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It seems that the old (over 16.5 years ago now!) LLL expansion of Extreme Prejudice may not have been fully complete after all.... Intrada just announced a 2 CD set!
http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8749
Presumably the original album will be included as well. I've had many people tell me they preferred the way that played to the LLL release, so I guess it's good that Jerry's original preferred album will be represented too.
This has never been a favorite of mine to be honest, but since Intrada has an important history with the score and it's been over 16 years since the last time it got released, I'm very glad they are revisiting it now, over 34 years after they put out the original album with Jerry, back in their infancy! Perhaps as with the 2 CD Quartet Records edition of Total Recall, I will finally after many years click with this score which so many of my fellow fans seem to love more than I do...
Yavar
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It seems that the old (over 16.5 years ago now!) LLL expansion of Extreme Prejudice may not have been fully complete after all.... Intrada just announced a 2 CD set!
http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=8749
Presumably the original album will be included as well. I've had many people tell me they preferred the way that played to the LLL release, so I guess it's good that Jerry's original preferred album will be represented too.
This has never been a favorite of mine to be honest, but since Intrada has an important history with the score and it's been over 16 years since the last time it got released, I'm very glad they are revisiting it now, over 34 years after they put out the original album with Jerry, back in their infancy! Perhaps as with the 2 CD Quartet Records edition of Total Recall, I will finally after many years click with this score which so many of my fellow fans seem to love more than I do...
Yavar
Soundtrack sense tingling: I predict that you will come to love this driving, muscular, powerful score.
I've got some errands to run (on foot) and I'll be playing this one the whole way for the massive amount of forward momentum in it.
Oh, and FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC news from Intrada.
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I want to write a poem for Yavar that incorporates titles from Jerry Goldsmith scores.
Lonely Are the Brave, Shamus
The Public Eye that sees One Little Indian...
Don't give up your day job just yet.
On the other hand, I completely share your enthusiasm. This is an unparalleled epoch for Goldsmith fans.
Haha. I was just being silly, not really thinking about it but dashing off a little bit. Maybe I should've added an emoticon. :b That said, I am very impressed by Jurassic's poetic tribute to my love of Jerry's music. (Sorry for not saying so sooner, J -- I've had a swamped couple of months and kinda forgot about this thread.)
Soundtrack sense tingling: I predict that you will come to love this driving, muscular, powerful score.
I don't know that I'm quite there yet, but Intrada pulling out all the later synth re-scores into a separate section really did wonders for Jerry's original work. And also the Soundtrack Spotlight episode that my colleagues Jens and David did with Doug Fake and John Takis really turned out great, and has definitely been helping me click with the score more. I really love Cash's Theme and how it develops throughout the score, and I appreciate the score's architecture a lot more now, in large part thanks to the podcast ep:
https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/8913325-odyssey-soundtrack-spotlight-extreme-prejudice-1987
Oh, and FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC news from Intrada.
Speaking of which, it doesn't get much more FAN-FREAKING-TASTIC than this news:
1) Intrada began a Kickstarter over two weeks ago, to record the remaining two totally unreleased Jerry Goldsmith scores heard in theaters, BLACK PATCH and THE MAN.
2) The campaign amazingly hit 50% funding just after the 24 hour mark, and passed 100% funding before the halfway mark (15 days). It's gonna happen! Next year we will have a great sounding album of William Stromberg conducting the Royal Scottish National Orchestra in two otherwise-lost wonderful Goldsmith scores!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/129145902/black-patch-the-man-jerry-goldsmith-new-recording
What a wonderful way to follow up their great run of five Goldsmith film score premieres over the past year or so.
Yavar
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And the Goldsmith deluge continues...I had written:
"Love Field (Varese / Orion-->?) -- This was a substantially rejected score, with cues appearing in the film and not on the album, and vice versa. Check out this tantalizing thread at the Intrada forum where both Roger and Doug chime in about what unreleased riches might be found. At the bottom of this thread I also post a complete official cue list, which seems to confirm some music being left off both the film and the album: http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7704&sid=e4b531e2d606fba6d95926ce131a1d8e"
We now know just how much Goldsmith score was missing: almost half! Premiering on Varese's new Deluxe Edition are over 26 minutes of new score which do a great job of fleshing out this lovely work (the original album was a particularly paltry 28.5 minutes and felt very disjointed IMO). 10.5 of those minutes are just the cue "Lost Luggage" (which actually was not on the original album at all -- the cue titled that on the old album is correctly labeled "The Accident" here), one of Goldsmith's longest cues which goes from delicacy to thrilling action and everything in between. There's also a ton of variety in the rest of the previously unreleased cues, and I for one am even glad the 17 minutes of Bill Payne solo piano replacement score is included. It's lovely stuff and plays well as a "bonus album" at the end of the 55 minute Goldsmith score, kinda like how on the recent CaboBlanco the source music suite plays well as its own follow-up album after the Goldsmith score program.
Yavar
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Is there currently a list of remaining Goldsmith scores to expand? I am particularly interested in the modern (post 1980) scores: Leviathan, Rudy, Medicine Man, The 13th Warrior.
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It’s in the first post of this thread, and since I did them in reverse chronological order — just start at the top! But be warned: most of the remaining post-1980 scores can only come from one label: Varese Sarabande. That said, they’ve certainly picked up the pace on expanding those this year, with no less than four (Looney Tunes, Along Came a Spider, Lionheart, and Love Field).
