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 Posted:   Jun 19, 2002 - 3:51 PM   
 By:   JeffBond   (Member)

Here's a note from FSM's own Doug Adams:

"Allow me to butt in with my unrequested comments:

The sandpeople music at the moment you're discussing contains very high
violin portamentos (sliding the finger up and down the high E string from the
sound), basses and celli playing col legno battuto, and roto-toms and log
drums soloing over low French horns, trombones, and piano.

That's the music that's heard as the sandperson climbs atop the bantha. It's
entirely possible that the violin slides could be mistaken as being
electronic, because either by design or by accident, they're completely out
of sync with one another. (Hey, it probably the hardest cue to play cleanly
in the score.) But rest assured, all sounds are acoustic in origin.

I will now return to skulking anonymously around the board.

-Doug Adams

 
 
 Posted:   Jun 19, 2002 - 3:54 PM   
 By:   JeffBond   (Member)

Also, re: Planet of the Apes--making an acoustic sound "echo" with an echoplex is not electronic music in my opinion--you have to generate the SOUND electronically. Apes is an acoustic score, as advertised.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2005 - 4:40 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Nevermind this STAR WARS/electronic ordeal. That's for another thread.

I relistened to MINORITY REPORT yesterday.

It's actually a rather complex score that needs to grow on you. Except the "Anderton Escapes" showpiece and arguably "Sean's theme", there aren't many in-your-face adventure licks here. Either subdued or progressive and sinister. A great film noir score, in many ways. The music for the robot spiders is particularly chilling.

It's like the flip-side of A.I.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2005 - 5:16 PM   
 By:   Chris Irving   (Member)

I often enjoy listening to A.I. and Minority Report back-to-back. Great new territory for Williams. No wonder he'd rather do Memoirs rather than Potter 4 (though it would be wonderful). He "been there, done that" countless times and I'm sure he wants a creative change.

 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2005 - 6:22 PM   
 By:   DeviantMan   (Member)

Star Wars: A New Hope (I HATE calling it that)

Off topic, but I hate this title too. Would anyone have gone to see this film if it was originally released as A NEW HOPE?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 24, 2005 - 10:15 PM   
 By:   dalekmindprobe   (Member)

Minority Report: Not exactly new material for Williams if you're familar with Lost in Space, Poseidon Adventure, and Black Sunday. A great score and contains many wonderful Williams' characteristics.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2005 - 12:17 AM   
 By:   David Coscina   (Member)

Wow, this thread has been resurrected after a long while. But it's fitting as I think Williams will revisit this style for WOTW. And I cannot wait. This, aside from Shore's King Kong is at the top of my list of most anticipated scores for 2005.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2005 - 10:38 AM   
 By:   Fernando Gimenez   (Member)

I can surely appreciate Williams' mastery in Minority Report (a Revell a Beltrami or a Debney could never compose anything remotely like this) but , IMHO that doesn't make it a great album or music that I like.
Minority report just goes the same road Williams has taken for adventure/fantasy/action films of lately. To me they all sound like another take on Jurassic Park action music, i.e, dull and uninspired music. Williams on auto pilot, IMHO (I repeat).
On the other hand when Williams is writing for dramas or comedy this days (not so often as desired) he seems more inspired, more comfortable with the material, and thus we have music that shines (Sabrina, Sleepers, Seven years in Tibet, The terminal).
Except for A.I which was a more adult fantasy movie than say the Potter scores, Williams' music for the adventure genre is subpar when compared to things like E.T, Jaws and The Indy Jones and Star Wars scores. Those scores were full of memorable themes and motifs and an evident joy in the part of the maestro while scoring. I konw many of you loved Williams¡ lastest Potter but to me it sounded the same old tired way.
And speaking of the new Star Wars scores, they are the perfect example of a Williams on auto pilot. I became a film music aficionado while listening to the Empire strikes back score. If I were a kid now hearing Attack of the clones (apt title, by the way) would surely make nothing to me (What? Would I be whistling Jango's escape?).
Just my two cents. Feel free to comment on my thoughts, that's wha this board is for

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 25, 2005 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   Chris Irving   (Member)

Well, Fernando, I don't think that he's lost his touch when it comes to themes or action music for adventure films. Though I love those earlier thematically rich works of his as well , I find his new action work to show a refinement of years and a mature decision to use interesting motifs rather than larger themes at every turn - the Jango music included.

Not everything has to be hummable to be enjoyed, and, indeed, I'm sure it is not his intention to make everything a tune the audience can carry away with them, but to support the scene effectively and interestingly (which I think he does).

Cheers!

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2006 - 10:11 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Re-listening to this right now. Anyone else notice how the intro of "Eye-Dentiscan" resembles the quirky villain march in SUPERMAN?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2006 - 12:41 PM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

This is one of my most least listened to Williams scores. I'm a big fan of the theme that hits you over the head and says "I'M A THEME" kinda music.

Do you have to be a student of music to enjoy this score or can anyone pick up on its idea??

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2006 - 12:42 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

This is one of my most least listened to Williams scores. I'm a big fan of the theme that hits you over the head and says "I'M A THEME" kinda music.

Sure, a striking theme is nice, but only for so long. There are some wonderful subtle things going on here (besides, "Sean's theme" IS pretty strong!).

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2006 - 12:45 PM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)

What time is it in your part of the world right now Thor??

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2006 - 12:49 PM   
 By:   Rick15   (Member)



(besides, "Sean's theme" IS pretty strong!).


Like I said - I haven't listened to it very much so I probably didn't pick that up.

I like the first couple of minutes to 'Anderton's Great Escape' though.

I'm trying to listen more to scores that I havn't given much time to, to see if I can get more out of them. This is one of those such scores that I have in mind.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2006 - 1:20 PM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)

I like Minority Report a lot. Sean's Theme (the most accessible part of it) is probably the weakest part of it for me. Anderson's Great Escape would be on any action music compilation I would put together.

Spielberg describes it as a "black and white" score. I can see what he means.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2006 - 1:56 PM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

What time is it in your part of the world right now Thor??

Right now, it's approximately 5 o'clock in the afternoon (is that AM or PM? I never get that right).

NP: FIRST KNIGHT (Goldsmith)

 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2006 - 5:06 PM   
 By:   Olivier   (Member)

Re-listening to this right now. Anyone else notice how the intro of "Eye-Dentiscan" resembles the quirky villain march in SUPERMAN?

Sure did, the first time around.
wink

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 11, 2006 - 7:24 PM   
 By:   SPQR   (Member)

Haven't listened to it in ages. No incentive.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2006 - 6:58 AM   
 By:   Tall Guy   (Member)


(is that AM or PM? I never get that right).


Thor - it goes in alphabetical order. You'll never get it mixed up again, now.

C

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 12, 2006 - 9:22 AM   
 By:   Thor   (Member)

Thor - it goes in alphabetical order. You'll never get it mixed up again, now.

Huh?

 
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