I agree. It happens on the beat. It may be a bell not an anvil but it is certainly intentional. There is no listing of the players in the booklets so I can't be sure what type of percussion it might be. To me it isn't high pitch enough to be an anvil but then I am not that familiar with the sound.
Doesn't sound like a "mis-strike" to me. It occurs right on the downbeat - a musical punctuation.
Do me a favor and have a listen to that section on headphones. It seems FAR more pronounced that way, for some reason. If you still can't hear what I mean... case closed.
Sounds like some sort of a tape "jump" to me - for the lack of a better description - it sure doesn't sound intentional. But I'm not concerned by it because it's such a tiny error.
Doesn't sound like a "mis-strike" to me. It occurs right on the downbeat - a musical punctuation.
Do me a favor and have a listen to that section on headphones. It seems FAR more pronounced that way, for some reason. If you still can't hear what I mean... case closed.
I did. And I’ve had the soundtrack on lp or cd since the ‘80s. It’s always sounded like that. Beyond that I can’t comment.
Doesn't sound like a "mis-strike" to me. It occurs right on the downbeat - a musical punctuation.
Do me a favor and have a listen to that section on headphones. It seems FAR more pronounced that way, for some reason. If you still can't hear what I mean... case closed.
Here's 3 very short clips from Basil to demonstrate what he's saying: original audio, original with slight edit so it sounds like a bell, and sample of bells later in cue.
Thanks to Last Child for posting this. The second example heard here is the exact same segment as the first and with nothing added... but a tiny piece of the "bleep" (as heard in the first example) has been cut. What's left sounds much more like a bell or chime than that beep, to my untrained ear.
That is SOOOOOOOOOOO OBVIOUS.....it's a note played on THE CHIMES! I have ALWAYS, ALWAYS heard this.... on the LP... on the original CD....and on this NEW release. Take it from someone who actually PLAYED the chimes in Symphonic Band.....it's the CHIMES!!!
If it's a bell, why did Williams instruct the player to muffle it right after striking it, making it sound like a recording glitch artifact? Or is that how that bell sounds?
I think it is a deliberately light blow so that it remains quite discreet despite the proximity of a microphone, or for musical reasons (to sound metalic / matt, not in a "church" or "religious" way). Maybe given at the top of a bell's tube, where it does not resonate, or, indeed, another percussion instrument (anvil?) recorded dry. In my ears it sounds dry but without looking like a defect, it is clearly metallic.
It doesn't sound anything like a mistake. Do you all not have anything better to do than to over analyze these releases to death?
Obviously it matters to whomever it matters to. Sounds very abrupt and un-musical to me when listening to the cue, so I'm simply chiming in (pun intended) with Basil, and we were trying to figure out what it was. Maybe our aural perception is different so it doesnt sound right. I'd hardly call it over-analyzing, but if it bothers you, just skip over it. Anyway, I prefer Basil's version of the bell.
It doesn't sound anything like a mistake. Do you all not have anything better to do than to over analyze these releases to death?
I don't get it either. There seems to be a contingent here determined to prove to us that this sound, which has for decades been part of the musical tapestry of this moment of the score, is some kind of overlooked glitch or sloppy bit of mastering. I honestly don't know what to say to that.
It doesn't sound anything like a mistake. Do you all not have anything better to do than to over analyze these releases to death?
I don't get it either. There seems to be a contingent here determined to prove to us that this sound, which has for decades been part of the musical tapestry of this moment of the score, is some kind of overlooked glitch or sloppy bit of mastering. I honestly don't know what to say to that.
I think you DID know what to say, since you just said it - dismissively. There's no "contingent" trying to prove anything - maybe two members trying to identify it. We're talking about something that, for all we know, only applies to our subjective ears.
I think you DID know what to say, since you just said it. There's no "contingent" trying to prove anything. We're talking about something that, for all we know, only applies to our subjective ears.
We're actually saying the same thing, though maybe I said it sloppily. We're hearing the same thing, and interpreting it differently. I don't know what words would change that.
As for "contingent," it seems to apply: "a group of people united by some common feature." And "C" is on triple-letter-score. 19 points!
As for "contingent," it seems to apply: "a group of people united by some common feature." And "C" is on triple-letter-score. 19 points!
In context, referring to Basil and myself in the third person as a some nebulous group is dismissive, especially as we're standing right in front you. Maybe not as insulting as the guy you quoted - "Do you all not have anything better to do than to over analyze these releases to death?" Next time I'll respond to you guys with "There are some nefarious naysayers here that would like to infringe on our free speech rights..."