Yavar
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So I'm still not going to remove Legend from the first post, but I'm going to have to write a new description... I had written,
"Legend -- How much more music is there missing?
http://www.figmentfly.com/legend/music4.html (link provided to me in this board thread: http://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=93939&forumID=1&archive=0 )
Sadly, according to James Fitzpatrick, the expanded Silva release of this score was done from the only surviving tape in good quality, and he is completely uninterested in producing a new Legend recording. Therefore as with Link the unmentionable with poor sound will forever be the only source for those missing cues."
But BEHOLD: https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=145592&forumID=1&archive=0
Goodness did I turn out to be wrong on that last sentence! According to liner notes writer Jeff Bond on Facebook,
"One of the few enjoyable aspects of my summer after our move was working on this new release of Jerry Goldsmith's magnificent Legend score for Laurent LaFarge and Music Box Records. Douglass Fake miraculously dug up an additional three minutes of the score that hasn't been heard and a few other tidbits (including a brief but gripping, Final Conflict-like choral cue) in good sound make this a pivotal release."
It's actually just over four minutes (two cues) added to the main program, plus a couple of alternates added to disc 2 (in addition to the original album program being reprised, which also includes a different version of The Unicorns from the 90s Silva expansion). Essentially Doug Fake has generously done the same thing he did earlier this year for Varese on Lionheart and helped another label out by adding a couple extra cues that we fans otherwise would not have gotten -- and this time in amazing sound! (Just listen to the clip on the Music Box site.)
This thing really came out of the blue...what a year it has been for Goldsmith fans!
Yavar
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Time to bump this thread!
Last December Intrada unveiled a whopping 4 CD set for Masada, the definitive release of the score, featuring previously unreleased film cues/alternates from both Goldsmith and Stevens on the third disc, and a remastered/fixed version of the 37 minute LP recording on the fourth disc.
And though we've known about it for a few months now, in light of Intrada's successful late 2021 Kickstarter to newly record two otherwise-lost Goldsmith scores, it feels time for me to remove them from the first post given that their release on album is imminent. I had written,
"Black Patch -- Jerry's very first feature score is presumed lost, which would necessitate a new recording. Thankfully Intrada expressed some interest in doing this with Face of a Fugitive, in this poll thread here:
http://www.intrada.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=7967&sid=71cefdfe9201afaeb42dc1fb038c2d75
I did write "Advance Liner Notes" for this title as with Face of a Fugitive, including a complete breakdown of the score in-film. At the bottom of this thread I also appended the official cue titles which I discovered later:
https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=119663&forumID=1&archive=0
The Man (ABC, but Paramount theatrically elsewhere) -- Though tapes are reputed to be lost, perhaps we can get Tadlow's James Fitzpatrick (or Luc of Prometheus) to consider funding a new recording of this brief score (less than 15 minutes in the film), as filler for a new recording of a longer score. I watched the film recently and did a complete score breakdown, complete with detailed track by track notes, here: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=113568&archive=0"
I'm glad to see/hear a happy ending for both of these fine scores, since the original recordings appear to be lost forever. Therefore since we now will have complete versions of each score (even if the film recordings under Jerry's baton still haven't been released) I am removing them from the list just as I did QBVII and The Salamander.
Hard to believe we are coming up on the 10 year anniversary of this thread, on July 29 2022. I think when we reach that point I should do a tally of every Goldsmith score which received a complete/definitive edition during the past decade!
Yavar
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If I remember... Mom and dad save the world misses +-30 minutes...
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Wish list for Jerry Goldsmith
Seconds (original)
Hour of the Gun (original)
The Chairman (original)
The Last Run (original)
The Other
MacArthur (original)
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Quartet Records announces SECONDS on CD and LP!
https://quartetrecords.com/product/seconds/
Chris Malone is a magician. I’ve heard the new master (we will be recording a Soundtrack Spotlight for The Goldsmith Odyssey soon) and it’s like he somehow took an audio eraser and *vanished* the dialogue bleed (and some glaring source music bleed at the beginning of one score cue). I don’t know how he did it but when you A/B compare with the dialogue bleed tracks from the LLL you will be amazed too.
Goldsmith's score is a masterwork and so is the film, probably one of the three greatest he ever scored.
Yavar
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I had written,
"Matinee (Varese / Universal) -- A Goldsmith/Dante collaboration that isn't as popular as it should be. It would be great to get an official expanded release of this in good sound."
But it turned out I was wrong in my assumption that Varese held the title in perpetuity! Intrada is releasing a definitive edition of the final Goldsmith/Dante score awaiting expansion at the end of this month:
https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=147810&forumID=1&archive=0
Expect a very special Goldsmith Odyssey Soundtrack Spotlight -- soon.
Yavar
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Don't know what exactly you're complaining about Basil. Matinee has never been expanded before.
And I'll be surprised if it ever is again. Maybe the most popular Goldsmith scores like Star Trek and Alien and such will get revisited someday in hi res, but I'll bet you $100 that 90% (likely more) of his output never makes it past normal CD/lossless quality (16 bit is enough for most folks...and when it comes to many modern scores recorded digitally, they may not even exist in higher quality).
Yavar
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That's a good question. I would have said Varese, but then they released the original versions of the previous two Goldsmith/Verhoeven collaborations (Total Recall and Basic Instinct), yet Quartet Records released the definitive complete editions (well, Prometheus got there first on Basic Instinct with an *almost* definitive expanded edition). So...maybe Quartet?
Yavar
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I think this one is going to require a re-recording...and the written score sheets do survive in the Herrick library, which cooperated with Intrada on Black Patch!