On Tuesday, April 2nd 2019, I did my Captain Marvel Burn™ in order to break two of my personal theater going records. The showings were 11:00am, 1:15pm, 4:10pm and 7:15pm. These four viewings would bring my total viewing of Captain Marvel from 11 to 15. Keep in mind that I paid for each showing on the fly and not before just to make sure the timing was right. No pre-purchases. So when I get my tickets, I know what the seat assignments look like for each one.
11:00am was pretty empty, both in chairs and seat selection. 1:15pm, same story. 4:10pm was when people started to show up. Seats still looked occupied compared to the seat selection. 7:15pm was almost full in seat selections. And going into the theater to watch the movie, it looked just like the assignments.
Someone should tweet this at Giacchino so he can bat it down definitively. If it merely gets laughed off by people in the know, there will be space for trolls to keep claiming it's true.
The obsessive need some people have to discredit this film and the women associated with it is mind-boggling. It’s a huge financial success worldwide. One of the biggest superhero films ever.
...or it's the obsessive need to think critically and not just believe the crap shoved into their mouths. I witnessed first hand a theater with rows sold out as we chose our tickets (seats were reserve only where I went and we had to pick from a chart, like a concert) but when my wife and I got to the showing...both rows were empty (over 30 people). No one showed up. Fishy? Yep, to anyone who isn't an NPC.
Box office trutherism has to be one of the weirdest things I’ve encountered online. As if a massive publicly traded company would want to risk something like this by artificially inflating profits. And “NPC”? Lord, might as well call us sheeple.
Glad to see Giacchino batting this stupid rumor down. I’m sure his union would have had a lot to say if he wrote the entire score and received no credit.
There has been stories like this circulating throughout film score history. Cliff Eidelman's score for Star Trek 6 was subject to similar rumours that he was in over his head and the bulk of the work was finished by orchestrators.
As others have stated in this thread, and from Gia himself, there are teams responsible for getting any film score finished. The idea of the lone composer toiling away in a dark room is a romanticized notion. Even classical composers had students/assistants that helped with copying parts, score prep and even orchestration (Shostakovich often derided Prokofiev for not orchestrating his own works).
These kind of stories have been "enjoyed" by male composers for decades so it's only natural that women who are landing higher profile assignments are falling prey to the same rumour mills. doesn't make it right but it seems to be the way it goes.....
Indeed. Danny Elfman didn't write any of Batman, I seem to remember. At most he whistled it and soneone else wrote it all down. Shirley Walker presumably.
Indeed. Danny Elfman didn't write any of Batman, I seem to remember. At most he whistled it and soneone else wrote it all down. Shirley Walker presumably.
Basically, yes. As I understand it, that's still his arrangement with Shirley Walker to this very day.
So I’m to believe the positive response to this score is actually due to Disney plants and that no one has actually seen the film because sold out shows everywhere are just empty auditoriums?
Indeed. Danny Elfman didn't write any of Batman, I seem to remember. At most he whistled it and soneone else wrote it all down. Shirley Walker presumably.
This has been debunked so many times.
Here's an excerpt from an interview with Shirley Walker where she debunks such rumors. "In terms of working with Danny Elfman, how did you perceive the criticism that he wasn't responsible for writing his own music? Steve Bartek has said that he got winks and nudges meaning "we know you really write the music". Has that happened to you?
Shirley: I think Danny's fans know by now that he writes his own music. At the time I worked with him, it was more his envious peers who delighted in keeping alive the notion that he couldn't write. Unfortunately, perception frequently outweighs truth."
Nearly 30 years later and people are still debating this.
There’s no debate. It’s just an unfair charge that I believe prevented Elfman from being seriously considered for an Oscar for Batman back in early 1990. I believe the charge had its roots in another studio’s efforts to promote someone else in that category, though not necessarily the winner. Since then the Academy has never taken him seriously which is unusual because pop artists writing scores usually are treated more favorably, especially when they’re commercially successful as Elfman clearly has been.
So I’m to believe the positive response to this score is actually due to Disney plants and that no one has actually seen the film because sold out shows everywhere are just empty auditoriums?
Someone would get the truth out about this...
Exactly. They’re called “exhibitors” and they tend to report their sales on a weekly basis.
Seriously these kinds of conspiracy theories don’t reflect well on the people spreading them. There are hundreds of exhibition companies in thousands of territories. There’s no way any single American company can push a button and get the results they’d prefer. Otherwise “John Carter” would have been a smash hit.
