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I see you're a late seventies and a full eighties Goldsmith's aficionado.
*How* is that what you "see", when I didn't mention a single 80s score by name?
I named QBVII (1974) as what I considered to be his greatest work. That's not even "late seventies". My personal favorite Goldsmith feature score is Lonely Are the Brave, from 1962. And the other favorite from that decade which I named was Seconds, from 1966. My favorite single piece by Goldsmith might be The Artist Who Did Not Want to Paint, from 1965, though that's only a score to a short documentary rather than a full feature. So yeah...no idea why you concluded, based on what I wrote, that my preferred Goldsmith period was "late seventies and full eighties". I love *all* Goldsmith periods but if I somehow had to limit my access to a single decade of his output, I would almost certainly pick the sixties!
I ceased to be interested in at the start of the eighties but it's a question of a generation.
I find it such a shame when people of good taste choose to limit themselves, generationally. There is film music I love from all eras (admittedly less being produced for Hollywood blockbusters at the present time appeals to me than did even a couple decades ago, but one can still find very good music being written today if one goes more off the beaten path).
His western scores were not my first focus that's the reason why I am less enthusiastic about his "Dust" effort.
So you are so dismissive of it because of genre. I also find that to be a shame. I myself endeavor to be open to all genres.
By lazy, I mean, lazy atmosphere. "Dust" as a score works for the episode and I find it okay but not exciting.
Thanks for clarifying what you meant by "lazy" -- that indeed makes a lot more sense. But if you watch the episode you should realize that it is centered around a setting which could certainly not be described as anything better than "okay" (and probably considerably worse than that). There is literally nothing in this episode that would call for "exciting" musical support. What Jerry wrote for it was perfect for the episode's needs. I honestly cannot conceive of someone writing a more appropriate or effective musical score for it, however little enjoyment it may offer as pure music. It took a while to grow on me to be sure, but it certainly did do so.
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May 31, 2019 - 6:25 AM
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It's hilarious to me how easy it is to goad Yavar into delivering a lecture.
[member]: "[Brief, offhanded comment.]"
Yavar: "Yes; the critic will be an interpreter, if he chooses. He can pass from his synthetic impression of the work of art as a whole, to an analysis or exposition of the work itself, and in this lower sphere, as I hold it to be, there are many delightful things to be said and done. Yet his object will not always be to explain the work of art. He may seek rather to deepen its mystery, to raise round it, and round its maker, that mist of wonder which is dear to both gods and worshippers alike. But an appreciation of Goldsmith is the reward of consummate scholarship..."
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I wasn't going for a lecture (well, when it comes to his assumptions about my personal taste, I guess I was), but merely wanted to engage in conversation re: "Dust" since I strongly disagreed with his dismissive/negative judgement.
I'm happy if this thread is livened up by some spirited discussion and isn't just an announcement thread for podcast episodes.
Speaking of which, I'd love to know *your* thoughts on "Dust" now, Jens. 
Yavar
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Well, here we are three weeks after the last Goldsmith Odyssey episode. It's that time again...time to go "Back There":
http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/1305991-episode-20-the-twilight-zone-back-there-1961
This was a fun conclusion to our conversation with Tim Greiving. Looking forward to hearing anyone's thoughts, if they feel like sharing...earlier this month we already recorded our final outing on The Twilight Zone (until the 80s film, that is). Stay tuned for "The Invaders" dropping next month with not one but TWO very special guests who will be known to all here. And this time next week we plan to release the first part of my three and a half hour conversation with Robert Townson.
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Episode 20 - The Twilight Zone - Back There
https://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com/159614/1305991-episode-20-the-twilight-zone-back-there-1961
Show Notes
Suppose, just suppose, that a man living in the year 1961 were able to travel all the way back to the year 1865, arriving mere hours before President Lincoln's assassination. Would he be able to do anything to stop that tragic event? That's an intriguing question posted by "Back There," a second-season episode of The Twilight Zone.
Now suppose, just suppose, that four men (your humble hosts David, Yavar, and Clark, plus returning special guest Tim Greiving) living in the year 2019 were able to take a detailed look at that episode, paying particular attention to its creative, suspenseful Jerry Goldsmith score. Would they make any compelling discoveries? Would their opinions of the episode and its music differ significantly? Most importantly, would you enjoy listening to it? These are the intriguing questions presented by this installment of The Goldsmith Odyssey. To find the answers, press play.
