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 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 10:40 AM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)

I do think the sound is a lot better, but that's me - not sure how others will feel, but the samples should tell you something, even though they're mp3s - the finished master sounds great to my ears, another top-notch job by James Nelson.

I don't necessarily buy every John Barry re-issue that turns up but there was never any doubt about this one. A terrific score for a wonderful film that was sadly overlooked by many on its release.

Incidentally, bass guitarist Ron Prentice's diary reveals he played on the soundtrack of The Whisperers in September 1966 - the film appears to have been released almost a year later!


Geoff,

I seem to recall reading, and I'm sure you can confirm this, that Barry wrote the music for THE WHISPERERS before they finished filming and Bryan Forbes edited the film to the score. Or am I mistaken? It might explain why the score was recorded in 1966 and why so much of the music on the original LP (and now CD) release is not in the final film.

James

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 10:42 AM   
 By:   James MacMillan   (Member)

What's with the "Original M-G-M Soundtrack" lead-in? I thought these were both United Artists Pictures... (?)

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 10:50 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Mono? Mono? As in monothematic - you surely cannot mean mono sound - both scores are in glorious stereophonic sound.

Surely you can't mean monothematic either. The Whisperers score plays with three major themes: the Whisperers theme, the "Nobody And Nothing" theme and the "Attack" theme.

Incidentally, Pete, yes, I also recall it being said that The Whisperers was recorded before the film, one of the rare occasions where this has happened. That said, I'm sure it wouldn't have taken a year to shoot, so there does seem to be something that held up the process.

Can I just say one thing though: do your numbers have to be quite so limited? Your titles tend to sell out real quick and I'd hate to miss out on a future release like this.

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)



Incidentally, Pete, yes, I also recall it being said that The Whisperers was recorded before the film, one of the rare occasions where this has happened. That said, I'm sure it wouldn't have taken a year to shoot, so there does seem to be something that held up the process.


Cheers


Pete????

Who's Pete??

James

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 10:58 AM   
 By:   shureman   (Member)

What's with the "Original M-G-M Soundtrack" lead-in? I thought these were both United Artists Pictures... (?)

M-G-M owns the old U.A. soundtrack catalogue -- and films, for that matter...

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 11:00 AM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Sorry James. Just my sneaky way of making it so the thread keeps getting bumped. Well, not really.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 1:16 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

I do think the sound is a lot better, but that's me - not sure how others will feel, but the samples should tell you something, even though they're mp3s - the finished master sounds great to my ears, another top-notch job by James Nelson.

I don't necessarily buy every John Barry re-issue that turns up but there was never any doubt about this one. A terrific score for a wonderful film that was sadly overlooked by many on its release.

Incidentally, bass guitarist Ron Prentice's diary reveals he played on the soundtrack of The Whisperers in September 1966 - the film appears to have been released almost a year later!


Geoff,

I seem to recall reading, and I'm sure you can confirm this, that Barry wrote the music for THE WHISPERERS before they finished filming and Bryan Forbes edited the film to the score. Or am I mistaken? It might explain why the score was recorded in 1966 and why so much of the music on the original LP (and now CD) release is not in the final film.

James


This is all gone into in the liner notes in detail - you can read them in advance on the site.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 1:18 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

What's with the "Original M-G-M Soundtrack" lead-in? I thought these were both United Artists Pictures... (?)

That wording is a contractual requirement when licensing from MGM - they own the UA Catalog and that's what they want.

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 1:19 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Mono? Mono? As in monothematic - you surely cannot mean mono sound - both scores are in glorious stereophonic sound.

Surely you can't mean monothematic either. The Whisperers score plays with three major themes: the Whisperers theme, the "Nobody And Nothing" theme and the "Attack" theme.

Incidentally, Pete, yes, I also recall it being said that The Whisperers was recorded before the film, one of the rare occasions where this has happened. That said, I'm sure it wouldn't have taken a year to shoot, so there does seem to be something that held up the process.

Can I just say one thing though: do your numbers have to be quite so limited? Your titles tend to sell out real quick and I'd hate to miss out on a future release like this.

Cheers


Because doing two scores on one CD is already way too expensive - and to up the number of copies makes it even more expensive. I do these two-fers occasionally to give value for money but there is very little profit in them when the licensing fee in essence doubles.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 3:11 PM   
 By:   Stephen Woolston   (Member)

Fair enough. I just hope I don't miss any future Barry titles!

Cheers

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 3:20 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Fair enough. I just hope I don't miss any future Barry titles!

Cheers


The Knack is coming - not from us, though. I tried, but it had been snapped up already smile

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 4:21 PM   
 By:   Urs Lesse   (Member)

Wow, this thread has stayed on #2 without a bump for one hour big grin

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 4:55 PM   
 By:   RM Eastman   (Member)

Love both scores, glad the dialogue was removed- ORDERED! Kritzerland releases some really superb film music. Thanks, Bruce

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 5:17 PM   
 By:   Bond1965   (Member)



This is all gone into in the liner notes in detail - you can read them in advance on the site.


I knew I read it somewhere. Turns out it was the original LP's liner notes!

James

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 5:53 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)



This is all gone into in the liner notes in detail - you can read them in advance on the site.


I knew I read it somewhere. Turns out it was the original LP's liner notes!

James


Exactly. I used that section of Forbes' notes because he wrote it so eloquently.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 6:02 PM   
 By:   Geoffers   (Member)



This is all gone into in the liner notes in detail - you can read them in advance on the site.


I knew I read it somewhere. Turns out it was the original LP's liner notes!

James


Oh yes, I was aware of Forbes' quite unique approach to the scoring, it was just the long delay between recording and the release of the film that surprised me. Forbes doesn't comment about it in either of his biographies.

Ron Prentice was back in the studio with Barry within a month for the recording of The Quiller Memorandum. On this occasion the film was released about a month later. He also played on The Chase and You Only Live Twice (eight sessions!) at around this time, so was evidently a favourite of fixer Sid Margo.

 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 9:10 PM   
 By:   BasilFSM   (Member)

If only my darn credit card would arrive in the mail already - this wait is killing me! Hehe.

I'll definitely buy this. Not sure about now or later at this point in time, though. Lovely music!

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 18, 2010 - 11:12 PM   
 By:   haineshisway   (Member)

Not moving quite as fast as A Bridge Too Far, but pretty well, I must say. Less than 250 left now.

 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2010 - 12:01 AM   
 By:   shicorp   (Member)

I think there wasn't that high demand for "The Whisperers" (compared to "A Bridge Too Far" I mean) - and I got a mint copy of "Equus" not too long ago for a bargain. The former release of "Equus" ist more or less out of question, though. The monolog/dialog tracks make it impossible to listen to. Many thanks for this release. Ordered!

I wonder if there will be any bonuses on "The Knack"...

 
 
 Posted:   Oct 19, 2010 - 1:13 AM   
 By:   Peter Greenhill   (Member)

In March 1966, Barry said that 'The Whisperers' was his only film commitment for that year as he wanted to concentrate on composing the stage musical version of 'Brighton Rock' to be directed by Joseph Losey.

When 'Brighton Rock collapsed, he took on 'The Quiller Memorandum'

 
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