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Wow. Ragnarok I loved! First Thor movie where I liked more than just Loki!
And Age of Ultron was kind of a mess like Captain America: Civil War, but there are some really strong elements in both...
Yavar
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For Ragnarok, it was just so different tonally than the rest of the series. At it was a tone I don't particularly care for. I like the serious stuff, like seeing Tony Stark traumatized by the events of Avengers 1, or like Bruce Banner's issues controlling the Hulk.
In Ragnarok and Capatin Marvel, 2 different characters lose an eye and both just shrug it off. I always think, "If the characters don't care, why would I?"
The Thor movies were never all that serious to begin with. Ragnarok just took that silly and dialed it up to 11.
Ragnarok was the Thor movie for people who hated Thor movies. (Including the director.)
As for the person who lost an eye in Cap Marvel, he didn't shrug it off. He was in denial and figured it would get better.
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Mar 27, 2019 - 8:54 AM
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The Mutant
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And that makes 11. Going to get the soundtrack tonight. 
Ok Jeyl, there’s one part of the film that confuses me and since you are obviously very familiar with it, let me ask you:
SPOILERS!!!
So, they established early on that she has these powers yet they can be taken away at any time via that device on her neck.
We later see Jude Law fulfill that threat by activating it which somehow suppresses her powers.
Then, she goes into that supreme intelligence matrix and confronts it, realizes she’s been lied to and tears the thing off and finally unleashes her full powers.
My question is this: how was it so easily removed? Like, she just peeled it off like a band-aid.
Also it’s kind of confusing because when she removed it, it was essentially in her mind - she wasn’t actually doing it. She was mind-melding with the supreme intelligence or whatever in like a matrix, right?
Then she “wakes up” and breaks out of the machine and saves the day.
All of that kinda went over my head. It just seemed like it should have been more challenging to remove that device.
They set up that it actually works and can subdue her in that scene with evil Jude Law. So why could she just remove it so easily? Was she actually removing it? Was it symbolic??
Again, I liked the movie but this scene confused the hell out of me.
Anyone?
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Mar 27, 2019 - 9:38 AM
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ryanpaquet
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*****SPOLIERS*******
So, they established early on that she has these powers yet they can be taken away at any time via that device on her neck. We later see Jude Law fulfill that threat by activating it which somehow suppresses her powers. Then, she goes into that supreme intelligence matrix and confronts it, realizes she’s been lied to and tears the thing off and finally unleashes her full powers.
My question is this: how was it so easily removed? Like, she just peeled it off like a band-aid.
Also it’s kind of confusing because when she removed it, it was essentially in her mind - she wasn’t actually doing it. She was mind-melding with the supreme intelligence or whatever in like a matrix, right?
Then she “wakes up” and breaks out of the machine and saves the day.
I found these little blurbs - there's nothing really explaining if there was anything preventing her from being able to remove it herself:
Here's a Wiki entry for the Device, known as a Photon Inhibitor:
https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Photon_Inhibitor
The Photon Inhibitor was a device used by the Kree to control the cosmic powers of Vers. Later, it was destroyed by Captain Marvel once she realized that it was suppressing the true capabilities of her cosmic powers. The Photon Inhibitor was able to limit the amount of energy Captain Marvel's could emit and even revoke this power entirely. The device could also limit Danvers' physical abilities such as her strength and durability due to the fact that they are directly proportional to how much cosmic energy Danvers produces.
https://www.refinery29.com/en-ca/2019/03/226482/what-are-captain-marvel-powers-abilities
"Captain Marvel’s powers get supercharged when she removes the inhibitor on her neck, ostensibly keeping her vast powers in control. Once that is removed, following a revelatory moment with Mar-Vell, a.k.a. The Supreme Intelligence, a.k.a. Annette Bening, Carol’s powers get taken to the next level, and she essentially becomes the Binary iteration of herself from the comics. Essentially, she becomes unstoppable.".
*****SPOLIERS*******
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*****SPOLIERS*******
I think she was supposed to realize tapping into her humanity was the greatest power of all (or something like that) and that was key to removing the device. It simply wasn't explained so we're just speculating based on what the threadbare dialogue and story elements were trying to tell us.
It's amazing to me we have at our fingertips an entire library of film history to look to for guidance, and the basics of storytelling are still missed. In big-budget Hollywood movies where you'd think it'd never be missed.
*****SPOLIERS*******
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There's a Shirley Walker award? That's awesome. (Kinda dusty in here...)
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