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 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 2:29 PM   
 By:   Mathias78   (Member)

Aside from maybe arranging the score in chronological order, is there a lot of music missing from the Varese album, which I agree is excellent? However, if there is a decent amount of music missing, I wouldn't mind an expanded Merlin as that's probably my favorite of Mr. Jones' repertoire.

Off the top of my head... There are some great variations of Jones' "Arthur Theme" missing on the album. I always wanted to have Arthur's return to Camelot. A great peace of music!

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 2:46 PM   
 By:   edern   (Member)

I always wanted to have Arthur's return to Camelot. A great peace of music!

Yup! There is also the joust sequence, which is a reprise of the "battle theme" with a medieval-styled flute on top of it : https://youtu.be/UpAcztfmZUY?t=2h7m23s

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 2:58 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Hi MV,
Appreciate the fact that you answer all the questions!
Have you tried releasing Marc Shaiman's SOUTH PARK: BIGGER, LONGER AND UNCUT?
Thanks


Yes, but Trey and Matt shot it down

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 3:00 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

Dick York or Dick Sargent?


Hey, who doesn't love Dick? The more Dick the merrier! Never ask us to choose between the two Dicks!

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 3:01 PM   
 By:   La La Land Records   (Member)

MV, HEAT (1995) is it possible? Complete score and some songs?

This got a "Probably not" earlier in the thread among some other WB titles. Too much bad blood there, I think.


Bad blood? What happened?

I have a question for MV (although I think I know the answer already) - are there any plans for/any chance of any expanded James Bond scores at all? The 2003 releases were stellar, but we know there's room for improvement over a decade later in terms of sequencing and extra material. And, of course, we've had a bunch of new films since then. Is this something that is even possible to release?

Thank you in advance.


Addressed Bond earlier -- we'd be honored to do any of them.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 3:22 PM   
 By:   SBD   (Member)

Hi MV,
Appreciate the fact that you answer all the questions!
Have you tried releasing Marc Shaiman's SOUTH PARK: BIGGER, LONGER AND UNCUT?
Thanks


Yes, but Trey and Matt shot it down


So asking about an extended TEAM AMERICA featuring Shaiman's rejected score would be fruitless, then?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 3:37 PM   
 By:   kam   (Member)

Any hope for Elmer Bernstein's unused 2001 Rat Race score? Or any other unused scores in the pipeline?

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 7:15 PM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)



The score for "300" plagiarized Goldenthal's "Titus." Goldenthal pressed the matter. Warner Bros. eventually announced they'd "amicably resolved" the issue, but they were not happy about it.

It is my understanding that "Batman Forever" was releasable, whereas "Batman & Robin" is not, because Atlantic Records owned the soundtrack rights to the former while the latter has never been released at all and therefore the rights remain held by Warner Bros. Pictures (as opposed to Warner Bros. Records, which is no longer in any way related to the studio of the same name). Given that, I'm not really sure why other Warner Bros. pictures that had soundtrack releases couldn't be similarly expanded, but then each contract is different.


Batman Forever came out because it was already approved. When the Warner/Goldenthal thing went down the way it did it pretty much put the red light on anything of his that wasn't already approved to be released.

Unless certain management changes there it will remain that way.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 8:32 PM   
 By:   BrianPGH   (Member)

What about the release of the Wonder Woman TV Series soundtrack set ?

I'm very curious about this one too. The comment about being done with comic titles until 2018 made me a little nervous.

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 8:39 PM   
 By:   Justin Boggan   (Member)

Dick York or Dick Sargent?


Hey, who doesn't love Dick? The more Dick the merrier! Never ask us to choose between the two Dicks!


Whoa, whoa, whoa -- don't get cocky.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 9:03 PM   
 By:   BrianPGH   (Member)

Dick York or Dick Sargent?


Hey, who doesn't love Dick? The more Dick the merrier! Never ask us to choose between the two Dicks!


Whoa, whoa, whoa -- don't get cocky.



You guys are nuts.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 9:56 PM   
 By:   Glissolia   (Member)

The score for "300" plagiarized Goldenthal's "Titus." Goldenthal pressed the matter. Warner Bros. eventually announced they'd "amicably resolved" the issue, but they were not happy about it.

I see. But how do those two scores affect LLL releasing more Goldenthal stuff?

 
 Posted:   Mar 21, 2017 - 10:11 PM   
 By:   SchiffyM   (Member)

The score for "300" plagiarized Goldenthal's "Titus." Goldenthal pressed the matter. Warner Bros. eventually announced they'd "amicably resolved" the issue, but they were not happy about it.

I see. But how do those two scores affect LLL releasing more Goldenthal stuff?


