very broad satire: the "virus" is spread by a rare toucan that causes depressed/angry/nihilist people to suddenly become optimistic and cheery!

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2020 - 7:34 PM   
 By:   Chris Malone   (Member)

How intrusive are the sound effects on the listening experience here? I haven’t got this album myself. I guess I’m also thinking more broadly whether having the music with FX is better than nothing or not? What says you?

Chris

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2020 - 7:46 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

What says you?
Chris


Wot sez me?

Zardoz speaks to you:

The Satan Bug is good!

Buy it … or forever be an aimless Vortex-hopping stonehead.

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2020 - 8:39 PM   
 By:   GoblinScore   (Member)

How intrusive are the sound effects on the listening experience here? I haven’t got this album myself. I guess I’m also thinking more broadly whether having the music with FX is better than nothing or not? What says you?

Chris


I dunno - I'd say yes. But I'm a Goldsmith lunatic.
75% is great - but gawd, those intrusive helicopters on the action laden 3rd act....

More hit than miss?
The package is classy as hell, so there's that.
The M&E cues arent unlistenable but they will take you out.

What's you level of JG-fanatism, Chris? Gage it that way.

 
 Posted:   May 22, 2020 - 9:23 PM   
 By:   Viscount Bark   (Member)

How intrusive are the sound effects on the listening experience here? I haven’t got this album myself. I guess I’m also thinking more broadly whether having the music with FX is better than nothing or not? What says you?

Chris


The sound fx are squeezed out as well as possible - I personally don't find what's left of them intrusive. It's a oft-played Goldsmith CD on me ol' Victrola.

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2020 - 9:55 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)


....eventual distribution at EGG-ZACKLY the 55 year mark. Coincidence? Ho, ho, ho, you might not think so, but my nerd-y sense is tingling! big grin


Depends where you were, eh? West Germany got it before New York.

[from IMDB]
Release Dates
West Germany 26 March 1965
USA 14 April 1965 (New York City, New York)
Japan 18 April 1965
Finland 30 April 1965
UK 6 May 1965 (London)
France 12 May 1965
Norway 14 May 1965
South Africa 26 May 1965 (Johannesburg)
Austria June 1965
Denmark 28 June 1965
Sweden 14 July 1965
Spain 1 November 1965 (Madrid)
Mexico 9 December 1965

 
 
 Posted:   May 22, 2020 - 10:07 PM   
 By:   ZardozSpeaks   (Member)

If it was 45 years ago, I could see that number being linked to a president.

45 years ago, Jeannot Szwarc's Bug was released ... without any Satan.

 
 
 Posted:   May 23, 2020 - 4:13 AM   
 By:   Graham Watt   (Member)

How intrusive are the sound effects on the listening experience here? I haven’t got this album myself. I guess I’m also thinking more broadly whether having the music with FX is better than nothing or not? What says you?

Chris


Chris, the general consensus is that the sound effects actually begin to work as part of the overall sound design, once you get used to them. They almost become integral to the musical experience. That's the general consensus.

My personal feeling is that they are grating. No matter how much I want to veil my words I actually do get that "taped off the TV" feel. "Better than nothing?" you ask. Of course! It's a great score! If somebody said to me, "I'll take the CD off your hands and give you nothing in return", I'd be a fool to say yeah okay.

I think you'd be some kind of nutmeg not to get it while you have the chance.

 
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