Duration
01:20:42
Cues from "Back There":
0:12:50 - 01 - The Club
0:17:28 - 02 - The Discussion
0:18:34 - 03 - Table Talk
0:24:53 - 04 - Return to the Past (Blended tracks)
0:31:29 - 05 - Ford’s Theatre (Blended film source) (Blended tracks)
0:34:08 - 06 - Police Station
0:36:50 - 07 - Mr. Wellington
0:39:44 - 08 - The Wine
0:42:29 - 09 - The Prediction
0:48:55 - 10 - The Assassination
0:53:42 - 11 - The Homecoming
0:56:15 - 12 - Old William
1:19:06 - 10 - The Assassination
Other Sources:
0:06:13 - Thriller: The Cheaters cue 1. (Dirk Van Prinn)
0:06:24 - Thriller: The Poisoner - Suite (Reconstruction)
0:08:21 - Columbo: Ransom For A Dead Man (Billy Goldenberg)
0:38:15 - Star Trek: The Motion Picture: V’Ger Flyover
The Goldsmith Odyssey: All Episodes
http://goldsmithodyssey.buzzsprout.com
Contact The Goldsmith Odyssey
mail@goldsmithodyssey.com
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Jun 27, 2019 - 4:24 AM
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[updated]
Odyssey Interviews - Robert Townson Part 1
https://www.buzzsprout.com/159614/1301242
Duration
01:34:10
SHOW NOTES
Robert Townson, the prolific soundtrack producer who produced over 1400 releases over the course of his 30-plus years with film music label Varèse Sarabande, joins Yavar for a sprawling, candid conversation. In this first half, Townson talks about his start in the film music business, getting to know Jerry Goldsmith, working with Jerry on a variety of re-recordings, watching Jerry work under a tight deadline, Jerry’s friendships, and so much more! Enjoy, and stay tuned for part two of this can’t-miss discussion. This exciting release is (possibly) limited to the first 3,000 downloads, so click now!
Sources
00:00:00 - C2 Logo Fanfare (Goldsmith)
00:02:25 - Logan’s Run - The Monument (Goldsmith)
00:08:28 - The Final Conflict - The Hunt (Goldsmith)
00:15:06 - Lionheart - The Banner (Goldsmith)
00:27:35 - Total Recall - Rekall Commercial (Goldsmith)
00:33:29 - 2001: The Legendary Original Score - Moon Rocket Bus (Goldsmith conducting North)
00:39:43 - The Russia House - The Family Arrives (Goldsmith)
00:42:50 - Gremlins 2: The New Batch - Just You Wait (Goldsmith)
00:43:38 - S*P*Y*S - Main Title (Goldsmith)
00:56:34 - Tora! Tora! Tora! - Main Title (Goldsmith)
01:02:21 - The Illustrated Man - Main Title (Goldsmith)
01:05:19 - Damnation Alley - Main Title (Goldsmith)
01:08:44 - Patton - German Advance (Goldsmith)
01:11:26 - Out of Africa - I Had a Farm (Main Title) (McNeely conducting Barry)
01:14:52 - Air Force One - Mig Attack (McNeely)
01:18:59 - Air Force One - The Hijacking (Goldsmith)
01:23:12 - Mulan - Boo! (Goldsmith)
01:26:03 - Conan The Barbarian - Love Theme (Poledouris)
01:30:00 - Airplane! - Main Title (Bernstein)
01:30:53 - Music Box - Finale (Sarde)
01:32:31 - The Long, Hot Summer - Southern Belle (North)
01:33:38 - 1489 Words - Silence (Goldsmith)
Edited by Robert Townson and Jens.
Please send your correspondence to mail@goldsmithodyssey.com.
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Nice.
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oh dear...there was a Mike Ross Trevor interview published last year. Hopefully is he talking about LEGEND ?
With all respect to my colleague Jason Drury (and I make sure to give him a shout-out or two in my interview), our style and content at the Goldsmith Odyssey is very different from the show he did, which was more of a radio program with interview bits interspersed...over half his running time was made up of full music cues...maybe closer to three-quarters for part 2 of his interview with Mike Ross-Trevor. Give this one a listen and I think you'll find it a bit of a different experience, and of course much more focused on his relationship and work with Jerry Goldsmith in particular. Jason also didn't really ask him about certain projects important to us at The Goldsmith Odyssey (or if he did, it didn't make the final interview), such as Link, The Public Eye, and I think even The Mummy! This new interview is comprehensive about his memories relating to Jerry and his work with him over the years, and we also touch on different aspects of his pre-Legend recording career than Jason chose to focus on.
I'm looking forward to hearing what people think of our conversation.
Yavar
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