Just that most of Goldenthal's higher profile films were scored for Warner Bros. So if they won't play ball – and it's been implied that they won't – that's the problem.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 2:12 AM   
 By:   Randy Watson   (Member)

With Heat not possible, how about the other Goldenthal/Mann collaboration Public Enemies?

And John Murphy's score for Mann's Miami Vice?

Expanded Conspiracy Theory or Rob Roy by Burwell?

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 3:35 AM   
 By:   batman&robin   (Member)

I'll post the same question again in relation with the above post, because I simply don't get the attitude of some other collectors...

Why keep asking about expanded releases of scores greatly represented on CD already, when there is a huge amount of never before released stuff?!

If the available album has only one score track -- like for example THE FLINTSTONES -- then yes. But otherwise, please focus on the unreleased scores -- like for example THE JACKAL.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 3:40 AM   
 By:   Tango Urilla   (Member)

People ask for what they want. If there's a score that I don't care for that's never been released before in any shape or form, I'm not going to ask for it. Conversely, if there's a score that's received a 30-minute album in the past and that still has an hour and ten minutes of amazing never-before-released music, I'm going to ask for that. All there is to it really.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 3:57 AM   
 By:   Randy Watson   (Member)

I'll post the same question again in relation with the above post, because I simply don't get the attitude of some other collectors...

Why keep asking about expanded releases of scores greatly represented on CD already, when there is a huge amount of never before released stuff?!

If the available album has only one score track -- like for example THE FLINTSTONES -- then yes. But otherwise, please focus on the unreleased scores -- like for example THE JACKAL.


The Jackal is indeed higher on my wishlist than an expanded Conspiracy Theory or Rob Rob, but MV already said The Jackal might happen some day but not this year (or something like that)

 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 5:07 AM   
 By:   litefoot   (Member)

I'll post the same question again in relation with the above post, because I simply don't get the attitude of some other collectors...

Why keep asking about expanded releases of scores greatly represented on CD already, when there is a huge amount of never before released stuff?!

If the available album has only one score track -- like for example THE FLINTSTONES -- then yes. But otherwise, please focus on the unreleased scores -- like for example THE JACKAL.


MV spoke about this last year. He said:

"The ironic thing is people want stuff that hasn't been released yet those are the titles that have performed poorly for us over the last few years. Titles that are reissued or titles that are expanded over their previous releases tend to sell 2 - 3 times better than titles that have not been out before. What some people refuse to accept is a majority of the so-called Grail releases have been released over the past decade and there's really not much left in terms of Highly coveted titles that score collectors want. Oh, I am quite sure there are those that will argue that there are tons of golden age and Silver age scores to release. While those are some wonderful scores they would not sell nearly as well as those fans would hope. They would barely cover the cost of the actual production and at the end of the day, as I've stated many many times before, this is a business. You can't keep producing product that's just going to break even...you have to make some kind of profit. So, reissuing stuff that has been sold out is a pretty good idea, but it depends on what those titles are. We have done some in the past that performed very well and we have done some that performed poorly. Like with everything, it's a gamble."

That's why three of the six titles released by LLL in 2017 are reissues.

It's a depressing state of affairs but there you go. I've revised my list of what to expect in the future and the fact is that some new stuff simply wouldn't sell in sufficient quantities to be worthwhile. So for example, although He-Man sold by the truckload, I can't see LLL taking a chance on other 1980s cartoons that don't have as strong a nostalgia factor that He-Man does. I'm thinking Johnny Douglas's wonderful music for Dungeons and Dragons and 101 Shuki Levy scores.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 7:30 AM   
 By:   jwb   (Member)

Ghostbusters and GB2 were supposed to come out on Madison Gate during Sony's obsession with all things Ghostbusters. Initially we were going to do GB2, then in his excitement Mr Edelman spoke with a top exec at Sony who put the kibosh on LLL doing the project stating all things GB should be kept in house. Things might be different now. We'll see.

MV


Just proves my point that sometimes composers can be more trouble than they are worth being involved with projects.

 
 
 Posted:   Mar 22, 2017 - 8:41 AM   
 By:   Shock-Wave   (Member)

I'll post the same question again in relation with the above post, because I simply don't get the attitude of some other collectors...

Why keep asking about expanded releases of scores greatly represented on CD already, when there is a huge amount of never before released stuff?!

If the available album has only one score track -- like for example THE FLINTSTONES -- then yes. But otherwise, please focus on the unreleased scores -- like for example THE JACKAL.


Love Burwell's score to The Jackal. I believe MCA released the song album? I was hoping Varese would have released at least a 30 min score sdtk to the movie.

Also another favorite of mind is Burwell's score to Fear 1996. It has a great opening and (surprising) closing theme. No song end credits lol.

 
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